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[arch-general] Upstream bugs, patches
by Nagy Gabor 02 May '08

02 May '08

Hi! I'm new to this list, and my English is far from perfect, please tolerate it ;-) I am/was a big fan of ArchLinux, I'm using it from 0.5 version, I also made some little contributions to pacman, but now I noticed some tendencies which I cannot accept. So I would like to hear the official "standpoint" about a certain question, before I may drop my good old distro. I also think that this question is important to all end-users. (Aaron:) I know that I'm not popular here, but I hope that you won't answer "against me" ;-) Some foreword (sorry, maybe off, I would like to manipulate thoughts :-D): Basically I think that principles are _not_ rules. So things like KISS and "vanilla packages" are good for defining ourselves in one sentence (in wikipedia for example), but I don't really understand reasoning like "foo violates KISS" (IMHO the reasoning should say, _why_ it worth applying KISS here.). When I _describe_ myself as liberal, I won't deduce my acts from this "rule"... (theoretical example). So the question: Do/Should Archlinux packagers apply unofficial or merged-but-not-yet-released patches to fix an existing _bug_ of a released package? An example: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/5861 This is quite an old bug, and we are just waiting and waiting... If the answer no, do packagers forward the bug to the official developer or the end-user should forward his discovered bug? An other small example, which is much less important; but I think this belongs to the same "category", the reasoning is much more mysterious to me, since the "patch" clearly cannot break anything here: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/10307 This was closed 4 minutes after opening, so I couldnot discuss it (I wanted to revert my last sentence there, this is not true now, I didn't want to lie). Evince developers like that option, and they don't want to change it. (But I don't agree with them here, of course). I simply cannot imagine any reason for "won't fix" (apart from "lazyness" :-P). I'm pretty sure that "implementing" it has _no drawback_, and at least 6 users (from the number of requests) would like it. Again, it is a marginal issue (I put my evince.desktop to NoUpgrade of pacman), but I would like to understand the reason of close. Bye I hope, that I didn't hurt anybody, overall I think that AL is still one of best distros around, and I must say a big "thank you" for your work.

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[arch-general] Info for tellico users
by Attila 02 May '08

02 May '08

Hi, i recognized that libxslt makes the step to 1.1.23 but if you use tellico (http://periapsis.org/tellico/) than there could be a problem with it: http://www.periapsis.org/archives/2008/05/01/tellico_not_showing_most_value… See this please only as an information because it seems that at the moment the author of tellico don't know what is the reason (tellico or libxslt). See you, Attila

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[arch-general] test
by Eric 01 May '08

01 May '08

test -- Eric

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[arch-general] Rename 'unstable' to 'developing'
by gan lu 01 May '08

01 May '08

As we know, many packages saying even firefox or openoffice in unstable repo don't mean "unstable", instead, they are quite stable. The name of repo simply doesn't reflect the fact, so how about a rename? It's harmless and may even bring some good point, at least from a marketing point, it may courage more devs or TUs to follow the upstream developing and put more packages there, in return attract more people who are interested in the package to do more (testing) work, which can eventually make the package better quality. Just my 2 cents.

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[arch-general] Closing bugreports too fast?
by Gerhard Brauer 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

Hello, i thought about a "trap" in which myself are also fallen sometimes: I look at the bugtracker to see if someone filed already a bugreport for a problem. But i don't find it cause it is already fixed and thereby marked as closed. And without using advandced search functions all searches are only done on open bugreports. As an example the problem yesterday with kdelibs: In forum thread someone says: i write a bugreport (without posting the number ;-) It was #10312 tpowa provided a fixed package in a nice short time, quickly, and then closed the report (fixed). But users in the forum have had problems to find this report cause it was closed. If i look at the history of the report i see: Aaron reopened it, then we have user request for closing an Jan closed it finally again. On such reports (the maintainer knows that many users would/could have the problem, sometimes only during different mirror syncing) i would suggest **not** to close such a report too fast. Ok, it is fixed from developer side (and maybe available on ftp.archlinux.org) but users could run in the problem probably later or tommorrow. I see no problem with reports where the reporter says: ok, it worked, you could close it. And where the maintainer knows: it was maybe a local or a problem on a minor package. But in situations like above it would be helpfully if the report wasn't closed (as well it was fixed on developer side), but maybe in a status like: fixed, scheduled for closing. But the report is "open" and so found on searching. I don't know if the bugtracker have such a function to closed it automatically for ex. after 6 days. On the other hand the maintainer must do this (it's additional work, but i think it's worth). Regards Gerhard -- Don't drink and root!

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[arch-general] funny colors startx
by Eric Dan 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

seeing funny colors momentarily, when starting or shutting down an X session. X itself behaves normally after that. using: [GeForce Go 7400] and nvidia 169.12-2 my "uname -a": Linux dirac 2.6.24-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Mar 30 11:40:06 CEST 2008 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux any other users here having the same experience? Thank you -- Eric

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[arch-general] root CA certificates bundle
by Dimitrios Apostolou 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

Hello list, In the past I had set-up some software I use (mpop) to read the root CAs certificates from /usr/share/curl/curl-ca-bundle.crt but it seems that some update broke that. I could easily find an alternative, since many archlinux packages come with their own CA cert bundle but it reminded me I wanted to post about it... I think it would be better if archlinux had its own CA-certificate-bundle package, and all appropriate packages used that one. As a start we could use the file provided by curl or firefox, wrap it in its own package, and force its installation in every system. Of course this raises important issues concerning security, like how to distribute such a package since plain HTTP downloads (and without any signature verification) that pacman uses are insecure. The problem surely existed before, it's just that creating such a package mandates a solution. Nobody wants to have forged CA root certificates... Undoubtedly the safest is to include it once in the install CDs and never update it through the web, it seems pretty impossible though. So what do you think? Thanks, Dimitris

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[arch-general] Any place where changes in testing are announced?
by Peter Galiovsky 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

Hello, after doing a system upgrade after some months, I found out the hard way that the HAL support was removed from xorg-server. I wasted a full hour trying to get my keyboard layouts back before realizing my recreated policy file is fine, it is just not being used... Is there any place -- other than arch-dev-public which I do not read -- where changes in testing are announced and that could save me headaches like this? (Besides, I'm not using an US layout and had no issues with the Xkb configuration through HAL...) Thanks, :g

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[arch-general] new url for cvs.archlinux.org?
by Attila 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

Hi, i read the informations about the new abs and the step behind to svn again but i'm too silly to find where i can look for the changes of a package as before under cvs.archlinux.org. Can someone post the new link or is this still under development? See you, Attila

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[arch-general] KDE brokes after the upgrade of kdelibs
by 董剑宁 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

Hi, everyone. I upgrade kdelibs today(3.5.9-3-i686), then all the kde related applications cannot start. The error message is like this: konqueror: symbol lookup error: /opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZThn40_NK10KColorDrag6formatEi kmail: symbol lookup error: /opt/kde/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZThn40_NK10KColorDrag6formatEi ...etc. I use fvwm now, the non-kde-related applications works well, such as firefox, So I guess it is the new kdelibs' fault.

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[arch-general] Arch Linux presentation in free software events
by Hugo Doria 28 Apr '08

28 Apr '08

Last week we had a great Free Software event here in Brasi: The International Forum of Free Software (with nearly 8000 people). I had the pleasure of presenting (with Douglas Soares and Kessia Pinheiro) the Arch in a lecture. The lecture was very nice and the room was completely full. We managed to show very well the distribution and gain more new users for the Arch. We also had a stand to show the distro, take questions and install Arch for the users. The brazilian community is getting bigger and bigger everyday. =) Yesterday i did the same thing in another event: FLISOL (Festival of Latin American Free Software Installation). The result was awesome too. Photos can be found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hdoria/2434570553/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/hdoria/2446385279/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/hdoria/2447216974/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/fisl90/ And the presetation (in pt-br) here: http://hdoria.archlinux-br.org/palestras/fisl9.odp What i want to know is: Someone has made any presentation of Arch in events? How has been the receptivity of people? What you guys think about this? -- Hugo Doria http://hdoria.archlinux-br.org

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[arch-general] which forum to announce new AUR packages?
by David Rosenstrauch 27 Apr '08

27 Apr '08

Is there a section of the forum to announce new AUR packages? I saw a section to *request* them, but not one to announce. Should it get announced there? Or is announcing not really done anymore? (I recall it used to be done back when AUR was "incoming".) TIA, DR

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[arch-general] Can't see all of installation console
by gipper gipper 27 Apr '08

27 Apr '08

I'm able to boot the installation cd no problem. Everything looks fine. I can read the entire screen - for the boot prompt. At the boot prompt I type: arch As the kernel proceeds to load my video mode switches to an unusable mode. The boot process proceeds and, from what I can tell, drops me into the shell - as it should. However, I can't see the prompt - it's way below the bottom of my screen. The video mode is not the same as the boot CD or bios mode at powerup. For some reason the kernel decided to switch to some awful, unusable mode. I've tried every combination that I can think of at the boot prompt: - vga=normal - vga=ask (tried a bunch of these with and without "scan" option) still no luck. I haven't been able to find a combination that gets the console into a usable form. I'm trying this fresh install on a separate partition because I had done a pacman -Syu a week ago on a different partition (that I've used for years) and that kernel update (last week) proceeded to cause this same sort of crummy console behavior. On that partition I am able to login on the console and startx. However, the console is unusable itself. In the process of trying to fix that I thought that a fresh install on another partition would yield some clues. But, the fresh install can't even get into the /arch/setup step because I can't see the entire screen. So, what's changed in the kernel in the last few months that has caused my Diamond Viper V770 AGP RIVA TNT2 to not play with the kernel anymore? I expected a boot from an install CD to NOT have this problem. But it does. So, my old (trusty) Arch partition has a crummy console mode - but I can still get to X - but I'm annoyed at the crummy console video. And my test, new installation can't even really get going because I can't see the /arch/setup stuff in the crummy console mode. If I were new to Arch today, I'd be moving on, because I can't even see the installation screen in its entirety. But, for me, Arch is the only way to go - so I've gotta fix this. Do I have to roll my on kernel? ACK!!! I hope not. any ideas? TheGipp

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[arch-general] Arch64 specific mailing list?
by Grigorios Bouzakis 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

Hi, i am getting my new shinny Quad Core desktop machine tomorrow and i am thinking of running x86_64 on that machine. I never really did bother getting familiar with that part of Archlinux until now since i didnt have a reason to. Browsing the wiki and forum today made me realise that there is no x86_64 specific mailing list. There is only the arch-ports one but this one seems to be mostly PPC related. Is there any chance of having a seperate mailing list for x86_64 any time soon? Adding the i686 to the arch-general description too & even renaming the list to archlinux-i686 or similar would imho be great too since we all agree the x86_64 port is supported officially and is here to stay. Yes, i know it has been renamed not too long ago but i think its a good idea. Greg

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[arch-general] texlive (again?)
by Jan Spakula 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

Hello Archers, I want to bring up the TeX distributions issue. Current status: - tetex in extra: unmaintained (upstream) though still usable, some parts are already getting outdated (pdftex, some latex packages); - texlive in community: firmicus keeps it pretty up to date, the dist itself is actively developed. Proposal: Switch to texlive eventually officially (for now keeping tex-related pkgs in community). How it can be done: - from the dev side: 1) "officially" announce that the switch *is* going to happen. 2) move tetex and all packages depending on it from extra to community (that's only: kile, latex2html, lyx, texmacs) (the trouble is that these makedep on tetex: evince, kdegraphics, yodl; but maybe just keep tetex on the build machine for a time being?) - from TUs: 3) gradually replace tetex deps by texlive deps in community packages - from users: 4) gradually replace tetex deps in AUR by texlive Comments: - 3) and 4) don't need to happen instantly - we'll just have 2 tex dists at the same "level" in community for a while - note that none of the above programs link anything against tetex, they just need working tex compiler (which texlive definitely provides), so they don't even need to be recompiled - the official statement is important, so that we can nag maintainers to change dependencies ;) - there's been on/off-going discussion about this on the forums (http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=358172 - tomk has said "Regarding the possibility of bringing texlive into the official repos, there are currently two missing ingredients among the existing dev team: interest and time. AFAIK none of us is a habitual tex user, and that would be the first requirement." - so this proposal asks for the opposite: bring the so far official tetex down to community, to level it out with texlive and make the switch powered by the users possible.) What do *you* think? PS. Sorry for the long e-mail (about 15-times longer than I usually write). -- Jan Spakula

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[arch-general] cairo and cairo-lcd conflict preventing me from getting updates
by Alec Hussey 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hey everyone, Ive been kind of frustrated lately because I haven't been able to update any of my pacakges because of a conflict between cairo and cairo-lcd. Here is the output from pacman. [maddog39@desktop ~]$ sudo pacman -Syu :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... :: cairo conflicts with cairo-lcd. Remove cairo-lcd? [Y/n] n error: unresolvable package conflicts detected error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies) :: cairo: conflicts with cairo-lcd I obviously want to keep that package and I even entered it in pacman.conf under HoldPkg and seems to have no affect. I dont know what I should do. Thanks! Alec Hussey

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[arch-general] Launchpad.net
by A. Klitzing 22 Apr '08

22 Apr '08

Hi there, I registered "Arch Linux" to launchpad.net [1]. I like the idea of a corporate platform for linux distributions. I don't want to replace existing infrastructure (flyspray, ...). But it will help (me and some other, I think) to mark a bug to be presence in Arch, too. I used a lot of bugtrackers and the bugtracker of launchpad works very nice (even LP lacks flyspray-support at the moment [4]). Maybe someone wants to work with Arch and launchpad, too, like forwarding bugs to Arch if needed. I'm open to add people to that team [2] or give ownership to developers. Also I asked for Arch-Support on PPA [3]. But that will be a low priority. Best regards, André Klitzing [1] https://launchpad.net/archlinux [2] https://launchpad.net/~archlinux [3] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.cms.launchpad.user/3508 [4] https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/28738

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[arch-general] kernel26 2.6.25-1 enters [testing]
by Thomas Bächler 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

The new 2.6.25 kernel and most of the external modules are in [testing]. Changes: - Complete configuration overhaul - Removed phc patch - Removed mactel patch The removal of these patches was because a) there are no new patches available for 2.6.25 and b) I am trying to reduce the amount of patching, especially if it only benefits a few people or can be potentially dangerous. If there are any problems due to the configuration changes or new kernel bugs, please let me know. If you want to know more about the real changes, read here: http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_25 I didn't update any modules, so if there are new versions available for any, please inform their maintainers. The following modules are currently broken. I didn't do any research on those yet, so if anyone knows something, please let me know. - atl2 (Simo, could you have a look, you must probably update it) - catalyst - martian - openswan-klips - slmodem (USB symbols are now GPL only, this driver will never work again unless it's rewritten in userspace - is this only a USB driver or also a PCI driver?) I wish you all happy testing.

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[arch-general] alternate dependencies?
by Neil Darlow 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Hi, Seeing the earlier post re. tetex and texlive perhaps there is a case for extending pacman to support alternate dependencies. By this I mean a package could depend on one of a choice of packages. The syntax could be something like: depends=( tetex|texlive ) where the individual dependencies retain their current features e.g. versions etc. Opinions welcomed. Regards, Neil Darlow

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[arch-general] kdelibs 3.5.9
by Jakub Schmidtke 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Is there anybody using KDE in Arch at all? It has already been a month since submitting bug report about any KDE editor based on Kate being severely broken in KDE 3.5.9 (http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9891 ) and even though kdelibs package was updated in the meantime, this bug hasn't been fixed. There was no response or a comment, and there is almost no work needed to resolve this issue, since I provided a patch (taken from KDE mailinglist - this bug is confirmed regression fixed in KDE's svn) and a PKGBUILD. I use modified kdelibs package anyway, but I think this is something that really really should be fixed.

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[arch-general] libSoundTouch.a but no libSoundTouch.so
by Nigel Henry 20 Apr '08

20 Apr '08

I'm trying to build Psychosynth on "Don't Panic". There are are a few deps, some of which I need to build from source (OIS, Ogre, and CEGUI). Soundtouch is also a dep, and is available from the Archlinux repos, but running ./configure on Psychosynth, it failed to find the libsoundtouch lib. Looking in /usr/lib, libsoundtouch has a libSoundtouch.a file, but no libSoundTouch.so file, which I presume is why ./configure for Psychosynth cannot find the library. Is this a bug, and if so, where should I report it? I did also download the soundtouch tarball from their site, but with configure, and make problems. ./configure complained that it couldn't find automake-1.9, which is true, as the version installed is automake-1.10. I created a symlink from automake-1.9 pointing to automake-1.10, then ./configure ran to completion, but then make complained that it couldn't find libtools, even though it's installed in /usr/bin. Make said it was looking for libtools in ../libtools, but I'm clueless as to where that is. Any help on that? Any help/suggestions welcome. Nigel.

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Re: [arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 42, Issue 29
by Keith 20 Apr '08

20 Apr '08

FWIW - This might belong on the forums; I've been meaning to post on the topic for a while, but life gets in the way sometimes, and I see the topic here, so... Karolina Lindqvist <karolina.lindqvist(a)kramnet.se> wrote: > s?ndagen den 20 april 2008 skrev Stephen Wilkinson: > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this may have stopped > > working in moving from 2.6.23 to 2.6.24? Is it no longer possible to > > run two sound cards together? > I got the same problem with my (only) built-in VIA sound chip. From kernel 2.6.24 and onwards, the chip has to be enabled in the bios. I had it disabled before. Check your bios settings, and enable the card if it is disabled. Before linux ignored bios settings, but it look likes it does not do that anymore. > Karolina I have 2 ASUS mobo's: an A8V-MX, and a A8N-E. I first bought and built a system around the former (using Arch), maybe 2 years ago. Sound worked fine. It has an onboard Realtek ALC850, but I have an old PCI-based ESS Solo ES1938S card (ES1939 drivers worked fine) which has always provided superior performance to on-board chips (in 2-channel mode, at least, which is fine with me - I don't use my computer as an MP3-player; I only need sound for YouTube/Flash, etc). It has also worked with every system I've build the past 6 years or so. Since the A8V doesn't have a PCI-E graphics slot, and I'd obtained an NVidia 6600GT, I bought the A8N and built a system around it (and the ES1939). No problem with sound. 8 months or so back, the A8N apparently burned up. It would start to boot, the do a full power reset, reboot, rinse and repeat. I couldn't even get to BIOS. I pulled everything out, including the 6600GT (used an old PCI S3 Virge DX for video). No change. I know it wasn't the P/S; I'm using the same P/S in the system I'm typing on ATM. I rebuilt my system, using the A8V and my OLD GeForce2 MX 400. Worked fine - but no sound (using the ES1939). I finally pulled the ES1939 out, enabled the on-board sound chip. STILL no sound. This goes back 6-8 months, I try sound again with every kernel update; nothing's ever changed. The manual which came (in the same, unopened box) with the A8V states the on-board sound chip is a Realtek ALC650; 'cat /proc/asound/cards' reports it as a 'ALC655'. 'lspci' reports a 'VIA VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 70)'. my rc.conf MODULES array: 'MODULES=(mii via-rhine ac97_bus snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-seq-oss snd-seq-device snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-hwdep snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-rawmidi snd-timer snd snd-mpu401-uart snd-ac97-codec snd-hda-intel snd-via82xx soundcore)' I don't understand why snd-mpu401-uart, snd-ac97-codec, snd-hda-intel, and snd-via82xx are ALL loaded, especially snd-hda-intel. That makes NO sense to me. In addition to the ES1938S, I also have a SoundBlaster Live! Gold (CT4620) complete with a CT4660 Digital/MIDI daughter-card (which I don't need). I've re-installed Arch numerous times with and w/o the ES1938, SoundBlaster (with on-board sound disabled), and nothing seems to work. I switched from KDE to Xfce4 a few weeks back (and like it), but would gladly return to KDE if I could get sound working. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I've spend MANY hours, read the wiki's, etc, with no progress whatsoever (note I DO get a 'hum' when I first plug in my speakers, but nothing after that). I would be happy with ANY of these hardware solutions, as long as I have sound. All the appropriate entries in /dev/snd and /proc/asound are present, alsa is in my DAEMONS array in rc.conf. TIA.

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[arch-general] New abs and /var/abs/community
by Karolina Lindqvist 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

With the new abs, community disappeared from /var/abs. Do I need to do something special to get it? after abs shakti:~$ ls /var/abs core extra local README testing unstable shakti:~$ grep REPOS /etc/abs.conf # REPOS to be parsed by abs (in this order) REPOS=(core extra unstable community testing) shakti:~$

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] kernel26 2.6.25-1 enters [testing]
by Thomas Bächler 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

Thomas Bächler schrieb: > I didn't update any modules, so if there are new versions available for > any, please inform their maintainers. The following modules are > currently broken. I didn't do any research on those yet, so if anyone > knows something, please let me know. > > - atl2 (Simo, could you have a look, you must probably update it) Stupid me: I was talking about aufs, not atl2. atl2 is fine.

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[arch-general] Banshee needs an update
by Alec Hussey 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

Hello, I was glad when you guys (or Jan de Groot, whichever) decided to push the banshee alpha out to extra. However, it is missing many pretty essential features and it now far behind the releases put out by the banshee developers. I think that either we need to keep up or provide two seperate versions of the package until a final release of 1.0 is made. Thanks! Alec Hussey

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[arch-general] Mcpp in extra has no maintainer
by Grigorios Bouzakis 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

As subject. It is also out of date.I assume its kth5's package since it is a dependency to xorg-server-utils. Greg

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[arch-general] 2008.04-RC Images are out
by Simo Leone 18 Apr '08

18 Apr '08

Crosspostingissocool http://www.archlinux.org/news/389/ Enjoy.

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[arch-general] libmms update in extra
by Dragonlord 16 Apr '08

16 Apr '08

Hi, I've made a new package in AUR - mimms, which depends on libmms from extra repo. But libmms is flagged out of date and mimms needs the new version to compile and run. Can someone please update the libmms PKGBUILD in extra? There is no maintainer for libmms, so, if this package isn't needed by any other packages, you can also move it to unsupported and I'll take care of it. mimms with the libmms v0.4 works fine, just a bit testing from my side. Thanks D

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[arch-general] Way of flaging out of date?
by gan lu 13 Apr '08

13 Apr '08

In my opinion, Arch is the best distro can really do bleeding edge with stablility, thank devs for their excellent work. However due to some reasion (saying shortage of time, man power, instersts etc), some applications can't be updated in time. We can certainly flag it out of date in the web page easily, but is there a way we can record when it was flaged at the first time and count how many people (useres) want to flag it (like enable people to vote, but of course only send a remind email at the first/person )? Just my idea, I am not a programmer so don't blame me not to do it real by myself.

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[arch-general] Transition to the new perl policy
by Ondřej Kučera 12 Apr '08

12 Apr '08

Hello, I was trying to figure out why something doesn't work with a certain perl module and even though later I found out that the problem is somewhere else, I noticed that there still are some files and directories in /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/current. The packages responsible for this (on my machine) are: perl-compress-zlib perl-parse-recdescent perl-term-readline perl-io-compress-base perl-io-compress-zlib perl-compress-raw-zlib Is this considered a bug, shoud I file a bug report? If so, one for each package, or just on report listing them all? Also, there are these following five files that no package owns. error: No package owns ./x86_64-linux-thread-multi/DCOP/Object.pm error: No package owns ./x86_64-linux-thread-multi/auto/DCOP/DCOP.bs error: No package owns ./x86_64-linux-thread-multi/auto/DCOP/DCOP.so error: No package owns ./x86_64-linux-thread-multi/auto/DCOP/.packlist error: No package owns ./x86_64-linux-thread-multi/DCOP.pm This really confuses me because I never (and I mean really never) install anything any other way than via pacman. It is perhaps related to http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8466, although I'm not sure how come they're without an owner now. Maybe it is because they used to be in site_perl/5.8.8 (and site_perl/current was only a symlink), whereas now they're in site_perl/current which is a regular directory now (and kdebindings still "owns" them in site_perl/5.8.8). Ondřej -- Cheers, Ondřej Kučera

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[arch-general] ArchISO FTP Installer - Testers Needed
by Simo Leone 11 Apr '08

11 Apr '08

Hey everyone, I'd like to begin testing some preliminary work with the arch livecd system. You can find a livecd rigged up to work as an ftp installer at: http://dev.archlinux.org/~simo/archiso_tests/arch-ftp-live-1206519468.iso This ISO consists of our current installer scripts and a functioning arch livecd containing most of the base package set. It uses the grub boot loader, which is likely to be changed to isolinux in the near future. At this point, it's an i686-only thing, but an x86_64 version will be coming soon. If you've got some time to kill, please give the iso a whirl. You'll find the installer and its documentation in its usual home at /arch/ on the livecd system. It'd be nice to have this tested on a large variety of systems if possible. **I need feedback on the following regarding ISO bootup** - Did the grub loader work as expected? - Did it pick up and load the module for your network hardware? - Did it pick up and load the modules for your disk controllers? - Any kernel panics, freezes, that sort of ugly stuff. Please keep in mind that this is not intended to be production quality at this point, and it's a very early version, so there are still a lot of sharp edges that need to be smoothed out. Thanks for your help, -Simo offtopic: archiso_tests also contains a hacky xfce4 livecd image you might want to play around with, although it's a little oldy moldy.

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[arch-general] Previous JRE package release needed.
by ndlarsen 11 Apr '08

11 Apr '08

Hey all. Due to internet banking issues I am in need of the previous package release of JRE. Anyone who might have it? Regards ndlarsen

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[arch-general] eclipse crashes with jre-6u5
by Maik Beckmann 10 Apr '08

10 Apr '08

Just a note for those using eclipse: - http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6614100 This issues isn't one with 6u3. A workaround suggested at the page linked to above is to create a file called .hotspot_compiler containing this exclude org/eclipse/core/internal/dtree/DataTreeNode forwardDeltaWith I will test the workaround first. If it really work I'll report here. If it doesn't, I'll use abs to downgrade to 6u3. Best, -- Maik PS: Don't consider me as a java pro. I use eclipse for C++,Fortran and LaTeX.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] initscripts changes
by RedShift 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

Thomas Bächler wrote: > I am hacking initscripts and can't quite decide on two issues: > > 1) I'd like to hardcode /dev/pts/ mounting in rc.sysinit. What's wrong with putting that in fstab? What if I don't want to have that mounted? So instead of modified fstab I'd have to mess with rc.sysinit everytime the initscripts get upgraded? This is the same discussion as with moving lo to rc.sysinit instead of leaving it in rc.conf. Uterly pointless. Glenn > 2) I'd like to remove the (hardcoded) line /usr/bin/setterm -blank 15 > from rc.sysinit. > No argument here. > Can I get opinions on these? >

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[arch-general] Hardcoded or not
by gan lu 08 Apr '08

08 Apr '08

I put my words here but it's just my opinion: 1. Arch's devs are great and cute. 2. I am against to hardcoded-things. 3. If possible, I prefer what has been hardcoded in file system mounting should put int one file: fstab. 4. Should I open a bug tracker for the discussion.

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Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6
by RedShift 07 Apr '08

07 Apr '08

Simo Leone wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 07:28:13PM +0100, Tobias Powalowski wrote: >> Users are happy with the new ISOs, just read the Forum thread about it. >> > You know what. I don't care if the users are happy with the new ISOs. > That's right, I finally said it. > _I DON'T CARE_ > > I don't care because _I_ am not happy with them. As someone who can see > that from a technological standpoint, it's a marvel that they even work, > that is, as a software developer, I'm ashamed to be associated with such > a shoddy product. > > I've offered alternatives, hell I've spent a lot of time offering > alternatives, built on more solid software enginerring principles > than "Users are Happy", but no one around here, save Dan and Aaron, who > just happen to be code contributors, seems to give a damn. What's up > with that? > *** Prelude *** This discussion was started when tpowa was asking for a signoff on the kernel26 package, which includes patches for an out-of-tree kernel module for a certain wireless card. *** What Dan McGee said *** I have an Eee, I managed to pull off an FTP install just fine. I compiled the driver by hand, just as has always been the case for out-of-tree driver with Arch if there is not already a separate package for it. I did this 22 months ago for my zd1211 wireless stick before it was in the mainline kernel, and I had *0 days of desktop linux experience* at that time (on my own machine). 0 days. And now we bend over backwards for someone needing a driver? Ugh. I thought April fools and the rename to Newb Linux wasn't for another week. -Dan *** My response *** I find myself in 100% agreement on Simo's and Dan's opinion. I've warned for this situation before (see the bug tracker). An example should be taken from CRUX, they've held true to their principles and said screw those who don't agree. And they're right, otherwise we're just on the road to the next Ubuntu. Lots of software is patched nowadays, even for very stupid things most of the old user base wouldn't have cared about. And when PKGBUILDs starts to grow to the point they need scrolling and comments to be clarified, that's just going the wrong way. (Hint, kernel26 PKGBUILD). I wanted to steer clear of personal attacks but unfortunately, tpowa has been a large contributer to the "lets adapt to the community"-style. I'm sorry to say it, but that's how I experience it (because of his work on kernel26 and qt) - and it needs to be said! Arch used to be different. I wouldn't be very surprised if Judd raised eyebrows on what's been going on lately. Notice the large influx of new users. The fact alone that a topic has been started for a stable package repository *and people are willing to contribute to this*, shows the kind of users we're getting: the wrong ones. There has been an ongoing discussion on the bug tracker whether or not post uninstall scripts should stop daemons upon removal. These ideas come from users that are either inexperienced, or trying to mold Arch in something its not. And what about dependencies in initscripts... wtf? Any sane user can find them out for themselves and put them in the right order in rc.conf. What if someone doesn't want this behaviour? For example I don't want dbus and hal started, but what if the kdm rc.d script will do this for me? It ends up with a pretty big mess. Let alone the complexity that is added to the initscripts. What Arch needs, is to say NO to things. There will always be users that disagree, can't use some package because it doesn't fit them. Especially the kernel, all these half-baked largely untested patches for things only a few people (or even just 1) use is a threat to the stability of the kernel package. I've had my share of hardware that didn't work for me, these issues are solved by either compiling your own kernel, replacing the hardware or simply waiting for the next kernel release. But adding largely untested and nobody-knows-where-it-came-from patches to the kernel is *evil*. Another example is the addition of the uucp group by default to /etc/groups. The number of users that use dailup and faxing is *so limited*. And they can just as well addgroup themselves. But meanwhile, all the other users have to take this uucp crap on a default install. And don't say they can groupdel afterwards, Arch is supposed to be slim BY DEFAULT. If people need to start removing crap after they've installed Arch, then something is definitely wrong. What Arch needs is to have strict guidelines on PKGBUILDs and kick out any developers that don't have the same idea. A proposition: * Patches are unacceptable unless in the case the software wouldn't work *at all* (Hint, qt PKGBUILD) * Pre and post install/remove actions should be kept at a minimum. Assume the user is smart (quite the opposite of the current trend). Everybody can read the manpage to adduser and addgroup. Post install echos pointing out small hints to get going quickly is acceptable * Stress the fact that users must read pacman's output and the news. Alot of problems on IRC are related to the fact that people are lazy and don't read pacman's output _at all_. That's their own damn fault * No handholding (like, no automatic stopping of daemons upon pre remove, adding of groups, etc...) * Bugs and other issues that come from upstream, _should be fixed upstream_. If people do have problems with a certain issue, they can abs and makepkg themselves. (See rule 1) * No branding or "Arch defaults". It only makes the PKGBUILDs more complex, and ruins the idea of the software coming in its original form from the authors Another point of interest may be that many people used to find gnome coming "ugly" by default (I don't know if this still the case). So what? Selecting your own theme is just a few mouse clicks away. Arch should never come with a fscked up KDE or Gnome profile like Ubuntu and others do. In fact, packages should *always* come with the defaults shipped by upstream. That being said, there's no such thing as one size fits all. There will *always* be users that "fall out of the boat" (a Dutch expression). But the fact is, because of Arch's simplicity, Arch can be made to work for these people in a very easy way. But when you have a kernel26 PKGBUILD that's 320 lines long, that simplicity is gone. The users should adapt to Arch, not the other way around. Glenn

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[arch-general] arch and xen = awesome
by Arvid Ephraim Picciani 07 Apr '08

07 Apr '08

btw. something positive: anyone following the xen mailing list? half of the problems are becouse somone fucked something really badly downstream. like an automatic kernel install script that overwrites your grub config, becouse it is oh so much smarter then a human. wuuush production server gone. yay. arch doesn't have those problems. guess why? thanks for all those years of assuming humans are smarter then scripts! -- best regards Arvid Ephraim Picciani

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] initscripts changes
by RedShift 07 Apr '08

07 Apr '08

Thomas Bächler wrote: > I am hacking initscripts and can't quite decide on two issues: > > 1) I'd like to hardcode /dev/pts/ mounting in rc.sysinit. > 2) I'd like to remove the (hardcoded) line /usr/bin/setterm -blank 15 > from rc.sysinit. > > Can I get opinions on these? > Thomas, Having read your last e-mail you are right, I should have *pointed out* my opinion instead of going omgwtf. The thread resulted in savagery - nowhere near civilized. I apologize for that. I will try and keep my e-mails more professional. Glenn

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[arch-general] graphviz needs to come out of testing for gnome-2.22 upgrade
by Neil Darlow 07 Apr '08

07 Apr '08

Hi, graphviz-2.18 is a dependency of anjuta and currently it's stuck in testing. Looking at its repo information it appears to be maintainerless. Could someone please progress it out of testing. Thanks. Regards, Neil Darlow

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] initscripts changes
by Giovanni Scafora 06 Apr '08

06 Apr '08

2008/4/6, Thomas Bächler <thomas(a)archlinux.org>: > 2) I'd like to remove the (hardcoded) line /usr/bin/setterm -blank 15 from > rc.sysinit. +1 here. -- Giovanni Scafora Arch Linux Trusted User (voidnull) http://www.archlinux.org linuxmania(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] RIT.EDU New Mirror
by Lee R. Burton 06 Apr '08

06 Apr '08

http://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux Supports ftp and rsync as well, I would like to make it an official mirror. (do you all do push mirroring?) Located Rochester, NY, USA ~200mbps, Academic backbone No IPV6 yet... Is there any other information needed? --- Lee Burton lburton(a)mrow.org 301 910 0246

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[arch-general] How to create archlinux install CD?
by Karolina Lindqvist 05 Apr '08

05 Apr '08

I have a new i586 machine and want to install archlinux i586 on it. So I want to recreate the archlinux install CD. But how do i do it? I have unpacked the install ISO, and is replacing all the packages, but when it comes to inird.img, the instructions in the wiki do not work. I cannot mount the unzipped inird.img. What should I do? file say that it is a cpio archive, but how do I unpack and mount it? And then, what is lowcore.img? Of course I could do it by booting debian, or something, and then replacing it with archlinux, but actually having an archlinux install CD would be pretty handy for my i586 machines.

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[arch-general] initscripts-splash
by Elia Yehuda 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

Hey all, as been advised before to use the new functions.d functionality i've wrote a splashy functions file which seems to work pretty well. one problem though - since the /etc/rc.d/functions file only expose the source_functions function and doesn't actually execute it, all the functions.d/* files will be ignored unless the source_functions is specifically being called to. this raise a problem with progressing the progress-bar when starting the daemons in rc.multi - since i was trying to keep the initscripts intact and not change any of the scripts, ive recreated add_daemon in my functions.d/splashy file which does increment the progress bar, but functions.d/splashy will be ignored since all the daemon scripts simply source /etc/rc.d/functions but dont call the source_functions. the only solution i could find was to call source_functions within /etc/rc.d/functions itself which means whenever /etc/rc.d/functions is being sourced, source_functions will be called too. i would like to know the cons for this behavior and whether this shouldn't be the default behavior anyway. also, if someone has a better alternative to make rc.multi/daemons be aware of splashy or the functions.d/* files i'll be glad to hear. Blessings, z4ziggy

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[arch-general] HP C3180 connected using usb no longer works
by Neil Darlow 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

Hi, My HP C3180, connected using usb, has recently stopped working. I'm not sure if it's related to recent changes in udev. lsusb -vv gives: Bus 002 Device 007: ID 03f0:5611 Hewlett-Packard PhotoSmart C3180 ls -l /dev/usbdev2.7 gives: crw-rw-rw- 1 root lp 189, 134 2008-04-04 19:40 /dev/usbdev2.7 My groups setting is: sys tty lp wheel network video audio optical storage scanner camera power users neil I am using udev-119-1, foomatic-db-hpijs 20080211-1 and cups-1.3.7-1 on i686. Any suggestions as to where to look for debugging this would be appreciated. I recall having to do this once before. Regards, Neil Darlow

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[arch-general] ArchISO FTP Installer - Round 2
by Simo Leone 04 Apr '08

04 Apr '08

First off, thanks for the feedback last week. Most of the issues were minor and not-too-technical, so they weren't too tricky to iron out. Another batch of images has been generated with suggested improvements, they can be found at: http://dev.archlinux.org/~simo/archiso_tests/installer/ This time, there are ISO and USB images for both architectures. Once again, I'm looking for testers. So if you have some time to kill, please give 'em a spin and let us know how it goes. Generally speaking the live system should be able to: a) boot and b) connect to a network. If for some reason you can't get it to do one of those, I'm especially interested in hearing about it. If no major issues can be identified with these, the next batch will be a full-blown core-ftp-i686-x86_64-usb-iso release. Early and Often, as they say. Thanks for your help! -- Simo Leone Archlinux Developer PS: For the interested, changelogs and code repos: http://code.neotuli.net/gitweb/?p=archiso.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ftp-i… http://projects.archlinux.org/git/?p=archiso.git;a=summary

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[arch-general] phpPgAdmin package appears broken in latest update
by alec.hussey＠madsoft.org 02 Apr '08

02 Apr '08

Hey everyone, The other day I did a system upgrade and upgrade to the latest phpPgAdmin. However, after the ugrade had finished there was nothing left in /home/httpd/html/phpPgAdmin other than conf/config.inc.php.pacsave. And removing then reinstalling the package does not resolve the problem. Then I figured it may have moved directories and didnt specify that during the upgrade but the only results returned are: /home/httpd/html/phpPgAdmin /home/httpd/html/phpPgAdmin/conf /home/httpd/html/phpPgAdmin/conf/config.inc.php.pacsave Not exactly sure what happened here but it seems as if the package has become broken. Maybe if anyone else has a better idea they could let me know. Thanks! -Alec Hussey

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[arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German
by pyther 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

I need you guys to recommend a new distro. Unfortunately I made a terrible mistake by taking Spanish two years ago (didn't learn much, but still...). This means I do not know German I will be unable to read man pages and what not! I am looking for an ENGLISH distro that is as similar to Arch Linux as possible. Any help would be great! Thank you, Pyther

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[arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core
by Thomas Bächler 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

After I discovered that my problems with the new Intel driver where related to dhclient and fixed the bug, I am now successfully using iwl3945 on my machine. It seems to be working perfectly, so I am considering dropping ipw3945 from core/support with the 2.6.25 release (so there will be no new package versions after ipw3945-1.2.2-8). This is intended as a warning, but also as a question: Is there anyone who cannot use iwl3945 instead of ipw3945?

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[arch-general] Custom kernel compile fails
by CtM 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Happy April everyone! I was just wondering if anyone else was having issues building a recent custom kernel. I find that it fails on the make command. Here is the output I get: LD .tmp_vmlinux1 kernel/built-in.o: In function `getnstimeofday': (.text+0x205d3): undefined reference to `__umoddi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `getnstimeofday': (.text+0x205f6): undefined reference to `__udivdi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `do_gettimeofday': (.text+0x20718): undefined reference to `__udivdi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `do_gettimeofday': (.text+0x20736): undefined reference to `__umoddi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `timekeeping_resume': timekeeping.c:(.text+0x209e6): undefined reference to `__umoddi3' timekeeping.c:(.text+0x20a06): undefined reference to `__udivdi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `update_wall_time': (.text+0x20d5a): undefined reference to `__umoddi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `update_wall_time': (.text+0x20d7a): undefined reference to `__udivdi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `update_wall_time': (.text+0x211f6): undefined reference to `__umoddi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `update_wall_time': (.text+0x21216): undefined reference to `__udivdi3' make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 I have tried kernel 2.6.24 and 2.6.24.4 on two different machines with two different cpu's (one intel dual core and one AMD 64 bit). I've tried using my previous config (make oldconfig) and also tried without it. I even ran make clean && make mrproper on the new extracted kernel directory before attempting to build it. Usually upgrading a kernel is very routine for me, but this time it isn't working. All kernel sources were downloaded from kernel.org as usual for me. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, CtM

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[arch-general] Goom Byetteng
by Essien Ita Essien 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] licenses: GPL permutations
by Loui 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:20:37 +0300 "Roman Kyrylych" <roman.kyrylych(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2008/3/30, Paul Mattal <paul(a)mattal.com>: > > What is the right way to list all the various contortions you can now > > have of GPL in the license array? There's: > > > > GPL - any version of GPL > > GPL2 - only version 2 > > GPL2+ - version 2 or later > > GPL3 - version 3 only > > GPL3+ - version 3 or later > > > > These are all substantively different (except the last two.. for now) so > > how do we express these? Should we actually create common licenses GPL2+ > > and GPL3+ which reference the other two, and make GPL reference them > > all? Do we need a GPL1 and GPL1+? > > This issue was discussed in past > (I'm lazy to search for exact thread(s), sorry). > The current scheme is: > GPL - GPLv2 "or, at your opinion, any later version" > GPL2 - GPL2 only (e.g. Linux kernel) > GPL3 - GPL3 "or, at your opinion, any later version" > I don't know of a single project with GPLv1 or GPLv3-only license. > I don't like all these "this version or later" boondongles. Why don't we just keep things KISS and let people explicitly state what licenses are permissable. GPL1, GPL2, GPL3. Put one, or more of those in your licenses array and it's crystal clear what you mean.

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[arch-general] problem with courier-imap-4.3.1-1-i686
by Jason R Begley 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

I can't get some mail clients to connect to courier-imap-4.3.1-1-i686 after reecnt upgrades... Was working file with courier-imap-4.2.1-2-i686, I have rolled back without problems. Only error I could find in the log was imapd-ssl: couriertls: accept: error:1408A0C1:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:no shared cipher Maybe only compiled for ssl3 and my clients need <V3?? Thanks, Jason

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[arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future
by Gerhard Brauer 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hello, i've noticed this meanwhile quiet often after many installations. Currently after a test with 2008.03-0.3, but also with older ISOs: After install and first reboot i got such fsck notice during rc: ,---- | /dev/sda3: Superblock last mount time is in the future. FIXED | /dev/sda3 has gone 49710 days without being checked, check forced. `---- Here¹ you could download a screenshot from such a situation where also a reboot is required after fsck. Cause this is the *first* reboot after installation users will get a bad impression about Arch. First i thought this comes from vmware, but i also get it in virtualbox and i've seen this also during real installations. I have a suspicion: During (c)fdisk and formatting the disks current locale and timezone is set to US values (don't know at the moment the initial settings presented in rc.conf). During configuration i set my locale and timezone always to de_DE.utf8 and Europe/Berlin. And when first reboot is made that from umounting / there is a time difference that could cause such and flag it on ext3 partition? Or with the order in rc scripts? Maybe also that the hwclock is changed during/after installation... Have others also seen such? ¹ http://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/screen.png -- Don't drink and root!

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[arch-general] Something screwy with colour terminal output at shutdown
by Neil Darlow 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hi, Since the last initscripts update (I think) my colour terminal output at shutdown is messed-up. Use of colour at startup is correct but at shutdown the following is shown: 1) The preceeding :: appear dim-yellow 2) Daemon names don't appear 3) Daemon shutdown noise (e.g. postgresql's server stopped output) appears dim-grey It's not a big problem, I could just set USECOLOR="no" but if anyone knows a quick fix to make it work again, I would prefer that. Regards, Neil Darlow

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[arch-general] html messages on this list.
by Arvid Ephraim Picciani 30 Mar '08

30 Mar '08

please stop sending broken html from dialup machines. I can't believe arch-general is the only list where people do that. Even the default sa from the arch packges filters those with up to 8 points. Seriously,... archers should be able to read RFCs and setup their MUA correctly. -- best regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen Arvid Ephraim Picciani

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[arch-general] Current FTP/HTTP install broken
by Gerhard Brauer 29 Mar '08

29 Mar '08

Hello, at the moment it seems that doing installation by ftp/http source is broken for the current ISOs 2007.08-2. We got several posts on archlinux.de and i see also on archlinux.org: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=345662 Also some new comments in old bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8898 Problems seems some missing filelists in some packages (ex. glibc) and that there are 3 /mnt/.CHANGELOG files conflicting in glibc, initscripts and perl. These stops the installation of all/most base packages and so if user go further in install/configuration all config files are empty. Will these be fixed before the new ISO go official? Bye Gerhard -- DSSP - Deutschland sucht den Super Papst Casting mit Fliege

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[arch-general] Warning on php-apc update
by Pierre Schmitz 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Dear PHP user, the update from php-apc to Version 3.0.17 includes a security fix: http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2008-1488 But it seems that the other changes of that new version are introducing several problems which will cause php to crash. It seems to be quite random but I have seen phpMyAdmin triggering those crashes a lot. I would recommend to disable APC until this is fixed. My current plan is to downgrade APC to 3.0.16 again and try to backport the security patch only. Greetings, Pierre PS: this bug-report seems to be related: http://pecl.php.net/bugs/bug.php?id=13505 -- archlinux.de

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[arch-general] firefox & gcc 4.3
by Grigorios Bouzakis 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Hi, i have been trying to build firefox3b4 or firefox 2.0.0.12 for the past day without success. I guess it has something to do with the latest gcc upgrade to 4.3. Has anyone managed to build it, from AUR or not, within the last couple of days? ps. i am using the testing repo Greg

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[arch-general] Is foomatic-db-engine being attended-to re. Perl-5.10.0?
by Neil Darlow 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

Hi, I noticed that package foomatic-db-engine installs some files into /usr/lib/perl5/current. According to the Perl Policy, on the Arch wiki, this is indicative of a non-policy-confirming package and should be dealt with. Is this happening, or has it slipped through the cracks? Regards, Neil Darlow

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Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6
by Guilherme M. Nogueira 26 Mar '08

26 Mar '08

That's my first message to the mailing list, I've just been reading it since I started using archlinux as my distro in September 2007. I just want to say that what made me move to arch was The Arch Way. I just fell in love with it the first time I read it in the wiki. Then came pacman. It's amazing to configure your system yourself, editing configure files and keeping track of every modification. Pacman output is great: if you read it. And I think everyone that WANTS to use arch should, and should accept The Arch Way as it is. I love it and I wouldn't like to see it go down in misery. Long live Arch's Way. Not for lazy ones. Thank you all, Guilherme ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:07:17 -0500 (EST) > From: <w9ya(a)qrparci.net> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] signoff kernel26-2.6.24.3-6 > To: <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: <60645.192.168.1.110.1206475637.squirrel@gateway> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > ONE comment inserted below; > > > > On Montag, 24. M?rz 2008 22:47 RedShift wrote: > > > > At first see this all only as the opionion of a normal user and i find > > it good that you challenge such things because this is even a good way > > to improve it. > > > > If this discussion is only for devs than please apologize this and copy > > the lines below to /dev/null.-) > > > >> Lots of software is patched nowadays, even for very stupid things most > >> of the old user base wouldn't have cared about. And when PKGBUILDs > >> starts to grow to the point they need scrolling and comments to be > >> clarified, that's just going the wrong way. (Hint, kernel26 PKGBUILD). > > > > I do not like patches too. And yes, i love it that archlinux is using in > > the most cases the sources as they comes from the upstream. But sorry to > > say, the kernel is a special case. > > > > If you find time take a look for the kernel source packages of another > > distributions and you will see that everyone is patching the kernel. > > Okay, what ist the reason for it? The kernel devs said in the past > > (sorry, i have no url) that getting the kernel stable is the job of the > > distributions teams. This is not fantastic and i don't like this > > situation too but this is the situation. > > > > That is why i find that tpowa is doing a great job and the kernel26 > > PKGBUILD is a good example because all patches been commented so if you > > don't like it you can create very easy your own kernel package. And more > > than the half of the PKGBUILD is copying files and the reaons for it is > > that other packages need this include files. > > > >> Notice the large influx of new users. The fact alone that a topic has > >> been started for a stable package repository *and people are willing > >> to contribute to this*, shows the kind of users we're getting: the > >> wrong ones. There has been an ongoing discussion on the bug tracker > >> whether or not post uninstall scripts should stop daemons upon > >> removal. These ideas come from users that are either inexperienced, or > >> trying to mold Arch in something its not. And what about dependencies > >> in initscripts... wtf? Any sane user can find them out for themselves > >> and put them in the right order in rc.conf. What if someone doesn't > >> want this behaviour? For example I don't want dbus and hal started, > >> but what if the kdm rc.d script will do this for me? It ends up with a > >> pretty big mess. Let alone the complexity that is added to the > >> initscripts. > > > > Smile, because i find that a kdm rc.d script is from my view unnecessary > > because you can handle it easy in the inittab file and this is the first > > time that i see that there is a kdm script.-) But i can understand that > > people who switch from another distribution will miss in the first > > moment some of this automatic things. Give them time and this "problem" > > will gone away but perhaps i see this too easy. > > Coddling the user by just such an addition achieves nothing of either > transient or of a lasting nature for a distro such as ours. > > i.e. *IF* this was the right way to go, then the other distros that are > starting kdm via such a script wouldn't have people leaving their fold and > switching to ArchLinux. > > Specifically, kdm, xdm, et al were ORIGINALLY started as part of the init > processing string and/or X startup and specifically not part of a rc.d > setup. The rc.d style of doing this for the various popular desktop > managers was a later invention that came from the beginner's based > distros. > > > As for the rest of this discussion, as a LONG TIME user of ArchLinux I am > finding it a good discussion to have at this point in time. Please keep > the comments coming. I am greatly encouraged by you all having this > discussion. > > Very best regards; > > Bob Finch > > ------------------------------ >

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[arch-general] gtklp shouldn't depend on cups
by Petar Bogdanovic 25 Mar '08

25 Mar '08

Hi, a gtklp installation should not pull the whole cups package, since its binaries only depend on libcups: $ ldd /usr/bin/gtklp | grep cups libcups.so.2 => /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 (0xb79ba000) $ ldd /usr/bin/gtklpq | grep cups libcups.so.2 => /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 (0xb799e000) $ pacman -Qo /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 /usr/lib/libcups.so.2 is owned by libcups 1.3.6-1 With `gtklp -S' one may specify remote cups servers so a missing local cups daemon is not making gtklp useless. Is this worth a PR? Thanks, Petar

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[arch-general] lzma compression tests
by Mark Constable 25 Mar '08

25 Mar '08

FWIW, possibly worth considering adding lzma to pacman... http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3326 --markc

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[arch-general] cannot mount dvd or camera
by Arthur 24 Mar '08

24 Mar '08

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[arch-general] 2008.03 TEST ISOs released
by Tobias Powalowski 24 Mar '08

24 Mar '08

Hi i just placed the new "Core Dump" TEST ISO to the mirrors eg: ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/other/rc-iso/2008.03/ some days testing should be enough, I tested them in kvm-qemu and didn't find an issue. ATTENTION: This ISO contains packages that are in testing repository. So don't be suprised by getting package is newer then repository on first pacman -Syu. Those errors will be gone when we moved in the packages, which will happen soon. Changelog: GENERAL: - kernel 2.6.24.3 usage - pacman 3.1.3 usage - RAM usage has been revisited, these are the new recommendations: * FTP ISO, CORE ISO: arch boot image 160 MB RAM x86_64/i686 (all packages selected, with swap partition) * CORE ISO: lowmem boot image 64 MB RAM x86_64/i686 (all packages selected, with swap partition) FIXES: - fixed intel wireless automatic module loading (arch boot image) - fixed auto prepare of harddisk (lowmem boot image) - added more checks and improvements to autoprepare of harddisk - added missing netfilter modules and some wireless addon modules - added dmraid and linux-atm to install environment - added gpt support to grub - added tiacx module and firmware files to install environment - added parted to install environment - updated ftp mirrors to latest status references to bug reports: - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/4762 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/5825 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/7975 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8422 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8431 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8435 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8561 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8616 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8638 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8699 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8835 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8852 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8886 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8898 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8952 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9374 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9436 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9452 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9494 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9560 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9697 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9734 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9864 - http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9865 As usual check md5sum before using the images and also be aware of the new RAM recommendations the images have. Have fun greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] AUR 1.5.1 Released
by Simo Leone 23 Mar '08

23 Mar '08

That's right folks, the "quick" release that wasn't so quick after all. Terribly sorry about the delay, school is like having one of those cartooney iron balls chained to your leg. Nothing too special to see, miscellaneous updates and some bug fixes. Some speed improvements on the search page, and the JSON interface should work now *poke poke* json client authors. Oneliner log follows. Enjoy. -- Simo Leone Archlinux Developer 7d7ef9b... Version bump to 1.5.1 99e65b2... Revamped pkg_search_page() da3b397... Updated Polish translation 2462777... Small fix to Italian translation b1fe84d... Fixed bug where search resets when browsing orphans e64307d... Generate valid dummy data entries 3577326... Make all references to AUR database consistent e0582fd... Fix weird title setting on search page 172dbf6... Fixed broken search results fca6767... One more json fix 0e32c86... Changed valid_passwd() to check for non-empty password instead of good_passwd() a5a8895... Put login into its own function. 541ea8a... Fixed a couple more lingering JSON bugs 9a4ca4e... Changed to non-fancy logo 9254804... Fixed operator precendence in aurjson 196543a... Make JSON interface work a2fe04f... Added missing message to Italian translation 90ceaca... Another small fix for Italian translation 380b1b6... Updated German translation 1200ce9... Updated French translation 865ffb9... More small updates to Italian translation e7bb7a2... Turn more and less buttons into links

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[arch-general] [signoff] madwifi/madwifi-utils 0.9.4.3382
by Tobias Powalowski 19 Mar '08

19 Mar '08

Hi bump of madwifi drivers, back to trunk version please signoff both arches also users can signoff, no respond from any dev bump at least anyone? greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] cryptsetup 1.0.6-1
by Gerhard Brauer 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 11:31:22AM +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: > New version with some bugs fixed. Please sign off (tested by me on x86_64). I have tested it on my luks encrypted laptop and on some loop device container which are also luks encrypted. I could boot my laptop ;-) and tested adding/deleting passphase keys. If this is enough i could give a user signoff for i686. (Sorry for crossposting but i thought i couldn't post directly on arch-devel). Gerhard -- Ein Registry-Cleaner ist fuer Win-User der Bulldozer des kleinen Mannes.

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[arch-general] Grub and GPT partition labels
by Gerhard Brauer 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

Hello, are there any plans to prepare our grub with support for GPT partition labels? The grub version from current install ISO could not be installed on such a prepared harddisk: Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xee Good old lilo on the other side works like a charm ;-) There must be patches for grub to provide this (???) My question result from a discussion where someone would like to install on an >7TB Array and says: it doesn't work, but on Debian, SuSe. And he doesn't provide further infos... ;-) But i've done some tests in an VM and don't see problems in kernel or tools. Only the grub problem. The discussion is only in german: https://forum.archlinux.de/?page=Postings;id=20;thread=8205 Regards Gerhard -- www.archlinux.de

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[arch-general] xorg-server without hal
by Varun Acharya 18 Mar '08

18 Mar '08

Though the xorg-server with hal support ruined many keybindings for me, I realised that its the only way to get my apple wireless bluetooth keyboard to work properly with X. Initial pairing is fine, but if I let the computer idle for a while, the keyboard falls asleep, and X does not recognize it when it wakes up in the xorg-server without hal support. In xorg-server with hal support, the keyboard works no matter how long I let my box idle. So I have to reconnect the keyboard and restart X for things to work again in xorg-server without hal. Anyone aware of any workaround for this? I tried running "hidd --connect XXXXX --server" , but the "--server" part didn't help. On a side note, the tilt wheel on my mouse is behaving crazy. If I tilt left or right, X is restarted. If I restart into Vista and then back into Linux, then tilt works fine, but scroll wheel is way too fast. Is this related to any recent xorg-server updates? Thanks, Varun

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Re: [arch-general] HAL mounts CDs, doesn't mount DVDs
by Ravi Desai 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

I thought that the cd/dvd/floppy sections of fstab are commented out when using HAL (So says the HAL wikipage). So this should not make any difference. Vinay S Shastry wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Renan Birck <renan.dream(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Roman Kyrylych wrote: > > > >> > > What filesystem is on those DVDs that can be mounted (OpenSUSE) and >> > > those that cannot be mounted? >> > > > > The DVDs that mount seem to be ISO9660, while the ones that don't mount > > seem to be UDF. > Have you tried using filesystem type "auto" in fstab for the relevant device? > > > -- Vinay S Shastry http://thenub.one09.net

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Processor Generation++
by RedShift 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

Pierre Schmitz wrote: > Am Montag, 17. März 2008 10:11:15 schrieb Tobias Powalowski: >> My opinion on this, why to desupport something which might be still used, >> also we all know that x86_64 is the future and therefore i don't think the >> benefit is worth the trouble. > > In addition to this MMX would not really boost anything. SSE would be much > superior. And further more: You would only notice such improvements on heavy > multimedia encoding stuff and such things you would not do on an 10 years old > computer. > You could say the same thing between using march=i386 vs. march=i686. I'm for this idea, and I would even suggest bumping from i686 to pentium3. But not any further than that, because I'm still using an ArchLinux install on my Pentium 3 500 Mhz testbox... Glenn

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[arch-general] HAL mounts CDs, doesn't mount DVDs
by Renan Birck 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

Hello, I have Arch Linux with all updates. Having a problem with HAL: it auto-mounts CDs but not data DVDs (however, some DVDs, like the OpenSUSE 10.3 install, mount automatically). My DVD-RW drive is an LG GSA-H44N. If that matters, my desktop environment is KDEmod. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Renan Birck ~ Canoas, RS, Brasil "Quando tudo que você tem é um martelo, todos os seus problemas se parecem com os seus dedões."

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Re: [arch-general] arch-general Digest, Vol 41, Issue 23
by Leandro Chescotta 17 Mar '08

17 Mar '08

no, i dont have plan9 installed, and the file is wmiirc, i have just realized that my ~/.wmii-3.5/wmiirc file has not the proper permissions, i chmod +x it, but now i have wmii to not load properly, and in VT1 it says there's in line 63 near unespected esac... the portion of ~/.wmii-3.5/wmiirc that gives the error: # Event processing # Processed later by `wmiiloop' and evaled. # Duplicate the eval line and replace 'eval' with 'echo' for details. eventstuff() { cat <<'!' # Events Event Start case "$1" in wmiirc) exit; esac # <---- error in vt1

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[arch-general] [signoff] e2fsprogs 1.40.8
by Tobias Powalowski 16 Mar '08

16 Mar '08

Hi bump to new version: E2fsprogs 1.40.8 (March 13, 2008) ================================= Fixed e2image -I so it works on image files which are larger than 2GB. Fixed e2fsck's handling of directory inodes with a corrupt size field. If the size is larger than the number of blocks found in the inode, don't try to allocate extra empty blocks at the end of the directory to make up the difference; there's no point to doing that. In addition, if the size is not a multiple of a blocksize, always fix it. E2fsck handled a pass 2 "should never happen error" by not giving enough information and then core dumping. Unfortunately, it was all too easy to trigger the "should never happen" situation if a directory's inode size was not correct. This has been fixed, but e2fsck has also been taught how to handle this situation more gracefully, by simply removing the inode hash tree information, so that it can be rebuilt again after e2fsck's pass 3. (Addresses Launchpad Bug: #129395) Resize2fs had a bug resizing large inodes with extended attributes that was fixed in 1.40.6; unfortunately, it turned out it wasn't fixed completely on big-endian systems such as PowerPC. The bug should be completely fixed now. Yay for regression test suites. (Addresses Red Hat Bugzilla: #434893) Updated German, Czech, Dutch, Polish, Sweedish, and Vietnamese translations. Many thanks to Philipp Thomas from Novell for stepping up to become the new German translation maintainer! (Addresses Debian Bugs: #302512, #370247, #401092, #412882). When e2fsck is clearing a corrupt inode's HTREE directory information, make it clear that it is just clearing the HTREE information, not the entire inode. Fixed spelling mistakes, typos, and otherwise clarified man pages. please signoff greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] wmii dont read ~/.wmii-3.5/wmiirc file
by Leandro Chescotta 16 Mar '08

16 Mar '08

Hi! im new to wmii (just start using it yesterday) but it seems that my ~/.wmii-3.5/wmiirc file is not being read... i quit and reload x to reload my config, but with no change... my ~/.wmii-3.5/wmiirc file (copied from /etc/wmii-3.5/wmiirc file and changed a bit): #!/bin/sh -f # Configure wmii # Configuration Variables MODKEY=Mod1 UP=k DOWN=j LEFT=h RIGHT=l # Colors tuples: "<text> <background> <border>" ### Set 1 Colors :: (Gloom Theme) ### #WMII_FOCUSCOLORS=('#ffffff' '#282828' '#cccccc') #WMII_BACKGROUND='#333333' #WMII_NORMCOLORS=('#e0e0e0' '#0a0a0a' '#606060') ### End Set 1 Colors ### ### Set 2 Colors ### WMII_NORMCOLORS='#888888 #000000 #000000' WMII_FOCUSCOLORS='#ffffff #222222 #333333' WMII_BACKGROUND='#000000' ### End Set 2 Colors ### WMII_FONT='-*-arial-medium-r-*-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-*-*' ### Default Font ### #-*-fixed-medium-r-*-*-13-*-*-*-*-*-*-* set -- $(echo $WMII_NORMCOLORS $WMII_FOCUSCOLORS) WMII_MENU="dmenu -b -fn '$WMII_FONT' -nf '$1' -nb '$2' -sf '$4' -sb '$5'" WMII_9MENU="wmii9menu -font '$WMII_FONT' -nf '$1' -nb '$2' -sf '$4' -sb '$5' -br '$6'" WMII_TERM="urxvt -sh 50" # Column Rules wmiir write /colrules <<! /.*/ -> 58+42 ! # Tagging Rules wmiir write /tagrules <<! /XMMS.*/ -> ~ /MPlayer.*/ -> ~ /.*/ -> sel /.*/ -> 1 ! # Status Bar Info status() { echo -n $(uptime | awk '{ print "Uptime: "$3" days "$1" "} '|' PCM: $(get_volume) '|' $(date +'%R %d/%m/%Y')' } # Event processing # Processed later by `wmiiloop' and evaled. # Duplicate the eval line and replace 'eval' with 'echo' for details. eventstuff() { cat <<'!' # Events Event Start case "$1" in wmiirc) exit; esac Event Key fn=$(echo "$@" | sed 's/[^a-zA-Z_0-9]/_/g') Key_$fn "$@" Event CreateTag echo "$WMII_NORMCOLORS" "$@" | wmiir create "/lbar/$@" Event DestroyTag wmiir remove "/lbar/$@" Event FocusTag wmiir xwrite "/lbar/$@" "$WMII_FOCUSCOLORS" "$@" Event UnfocusTag wmiir xwrite "/lbar/$@" "$WMII_NORMCOLORS" "$@" Event UrgentTag shift wmiir xwrite "/lbar/$@" "*$@" Event NotUrgentTag shift wmiir xwrite "/lbar/$@" "$@" Event LeftBarClick shift wmiir xwrite /ctl view "$@" # Actions Action quit wmiir xwrite /ctl quit Action exec wmiir xwrite /ctl exec "$@" Action rehash proglist $PATH >$progsfile Action status set +xv if wmiir remove /rbar/status 2>/dev/null; then sleep 2 fi echo "$WMII_NORMCOLORS" | wmiir create /rbar/status while status | wmiir write /rbar/status; do sleep 1 done Event ClientMouseDown client=$1; button=$2 case "$button" in 3) do=$(eval $WMII_9MENU -initial "${menulast:-SomeRandomName}" Nop Delete Fullscreen) case "$do" in Delete) wmiir xwrite /client/$client/ctl kill;; Fullscreen) wmiir xwrite /client/$client/ctl Fullscreen on;; esac menulast=${do:-"$menulast"} esac # Key Bindings Key $MODKEY-Control-t case $(wmiir read /keys | wc -l | tr -d ' \t\n') in 0|1) echo -n $Keys | tr ' ' '\012' | wmiir write /keys wmiir xwrite /ctl grabmod $MODKEY;; *) wmiir xwrite /keys $MODKEY-Control-t wmiir xwrite /ctl grabmod Mod3;; esac Key $MODKEY-space wmiir xwrite /tag/sel/ctl select toggle Key $MODKEY-d wmiir xwrite /tag/sel/ctl colmode sel default Key $MODKEY-s wmiir xwrite /tag/sel/ctl colmode sel stack Key $MODKEY-m wmiir xwrite /tag/sel/ctl colmode sel max Key $MODKEY-a Action $(actionlist | eval $WMII_MENU) & Key $MODKEY-p sh -c "$(eval $WMII_MENU <$progsfile)" & Key $MODKEY-t wmiir xwrite /ctl "view $(tagsmenu)" & Key $MODKEY-Return eval $WMII_TERM & Key $MODKEY-Shift-space wmiir xwrite /tag/sel/ctl send sel toggle Key $MODKEY-f wmiir xwrite /client/sel/ctl Fullscreen toggle Key $MODKEY-Shift-c wmiir xwrite /client/sel/ctl kill Key $MODKEY-Shift-t wmiir xwrite "/client/$(wmiir read /client/sel/ctl)/tags" "$(tagsmenu)" & Key $MODKEY-$LEFT wmiir xwrite /tag/sel/ctl select left Key $MODKEY-$RIGHT wmiir xwrite /tag/sel/ctl select right Key $MODKEY-$DOWN wmiir xwrite /tag/sel/ctl select down Key $MODKEY-$UP wmiir xwrite /tag/sel/ctl select up Key $MODKEY-Shift-$LEFT wmiir xwrite /tag/sel/ctl send sel left Key $MODKEY-Shift-$RIGHT wmiir xwrite /tag/sel/ctl send sel right Key $MODKEY-Shift-$DOWN wmiir xwrite /tag/sel/ctl send sel down Key $MODKEY-Shift-$UP wmiir xwrite /tag/sel/ctl send sel up Key $MODKEY-Mouse4 sh -c "$(amixer -q set PCM 20+)" & Key $MODKEY-Mouse5 sh -c "$(amixer -q set PCM 20-)" & ! for i in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9; do cat <<! Key $MODKEY-$i wmiir xwrite /ctl view "$i" Key $MODKEY-Shift-$i wmiir xwrite /client/sel/tags "$i" ! done } # WM Configuration wmiir write /ctl << EOF font $WMII_FONT focuscolors $WMII_FOCUSCOLORS normcolors $WMII_NORMCOLORS grabmod $MODKEY border 1 EOF export WMII_MENU WMII_9MENU WMII_FONT WMII_TERM export WMII_FOCUSCOLORS WMII_SELCOLORS WMII_NORMCOLORS # Feed events to `wmiiloop' for processing eval "$(eventstuff | sed 's/^[ ]//' | { . wmiiloop; })" echo "$Keys" | tr ' ' '\n' | wmiir write /keys # Functions Action() { action=$1; shift if [ -n "$action" ]; then Action_$action "$@" \ || conf_which $action "$@" fi } proglist() { paths=$(echo "$@" | sed 'y/:/ /') ls -lL $paths 2>/dev/null \ | awk '$1 ~ /^[^d].*x/ && NF > 2 { print $NF }' \ | sort | uniq } # Misc progsfile="$WMII_NS_DIR/.proglist" Action status & proglist $PATH >$progsfile & xsetroot -solid "$WMII_BACKGROUND" & # Setup Tag Bar seltag="$(wmiir read /tag/sel/ctl 2>/dev/null)" wmiir ls /lbar | while read bar; do wmiir remove "/lbar/$bar" done wmiir ls /tag | sed -e 's|/||; /^sel$/d' | while read tag; do if [ "X$tag" = "X$seltag" ]; then echo "$WMII_FOCUSCOLORS" "$tag" | wmiir create "/lbar/$tag" else echo "$WMII_NORMCOLORS" "$tag" | wmiir create "/lbar/$tag" fi done # More functions tagsmenu() { wmiir ls /tag | sed 's|/||; /^sel$/d' | eval $WMII_MENU } actionlist() { { proglist $WMII_CONFPATH echo -n $Actions | tr ' ' '\012' } | sort | uniq } conf_which() { which=$(which which) prog=$(PATH="$WMII_CONFPATH" $which $1); shift [ -n "$prog" ] && $prog "$@" } # Stop any running instances of wmiirc echo Start wmiirc | wmiir write /event || exit 1 wmiir read /event | while read event; do set -- $event event=$1; shift Event_$event $@ done 2>/dev/null -- ----------------------------------------------- http://aleyscha.spaces.live.com/ "Conócete a ti mismo, y así conocerás el Universo y sus dioses"

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[arch-general] Problems with keyboardinput
by Johannes Held 15 Mar '08

15 Mar '08

Hello, I have a second Arch running in a virtual machine. Recently I noticed that I can't write some characters like @, {, ~ .. and the like. It seem's that AltGr is somewhat broken. I know that I had this problem with my normal PC. But the solution is 30kilometers away and buried somewhere unter ~/tmp.. (hopefully) As far as I know - it was something simple with kbdfont or something like that... -- Gruß, Johannes Täglich http://blog.hehejo.de und du fühlst dich gut. http://cryptocd.eduforge.org/online_version

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[arch-general] initscripts-splash
by dongiovanni＠archlinux.de 14 Mar '08

14 Mar '08

Hallo, Currently I'm maintaining splashy and fbsplash. Some time ago there was a discussion of integration of the splash hooks in the initscripts in [core]. Is there something planed? It would reduce problems for some less experienced users. If this isn't possible, can someone update initscripts-splash when the new initscripts go to [core]? I only could upload a third initscripts package, that I can maintain myself, but that would only make a mess... I don't know if dtw is still active. The last time a dev updated the initscripts-splash package. Since I'm not a TU I depend on someone who updates it in order to support the new udev in a correct way. Thanks for now, dongiovanni

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[arch-general] Apple keyboard broken in [testing]
by bardo 14 Mar '08

14 Mar '08

Hi all. I'm experiencing a strange problem with my Apple aluminium keyboard: a few days ago the F1-F4 keys stopped working, and the ` and < keys were swapped (meaning: pressing one of the keys gives the output of the other). If I changed my layout the same two keys were swapped, even though they now mapped other carachters, so it should be a scancode problem. This happens in both X and in console, the keyboard was working fine before and it works fine if plugged to any other machine. Hard to say which package broke the whole thing, since it happened after a 600MB upgrade, but I suspect the usual udev... Trying to fix the problem I plugged another usb keyboard to the same port, but everything was ok, so I began playing with showkey and xev. Result: the Apple keyboard returns different scancodes and keycodes from the other one. The same kayboard is broken on the two Arch machines I own, which both run testing, and I was able to find a user on IRC with the very same keyboard working outside of testing. Downgrading xorg-server did not work (as I expected, since the console is broken, too) and I'm starting to run out of ideas. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Corrado

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[arch-general] [signoff] pcmciautils
by Tobias Powalowski 13 Mar '08

13 Mar '08

Hi fixed udev rules file to use load-modules.sh instead of plain modprobe. signoff for both arches, please greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] [signoff] madwifi/madwifi-utils 0.9.4.3382
by Tobias Powalowski 13 Mar '08

13 Mar '08

Hi bump of madwifi drivers, back to trunk version please signoff both arches also users can signoff, no respond from any dev greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] udev-118-5 udev.rules.pacsave
by Neil Darlow 13 Mar '08

13 Mar '08

Hi, Is it safe to delete /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules.pacsave following the update? Regards, Neil Darlow

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[arch-general] [signoff] madwifi/madwifi-utils 0.9.4
by Tobias Powalowski 13 Mar '08

13 Mar '08

Hi small bump of madwifi drivers please signoff both arches also users can signoff, no respond from any dev greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Dangerous dbus update for testing
by Jan de Groot 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

There's a dangerous dbus update coming up for the testing repository. The package itself isn't so special, as it works fine, but the fact that every dbus-daemon process on your system will crash during the upgrade can lead to unpleasant surprises. Testing users: please be aware of this and run your upcoming upgrades from a plain text console instead of from X. One of the unpleasant surprises is that xorg-server in testing goes down with dbus while it's upgrading, leading to loss of important work or an interrupted package upgrade process.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] ISO 2008.03 release status update
by Grigorios Bouzakis 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 08:10:22PM +0100, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Hey guys keep cool, > following packages i would like to see in core: > > pending signoffs and move to base: > pmciautils, just a small udev.rules fix waiting for signoff. > cryptsetup -->waiting on response > > klibc > klibc-extras > klibc-module-init-tools > --> seems to be solid and movable, would you move in Thomas? > > vi > --> seems to be signed off, could Eric or Tobias this move in or should i move > it? > > klibc-udev? > the one from testing works fine, we can use this 116-3 > instead of 118 which is not buildable here. > --> move in klibc-udev-116-3, would you move in Thomas? > > initscripts? > bump to 2008.03 with the last changes from git > aaron and roman will add the final changes and then release a new version. > > mkinitcpio? > do we need a new version to get init= syntax back? > if yes we could fix this bug also: > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9433 > --> Aaron said doesn't seem to be an issue > problem because of missing /dev/mem? > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9813 > Thomas is this a showstopper? > > pending signoffs and move to support: > rp-pppoe --> waiting for response > tiacx --> will go to core now > tiacx-firmware --> will go to core now > > wpasupplicant? > Thomas movable? > > fuse? > Thomas is there an issue atm? > movable? > > kbd? > Roman wanted to add some changes and additions to it, > this is not critical we could live with the old version too. > Roman just tell me, if we should wait for your work or not. > > madwifi/madwifi-utils? > I don't have the hardware and cannot test it at all. > I am so undecided, Andy has issues with both the one in core and the one from > testing. > Varun reported this bug on his macbook: > http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9802 > Others have no issues and gave signoff on general ml. > We could move in the so called stable version or leave it with the snapshot we > already have in core.(I hate buggy modules:( ) > > delayed package moves due to rebuilds and issues: > gcc > build-toolchain > libtool > perl > > any other comments? > > greetings > tpowa May i add xorg-server to the above packages too? I know its not part of core, let alone base, but its a very important package in extra. Current xorg-server in testing comes with HAL enabled. Reference: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9563 Is that gonna be the default now? Users probably havent reported back on this, but many had problems with it. On the other hand others didnt. Its already a month in testing, but no decision has been made up yet. Should this be reviewed later? What do devs think about this change? Greg

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[arch-general] [OT] i'm giving away textbooks
by Petar Bogdanovic 12 Mar '08

12 Mar '08

Hi, I'm aware of this being off-topic but since no profit is going to be made, I dare to post the [1]offer here. The books are in excellent condition and shape. You only have to accept the shipping [2]costs. Thanks, Petar [1] http://smokva.net/lib/ [2] The books are in Switzerland, Europe.

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[arch-general] xf86-video-i810 obsolete?
by David Rosenstrauch 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

After tracking down an issue I was having, I finally realized the cause was that I was using an outdated version of my X video driver. It looks like xf86-video-i810 (unbeknownst to me) has been renamed to xf86-video-intel, and that new development is continuing there. If that's the case, then shouldn't we decommission the xf86-video-i810 package? Is there any reason to keep it around? DR

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[arch-general] [signoff] tiacx tiacx-firmware
by Tobias Powalowski 11 Mar '08

11 Mar '08

Hi new package for core repository please signoff both arches also users can signoff greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] udev 118-4
by Michal Soltys 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

You can block frambuffer in udev, but you have to block the driver by its modalias or other attributes (similary as if you tried to block sound through udev). For example, following rule would do the thing in my case, on one of my machines (that has some old ati card): SUBSYSTEM=="pci", ATTR{vendor}=="0x1002", ATTR{device}=="0x5446", OPTIONS="ignore_device" Or you could just use modalias. For example - provide auto generated 03-fb-block.rules by PKGBUILD in form similar to: ACTION!="add", GOTO="fb_block_end" DRIVER=="?*", GOTO="fb_block_end" ENV{MODALIAS}!="?*", GOTO="fb_block_end" ENV{MODALIAS}=="modaliases #1", OPTION="ignore_device" ENV{MODALIAS}=="modaliases #2", OPTION="ignore_device" ..... LABEL="fb_block_end" This should be blazing fast, without any need for extra logic in module loading scripts you call from udev. Moreover - if users don't want it - they can simply mv or rm that file. However you name the file, make sure it's parsed before big compound udev.rules you use. Btw - is there any reason why fbcon is built into kernel, instead of being left as a module (also, fbcon never loads automatically) ? Consoles are not taken until fbcon is activated - so maybe it would solve the issue with binary blobs having problems with active framebuffer driver. Just a thought (although as per fbcon documentation, depending on how well the framebuffer driver is written, consoles might end with garbaged screen w/o fbcon ; they shouldn't though). cheers Michal

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[arch-general] compiz-fusion with gnome
by Verner Jänes 10 Mar '08

10 Mar '08

Hi. I installed compiz-fusion to my gnome desktop and now I have two problems with it. First: no shadows around windows or panels (tweaked the window manager section under compiz control panel, but it didn't work). Secondly, the performance is very bad although games (e.g. urban terror) run fairly good. Also it seems that there is no option to use metacity styles (under ubuntu you can still use the same themes if I'm not mistaken). Just to mention, few days ago I had problems with compositing and openGL (I wrote a letter to the mailinglist), but after reinstalling and using nvidia-xconfig --composite option (no --add-argb-visuals any more on newer nvidia cards), the problem got fixed. So anyone having the same problem or know how to help, please let me know. Verner

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[arch-general] New (currently) unofficial IRC channel: #archlinux-server
by RedShift 09 Mar '08

09 Mar '08

main screen turn on There's a new IRC channel on the block, #archlinux-server. It deals with all things Arch Linux and server related. You're welcome to step in and talk about servers, or help others with their server-related problems. Keep in mind this channel is currently unofficial, and hope to have some nice talks on irc://irc.freenode.net/#archlinux-server ! Best regards, Glenn

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[arch-general] whither man page for xorg.conf?
by David Rosenstrauch 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

Anyone know where the man page for xorg.conf is located? For some reason, when I try "man xorg.conf" I get "No manual entry for xorg.conf". I know there's a man page for it, though, since it's available online. (http://linux.die.net/man/5/xorg.conf) DR

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[arch-general] Problem with compositing and openGL.
by Verner Jänes 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

Hello everyone. Well I have problem with my 64 bit system. I have Nvidia 8400GS card with driver installed and enabled (it means that I get glxinfo and glxgears output), but compositing or any 3D games don't work (some openGL error). But at the same time I gan run simple 3D applications like glxgears. Also Nvidia driver starts correctly on startup (logo comes up) and compositing is enabled in xorg.conf. So any ideas on my problem? Might it be a 64 bit system issue? Just to add, under Ubuntu compiz and games worked just fine. Thanks, Verner.

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[arch-general] [signoff] xfsprogs 2.9.7
by Tobias Powalowski 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

Hi version bump please signoff both arches also users can signoff, no dev seems to use xfs. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] next problem - where'd all the screensavers go?
by David Rosenstrauch 06 Mar '08

06 Mar '08

After the upgrade to screensaver, a whole bunch of screensavers (e.g., BSOD) don't seem to be visible from within the KDE control panel screen saver module. Didn't see anything about it in either the forums or the bug tracker. Ideas anyone? TIA, DR

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[arch-general] Qsynth crashes when clicking on buttons (Don't Panic)
by Nigel Henry 06 Mar '08

06 Mar '08

Hi Folks. When I open Qsynth, I can rotate the various controls, but clicking on any of the buttons causes it to crash. For example I click on the "Options" button, the options window opens momentarily, but is blank, then Qsynth goes out to lunch. When Qsynth is opened without messing with the buttons, Qjackctl shows fluidsynth available as an input port, so that bit is working ok. Starting Qsynth on the CLI gives me this output, see below. [djmons@myhost ~]$ qsynth Warning: no locale found: /usr/share/locale/qsynth_en_US.qm Segmentation fault [djmons@myhost ~]$ I'm totally clueless about locales, but could this be the problem? Looking in /usr/share/locale there is no en_US locale. There are a bunch of en locales though (en, en@boldquot, en@quot, en_CA, en_GB) Looking at when I started Qsynth on the CLI as above, it shows a segfault, but the GUI for Qsynth is still showing. It's only when I click on a button that it crashes. Can anyone confirm that they have Qsynth working as expected? I don't want to post a bug report if this problem has something to do with locales on my install. Thanks for any help on this problem. Nigel.

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[arch-general] Does anyone find Compiz Fuscion eat up all Alt keys?
by yueyu lin 06 Mar '08

06 Mar '08

Hi, all I found the CF in my machine ate up all alt keys besides the CF binding short cuts including Alt, such as Alt+F1,Alt+Tab,Alt+F2,etc. The scenario is when I enable compiz fuscion in my laptop T61p with nvidia newest driver, everything works fine and smoothly except no more application short cuts containing Alt. That means firefox doesn't have "Alt+F", "Alt+E", Emacs doesn't have "Alt+X". Especially for Emacs's "Alt+X", it's my most important things to use Emacs even use my laptop. So I have to disable compiz when I wanna use Emacs. I really have no idea what happened even after searching internet. I found when I use xmodmap to add Alt_L to the mod4 even the Alt_L and Alt_R is already set to mod1, the application short cuts work but the compiz short cuts retire... which means "Alt+Tab" doesn't work. The following is the output of my "xmodmap", I wish it would be helpful to identify the problem. Thanks. [yueyulin@t61p ~]$ xmodmap xmodmap: up to 2 keys per modifier, (keycodes in parentheses): shift Shift_L (0x32), Shift_R (0x3e) lock Caps_Lock (0x42) control Control_L (0x25), Control_R (0x6d) mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x71) mod2 Num_Lock (0x4d) mod3 mod4 mod5 Scroll_Lock (0x4e) -- -- Yueyu Lin

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[arch-general] same packages with different letter case in names?
by Sergej Pupykin 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

Hello, All! What difference between x86_64/koffice-l10n-en_GB-1.6.3-2.pkg.tar.gz x86_64/koffice-l10n-en_gb-1.6.3-2.pkg.tar.gz x86_64/koffice-l10n-pt_BR-1.6.3-2.pkg.tar.gz x86_64/koffice-l10n-pt_br-1.6.3-2.pkg.tar.gz in [extra]?

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[arch-general] [x-post] Re: [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26-2.6.24.3-2
by bardo 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Tobias Powalowski <t.powa(a)gmx.de> wrote: > > Sure, but that doesn't answer my question- can a real time clock still > > be used for sound? It appears not. Are we sure we don't need one of > > the two options available (RTC or RTC_GEN)? > > > > -Dan > Hi > This is a good question, i don't have any idea how to test this. > Or for what it should be good for. The RTC is used, for example, with midi. My midi setup is broken for me with the latest [testing] kernel if I don't blacklist snd-rtctimer: playing a midi file results in just the first note going on forever. Funny thing is there's no such thing as snd-rtctimer.ko, but lsmod showed it, and removing it made midi working again. Corrado

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[arch-general] BitTorrents not seeding
by Ravi Desai 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

Hey, I've downloaded the torrents of Archlinux-i686-2007.08-2.{core,ftp}.iso, but am unable to re-seed them through bit-torrent. Deluge (the BT client that I am using) says this: "Tracker status: Alert: (HTTP code = 200, times in a row = 7)". I'm not really sure what that means. Is this a problem with my client, or is the tracker simply not working? Thanks, Ravster

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[arch-general] kde-18n-fr-3.5.9 - Broken tar archive
by marc[î1] 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

Hello, kde-i18n-fr-3.5.9 is broken ! Erreur: erreur lors de la lecture du paquet /var/cache/pacman/pkg/kde-i18n-fr-3.5.9-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz: Damaged tar archive: Argument invalide Someone can help french user ? -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + + (o< -! marc[i1] #363392 + + //\ http://archlinux.fr + + \\/_ Linux for Free Generation + + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +

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[arch-general] Kernel ext2 driver
by Peter Feuerer 05 Mar '08

05 Mar '08

Hi list, just wanted to ask, why ext2 isn't built directly into the kernel anymore? Is there any special reason? I would prefer to have ext2 built in again, because I'm dealing a lot with special configurations of archlinux, like thinclient installations where the whole image is running in an ext2 formated ramdisk and so on. Currently I'm building the complete kernel everytime I need to do an upgrade. But I think the ext2 driver isn't such a big ballast for standard systems, so you might want to do me a favour and set it as a built in driver of the standard kernel again. Would save me a lot of compile time. kind regards, --peter

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[arch-general] Boot sequence stops at modules (rc.sysinit)
by Stephen Wilkinson 04 Mar '08

04 Mar '08

Hello everyone, After upgrading the kernel alone (and after fixing some kernel panics -- see postscript) the boot sequence now stops at loading the modules ([DONE]) and goes no further: the cursor blinks and I can type characters, but I never get a shell prompt. It seems the boot sequence doesn't go beyond rc.sysinit The only reference I found to a similar problem is in the forum: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=323775 where it was suggested to try the fallback image and removing modules from the rc.conf. I've tried both, but hasn't helped (as expected: the kernel loads properly, so not an ramdisk problem, and the modules also load as I get [DONE] status...). Before this problem, I knew nothing at all about the boot sequence in linux so I read this: http://wiki.freegeek.org/index.php/The_Linux_Boot_Sequence Please correct me if I've misunderstood: after loading the kernel, the boot sequence gets to the init stage, and rc.sysinit is executed -- which, according to my '/etc/rc.sysinit' ends with loading of modules... but what happens next? I've looked at /etc/inittab but I don't understand how the sequence of events (and scripts) is specified. I tried booting into different run levels (adding 1 or 3 to the kernel line of grub), but it makes no difference. Because I don't get to a login prompt, I resorted to using a live CD to mount my root partition and tinker with /etc/rc.sysinit ... although I admit I don't know what I'm doing. I thought that maybe the initscripts package should have been upgraded at the same time as the kernel. In summary, what I've tried: - used a live CD to edit rc.conf (disable modules), and checked there was nothing in rc.local -- made no difference - tried booting with fallback image -- made no difference (didn't think it would as the kernel loads properly) -- made no difference - used a live CD to tinker with /etc/rc.sysinit but don't know what I'm doing, and it seems to complete successfully anyway, as all modules are loaded (status says [DONE]) - tried entering run level 1 by appending 1 to my Grub kernel line -- made no difference Is there a way to bypass what comes between the end of rc.sysinit (i.e. loading the modules) and the login prompt, so that I can at least log in and then try to fix the problem? In other words, how do I find out what happens after rc.sysinit and disable it? Thanks, Steve P.S: in case it's relevant, here is a summary of the kernel panics I got after upgrading the kernel and rebooting: After kernel upgrade I got kernel panics because I hadn't changed initrd26.img to kernel26.img and /dev/hda5 to /dev/sda5 in Grub's menu.lst (as you can see I hadn't upgraded for a long time, and didn't pay enough attention to the upgrade messages). Having done that, I then had to correct /etc/fstab for the same /dev/hda5 mistake. Finally the kernel booted properly, but the sequence stops at loading modules.

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[arch-general] Kernel ext2 driver
by Keith 03 Mar '08

03 Mar '08

On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 at 13:41:46 +0100, Jan de Groot <jan(a)jgc.homeip.net> wrote: > On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 20:50 -0600, Dan McGee wrote: > > Your entire rest of statement was valid, but why on earth did you make > > a claim like this? I have to speak up and say something here. ext2 is > > nowhere near dead. I use it on my /boot partition on every Linux > > install, and every filesystem on my Eee is currently ext2. Hardly > > dead- unless "stable as hell" = dead. > > Ext2 is stable as hell, so is ext3. The point is that nowadays almost nobody wants to use a filesystem without journal, that's why I consider it dead. If journalling wasn't important (and if I didn't need filesizes bigger than 2 or 4GB), then FAT32 wouldn't be a dead filesystem either. Ext3 is basically just Ext2 with an added journal, so that's why Ext2 is still developed and supported. ??? First off, FAT32 is a native Linux filesystem??? AND it's dead??? I haven't used it in, maybe, years, but I do have one box for my printers/scanners with only Win98 or WinXP drivers. It would be nice to know I COULD dual-boot it and access the FAT32 partition(s), at least. Thought that's why it was there? I *never* use ext3, for anything. I've used ReiserFS, JFS, XFS. They all have advantages in particular situations. Ext3 seems to me a 'catch-all' not optimized (and, thus, NON-optimal) for any situation. However, for ALL my installs, I have a separate /boot partition - and it's ALWAYS ext2. ALWAYS. I guess I'm "almost nobody" - but who needs a journaling FS for /boot? As my /boot is generally in the 32-64MB range, the journal would take up virtually the entire FS (obviously, meaning I'd need a larger /boot partition, or else needlessly complicate the /boot partition creation; it's brainless as it is now). Last time I checked, /boot has no need (nor will it at ANY POINT in the forseeable future) for 2GB+ files or filesystems. I agree completely with Dan here. I'm FAR from a pro on Linux, but why this is even an issue of contention is going over my head...this all seems pretty simple, and pretty obvious, even to ME; pretty simply = ext2. KISS, right? Sincerely, Keith

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[arch-general] Firefox PGO builds
by Emmanuel Benisty 01 Mar '08

01 Mar '08

Hi Arch-General, Further to the /. discussion about PGO Firefox builds [ http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/27/2049258 ], I decided to give it a try out of curiosity. I just simply followed the instructions of Mozilla website about PGO builds [ http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Building_with_Profile-Guided_Optimizat… ] using an up-to-date CVS tree. So I just have few questions about this: - Is Arch planning to provide PGO builds once FF3 is released ? - Did anyone try to build FF3 wih PGO ? If yes, how did you manage to build it as user ? Using the 'default process' will require root privilege otherwise it will fail because of a simple permission problem. (firefox-bin:8960): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Unable to create ~/.gnome2 directory: Permission denied Could not create per-user gnome configuration directory `/root/.gnome2/': Permission denied make: *** [profiledbuild] Error 1 ==> ERROR: Build Failed. Aborting... To launch FF between the 2 builds, I used the simple script of the mozilla doc (Cf. link above): #!/bin/sh export NO_EM_RESTART=1 mkdir $OBJDIR/_profileprofile $OBJDIR/dist/bin/firefox -no-remote -profile $OBJDIR/_profileprofile As root, everything is working as expected. The point is that running FF (to 'build' the profile) as root is really something that I would like to avoid for obvious reasons. Thanks a lot in advance for any suggestion/advice.

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[arch-general] Anyone using fprint for authentication ?
by Alper KANAT 01 Mar '08

01 Mar '08

Hey There, I want to use my fingerprint scanner to login through GDM and GNOME Screensaver... I can do this right now partially... It always asks for my password which is maybe secure but annoying at the same time.. I want to use fingerprint login first and if it fails then I want to use password login.. Any ideas for how to do this ? I'm trying this in GNOME Screensaver but it asks for the password whenever I slide my finger on the scanner.. -- Alper KANAT http://raptiye.org

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[arch-general] where is kde 3.5.9 ?
by solsTiCe d'Hiver 29 Feb '08

29 Feb '08

hi kde 3.5.9 is out since the 19th february i was used to have the latest kde release the day before the offical release on arch ! now we are almost 10 days after the official release and nothing. what's happening ? even if arch switch to kde 4 (too soon for me) i prefer to wait Kde 4.1 will we have a kde 3.5.9 release in arch ?

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[arch-general] Missing man pages
by Mordechai Peller 29 Feb '08

29 Feb '08

I notice that some of the man pages are missing, including: find, cat, ls, uniq, tee, and tail. They were in man-pages-2.74-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz, but not man-pages-2.77-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz or man-pages-2.78-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz. Was there any reason they where removed? Thanks

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[arch-general] Help!Can anyone be so nice to share the Purevoice Linux SDK?
by yueyu lin 28 Feb '08

28 Feb '08

Hi, all If you're the voice codec developers, you may know Qualcomm closed the Purevoice SDK downloads since Dec 31,2007. As I don't save a copy of that and cannot see any signs Qualcomm will re-open it soon, can anyone who has the SDK to share with me? I don't think it will violate any laws cause Qualcomm used to open downloads and even Qualcomm's brew SDK is free. Thanks in advance. Any help will be highly appreciated! -- -- Yueyu Lin

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[arch-general] Tk707. Problems getting sounds out of it (Don't Panic)
by Nigel Henry 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

Looking for available audio apps, I installed tk707. There were some problems when starting it from the CLI (couldn't find shared libraries) as below. [djmons@myhost ~]$ tk707 /usr/bin/tk707bin: error while loading shared libraries: libtk8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [djmons@myhost ~]$ tk707bin tk707bin: error while loading shared libraries: libtk8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [djmons@myhost ~]$ su Password: \[root@myhost djmons]# ln -s /usr/lib/libtk8.5.so /usr/lib/libtk8.4.so [root@myhost djmons]# exit exit [djmons@myhost ~]$ tk707 /usr/bin/tk707bin: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [djmons@myhost ~]$ su Password: [root@myhost djmons]# ldconfig [root@myhost djmons]# tk707 /usr/bin/tk707bin: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [root@myhost djmons]# ln -s /usr/lib/libtcl8.5.so /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so [root@myhost djmons]# exit As you can see, I created a couple of symlinks, and then starting tk707 again, opened the ports selection window. So far so good. I've got an Audigy2 soundblaster on this machine, and need to load a soundfont to use the hardware synth. I looked for the awesfx package, and jacman shows version 0.5.0d-2 available from the community repo, but installing it with jacman failed (couldn't find the package). I also tried pacman -S awesfx, but again the package couldn't be found. The community repo is uncommented in /etc/pacman.conf, and pacman -Sy shows it on the list of updated databases. Any suggestions as to how I can get the awesfx package? I could use TiMidity to get sounds out of tk707, or Qsynth (If it's available), but being able to load the soundfont for my card is preferable. Thanks for any help, suggestions. Nigel.

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[arch-general] Concurrent java environments
by Ondřej Kučera 27 Feb '08

27 Feb '08

Hello, I was wondering - why jre/jdk packages conflict with java-gcj-compat? Unless I missed something there are no file conflicts (since jre and jdk are in /opt) and I think the rest (switching between the environments when necessary) could be done be (re)setting of environment variables (such as $PATH and $JAVA_HOME). Or am I overlooking something? Being a java developer (at least from time to time) I am in need of Sun implementation (actually even of version 6), on the other hand on x86_64 the webplugin from gcc-gcj in combination with java-gcj-compat is the only way to run some applets (e. g. those that need security certificates; for other applets only gcc-gcj might be enough). Ondřej -- Cheers, Ondřej Kučera

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[arch-general] Packages without license field in official repos
by Xavi Soler 26 Feb '08

26 Feb '08

My intention is to know the number of non-free packages installed on my system. In Debian I can use 'vrms' [1]. I think Arch has nothing similar, but I can start programming an application like 'vrms' (maybe using libalpm or calling pacman directly). My first test has been typing: $ pacman -Q | pacman -Qi | less and reading carefully the license fields: most (BSDs and MITs specially) say 'custom'. The big problem I've found is that, quite often, I read the word 'none' there, but I can't understant how can it happen in packages stored in official repos. There are a lot of packages without license field. I could do a heavy research to know which packages include a license field and which don't, and then warn their mantainers. But it would be a waste of time. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vrms -- Blog: http://interrupciones.net

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] udev 118-2
by Michal Soltys 24 Feb '08

24 Feb '08

Aaron Griffin wrote: > > Idea #2: > $ mv /etc/udev/rules.d/00-load-blacklist.rules > /etc/udev/rules.d/00-load-blacklist.rules.disabled > in /etc/rc.sysinit, add ". /lib/udev/mod-blacklist.sh" and "export > BLACKLSIT MOD_AUTOLOAD" right before the udevd --daemon call > comment out the echo lines in the mod-blacklist script if you care > > Hopefully the environment vars that udev sees are also seen by scripts > that it executes... > Sorry for crossposting, but I couldn't not add some remarks :) Following discussion on dev mailing list regarding new udev and initscripts, I have one question - why rely on separate blacklist defined in rc.conf ? modprobe supports blacklisting itself in modprobe.conf (to be precise - it blacklists all aliases for specified modules, which is exactly what's needed here). You can use raw modprobe and probably speed up things nicely, without any extra scripts. That mod-blacklist.sh will be called on every uevent once - environment is not preserved between uevents (even with line proposed by Aaron), and must be fresh on every uevent. Btw - you can monitor environment with udevmonitor --env Other remarks: Is there particular reason, why you use monolithic single udev.rules file ? Defaults in etc/udev/rules.d and etc/udev/packages are pretty clean and logical (standard rules from udev-118). Also they are split into xy-something.rules files so any specifics you need overridden in Archlinux, can be easily done so, with i.e. last_rule option and separate files. Easier for you to maintain, also easier for users to adjust for their particular needs Compatiblity rules for loading scsi devices are no longer needed, as far as i know. Few others can be skipped as well (check 80-drivers.rules for current state, also gentoo 30-kernel-compat.rules for interesting reference). Cheers

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[arch-general] problem with fakeroot
by Karolina Lindqvist 21 Feb '08

21 Feb '08

When building kdelibs, I always get the following error: ../../kdoctools/meinproc --srcdir=../../kdoctools --check --cache index.cache.bz2 ./index.docbook ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. The make appears not to be able to be done with fakeroot, but as far as I understand, makepkg always does that. The solution is to build as root. Is there any other way to avoid this?

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[arch-general] Mirror out of sync?
by David Rosenstrauch 20 Feb '08

20 Feb '08

Anyone know what's up with the ftp://mirrors.unixheads.org/archlinux/$repo/os/i686 mirror? It appears to be out of sync on at least one key package: the kernel! The devs released 2.6.24.1 on 2/10, but the mirror still has 2.6.23.14. Anyone know what's going on with it? (And/or who to contact over there to get it updated?) TIA, DR

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[arch-general] AUR Release 1.5.0
by Simo Leone 19 Feb '08

19 Feb '08

I will be updating the AUR on main site sometime this evening. There might be intermittent downtime and maintenance messages, but downtime will be minimal. This is a really big release, and I do mean big. This release brings a json interface, the brand new arch look, a tu voting back-end, tons of changes under the hood, and the removal of safe flags, among tons of other changes. See the shortlog for the nitty gritty. 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Re: [arch-general] [aur-general] mysql-5.0.51-3 broke.
by Jason R Begley 16 Feb '08

16 Feb '08

JJDaNiMoTh wrote: >On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:40:19 -0500 >Jason R Begley <jayray(a)digitalgoat.com> wrote: > > > >>Sorry, supposed to be /etc/conf.d/mysql >> >> >> >... and I think that this question need to be posted on arch-general :) > > > > I can't get it right today.. Thanks :)

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[arch-general] monospace fontsize changed in firefox
by Petar Bogdanovic 15 Feb '08

15 Feb '08

Hi, during the past few weeks there were xserver and firefox updates and it seems that they have made firefox render some monospace-fonts slightly bigger. The following image displays a part of a board which has not been modified for years: Mirror 1: http://i30.tinypic.com/vg6e0h.png Mirror 2: http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1708/monobt7.png CSS-definition for the displayed text (before _and_ after change `x'): font: normal 13px monospace; I tried to display the page with a new firefox-profile (rm -rf .mozilla) but it looked the same. Thanks, Petar BTW: I don't have a clue about the font-family used in the example since xfontsel is still a total mystery to me. However, I do know that `monospace' is just something like an alias and not a real font.

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[arch-general] [translation] String freeze for pacman 3.1.2 release
by Dan McGee 15 Feb '08

15 Feb '08

Some comments from the 3.1.1 string freeze still apply so I have included these below. Note that libalpm has had zero string changes this time around, meaning you do not need to submit this po file unless you are making grammar or spelling corrections, etc. If you have any questions, please contact the pacman-dev mailing list. Thanks! > I've CC-ed this to the Arch General list to see if we can get a > helping hand with some of our currently neglected translations. As > this list may not be quite as familiar with how everything works, > PLEASE reply to the list or privately to me if you have questions or > want to help out but are not sure how. > > Our pacman translation policy is outlined here. The important sections > for translators are the introduction and up to (and including) > pre-release updates. > http://www.archlinux.org/pacman/translation-help.html > > As stated in the above document, PO files have been made available to translate: > http://code.toofishes.net/pacman/po_files/ > > I would like to get the release out within the next 7 days, so the > sooner the better for the translations. Current list of known translators: http://projects.archlinux.org/git/?p=pacman.git;a=blob;f=TRANSLATORS > If you wish to help translate, but your language is already listed as > handled by someone, please contact them at the above addresses. If the > language is listed as "no current translator", then please reply to > ALL on this message stating you are doing the translation so we do not > have duplicated effort (although you are more than welcome to work in > teams). > > Once you have updated or completed a translation, simply tar and gzip > the files up and send them back to pacman-dev(a)archlinux.org with a > [translation] prefix in the message. > > For those that are used to the old method of updating translations > (GIT patches), those are still acceptable as well. Please prefix the > patch with "translation:" so it can be picked out easily. HOWEVER, if > at all possible, please do not needlessly update the line numbers in > the code! It makes it much easier to see which translations have been > changed and updated if line number changes are not 90% of the patch. > The "translations" branch is located in my GIT repo; one of the > following things will probably be of help. > > http://code.toofishes.net/gitweb.cgi?p=pacman.git;a=shortlog;h=translations > > git remote add dan http://code.toofishes.net/gitprojects/pacman.git > git checkout -b translations dan/translations

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[arch-general] `filesystem' upgrade overwrites /etc/issue
by Petar Bogdanovic 14 Feb '08

14 Feb '08

Hi, Is there a reason, why /etc/issue is not in the backup array of core/base/filesystem/PKGBUILD? Thanks, Petar

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[arch-general] kernel 2.6.24 and rlocate can work together
by Attila 14 Feb '08

14 Feb '08

Hi, i put this here as an information instead of writing a feature request because at the moment i don't think it is the job of the arch devs to cancel a decision of the kernel devs. Okay, i found a patch to get the possibility of loading LSM modules back: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=207421#c7 After following the instructions from above i have this lines in my config: CONFIG_SECURITY=y CONFIG_SECURITY_MODULAR=y # CONFIG_SECURITY_NETWORK is not set # CONFIG_SECURITY_CAPABILITIES is not set updatedb and locate works as normal. I don't know if this will works with following kernel releases but at the moment this is a nice option if you use rlocate. See you, Attila

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[arch-general] Opera 9.5x snapshots moved to unstable
by Andreas Radke 14 Feb '08

14 Feb '08

I have removed the Opera devel snapshots from our testing repo to not mix it with future 9.2x releases. You find the latest 9.5x snapshots now in unstable for both arches. Take care - it replaces the stable Opera from extra. So backup all your stuff before you try it out. -AndyRTR

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[arch-general] no x with new xorg-server and nvidia
by Johannes Held 12 Feb '08

12 Feb '08

Hi folks, right now, I updated my machine and X won't start! The new kernel, new xorg-server and nvidia-*. nvidia 169.09-2 nvidia-utils 169.09-1 xorg-server 1.4.0.90-6 kernel26 2.6.24.1-2 I updated normally but X won't start. All I get is a blank screen. I can't change back to ttys. The only thing that's working is CTRL+ALT+DEL to reboot my machine. I tried a few thing.. pacman -Rd xorg-server nvidia nvidia-utils and installing them again pacman -S xorg-server pacman -S nvidia nvidia-utils everytime the symlink to libwfb.so in /usr/lib/xorg/modules is symlinked to the "real" libwfb. Having nvidia-* installed, it symlinks to libnvidia-wfb.so.169.09. If nvidia is not installed, it symlinks to libwfb.so.1.4 Any ideas? I can't get any output of the starting X-Server, because I can't switch back to the tty. Thanks in advance. -- Gruß, Johannes Täglich http://blog.hehejo.de und du fühlst dich gut. http://cryptocd.eduforge.org/online_version

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[arch-general] Firefox 2.0.0.12, unable to rebuilding !
by Gilles CHAUVIN 11 Feb '08

11 Feb '08

Hi all, I sent an e-mail early to whom I think is responsible for this package but, since I got no reply yet, I'm trying here and see if I have more luck :). It seem like there is a problem with the latest Firefox update (v2.0.0.12). I cannot rebuild the package as there is a file (declared in the PKGBUILD) that is missing. The file is a patch named "firefox-1.5-theme-change.patch". If I remove any references to this patch in the PKGBUILD, the package will then build. Also, the md5sums() array doesn't reflect the source() array number of elements: # abs [...] $ source /var/abs/extra/network/firefox/PKGBUILD $ echo ${#source[*]} 19 $ echo ${#md5sums[*]} 18 I'm pretty sure this mistake is linked to the missing patch mentioned above. Could someone have a look at this or do I have to file a bug ? Thanks, Gilles.

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[arch-general] packages in base
by Grigorios Bouzakis 11 Feb '08

11 Feb '08

Hi, i started playing with packages in base today, and the first two packages that come up in alphabetical order are acl and attr. I decided to research what those packages actually do, since i doubt i have ever used them. The site both packages link to is http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/. I am wondering if those packages are needed to a user not using the XFS filesystem and the reason acl is Required By : coreutils gettext libarchive vim. Any help on the subject, links etc. would be appreciated. Next thing i wanted to ask is if the bash-noinfo.patch in the bash package is indeed needed as the man page installs fine without it. PS. Can we get the Mailing List footer back? Greg

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[arch-general] [arch-announce] Kernel 2.6.24.1 in Core
by Roman Kyrylych 11 Feb '08

11 Feb '08

After a testing phase kernel 2.6.24.1 has been moved to Core where it replaces version 2.6.23.14. Some of the most visible changes for users include: * more mac80211-based wireless drivers added * tickless support for x86_64 * uvesafb; support for ATI Xpress 200M and Mac framebuffers * ACPI usage in libata * SATA port multipliers support * NCQ support on MCP51/MCP55/MCP61 chipsets (add 'swncq=1' to the kernel boot commandline) * SDIO support * ability to use any kernel version to resume a hibernated system * read-only --bind mounts * tons of bugfixes and improvements A detailed human-readable changelog is available at KernelNewbies Wiki: http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_2_6_24 Attention! The kernel26-2.6.24.1-2 package includes an important security fix (local user privilege escalation). Everyone is encouraged to upgrade, especially on a system with ssh accounts. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

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[arch-general] SSH. Can't open Xapps when su'ed to root
by Nigel Henry 10 Feb '08

10 Feb '08

I'm still looking at the jacman problem, and have sometimes found that apps that won't work on the machine they are installed on, will work if I ssh into the machine, and run them on another. IIRC I had problems initially using ssh when I installed Archlinux (don't panic), but found some info somewhere or other, as below. Comment out "ALL: ALL: DENY" line in /etc/hosts/deny Add sshd to /etc/rc.conf daemons list Run /etc/rc.d/sshd start Now I can ssh into archlinux (this is just local, not from the Internet). I have uncommented the following lines in /etc/ssh/sshd_config X11Forwarding yes X11DisplayOffset 10 I can open Xapps as user (gedit, jacman,etc), but not when I su to root, as below for gedit. [djmons@myhost ~]$ su Password: [root@myhost djmons]# gedit X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. cannot open display: Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options. [root@myhost djmons]# Same goes when I try to open jacman when su'ed to root. I tried accessing Xapps as root with Fedora 8, which is on the same machine as Archlinux, and they open ok. I have compared the sshd_config on both F8, and Archlinux, and can't see any apparent differences between the two. Anyone have any suggestions as to what may be the problem? All a bit puzzling. Nigel.

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[arch-general] problem with Firefox and Opera
by Scott Weisman 09 Feb '08

09 Feb '08

I did a system upgrade yesterday (Friday 8 Feb). The following (possibly relevant) packages were upgraded: mesa libgl xorg-server xf86-video-intel firefox After I did the upgrade, I shut down my box. When I restarted tonight, Firefox kept crashing, and giving this error message: The program 'gecko' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. (Details: serial 1625746 error_code 11 request_code 53 minor_code 0) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) Because it kept crashing, I tried Opera (which I use for testing and as a backup). It started, but returned this message (which I had never seen before): opera: X Shared memory extension is not available. ZPixmap not supported Because I am getting unusual errors in both browsers (and the errors are related), I think this is at a lower level. My system is a Core 2 Duo with 2GB RAM and 400MB swap (which is not used at the time Firefox crashes). Has anyone else experienced any of these problems? Does anyone have any suggestions? Scott

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[arch-general] X11 man pages
by marc[î1] 08 Feb '08

08 Feb '08

Hello, Arch devs put man pages in /usr/share/man like FHS want, ok. But FHS says : « Manual pages for X11R6 are stored in /usr/X11R6/man. It follows that all manual page hierarchies in the system must have the same structure as /usr/share/man. » http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#USRSHAREMANMANUALPAGES I don't understand FHS or ArchLinux should put X11 man page in /usr/X11R6/man ? Regards. -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + + (o< -! marc[i1] #363392 + + //\ http://archlinux.fr + + \\/_ Linux for Free Generation + + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +

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[arch-general] Fw: get pid of daemon in init script
by Michael Krauss 08 Feb '08

08 Feb '08

On 08/02/08, Dan McGee wrote: > Because you are calling pidof before the process starts- bash does not > do lazy evaluation of your expressions. > > If you want to store the PID of the newly started process, you will > have to make another PID=... call to get it in the else block where > you access it. Ohh, you are absolutely right. It is working now. I must get this damn Common Lisp out of my head before writing shell scripts next time. I will file a bug report on cups too. Thanks, Michael Krauss

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[arch-general] get pid of daemon in init script
by Michael Krauss 08 Feb '08

08 Feb '08

Hi to .* I must write a rc init script for a server I am packaging. Therefor I have copied the init script of cups. Now I recognized that both pid files, cups.pid and my own, in /var/run are empty. Further investigations have shown that "pidof -o %PPID -x /usr/bin/cdvserver" returns nothing in the start) case but in stop) it seems to work. I don't understand why pidof isn't working as expected. Kind Regards, Michael Krauss Here is my init script: #!/bin/bash . /etc/rc.conf . /etc/rc.d/functions PID=`pidof -o %PPID -x /usr/bin/cdvserver` PIDFILE="/var/run/cdvserver.pid" case "$1" in start) stat_busy "Starting Codeville Server" [ -z "$PID" ] && /usr/bin/cdvserver if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then stat_fail else echo "Started " $PID echo $PID > $PIDFILE add_daemon cdv stat_done fi ;; stop) stat_busy "Stopping Codeville Server" [ ! -z "$PID" ] && kill $PID &> /dev/null if [ $? -gt 0 ]; then stat_fail else rm $PIDFILE rm_daemon cdv stat_done fi ;; restart) $0 stop sleep 1 $0 start ;; *) echo "usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}" esac exit 0

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[arch-general] What should be done with octave?
by Neil Darlow 08 Feb '08

08 Feb '08

Hi, Arch has octave-2.1.73 in extra. The current stable version of octave is 3.0.0 but it is not backwards compatible with the 2.1.x series. The gcc-4.2.3 migration has broken octave due to a versioned dependency on gcc-fortran. Also, the PKGBUILD has no license or md5sum entries. The octave-2.1.73 PKGBUILD will need fixing but should it be updated to 3.0.0 and, if so, should a legacy octave2 package be created? I'm looking for opinions before I file any bug report. Regards, Neil Darlow

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[arch-general] mozilla /usr move
by Grigorios Bouzakis 08 Feb '08

08 Feb '08

On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 08:26:09PM +0100, Jan de Groot wrote: > Hi all, > > I've cleaned up testing a bit: > - moved xulrunner/seamonkey/firefox and friends to extra. This is part > of the /usr move Any idea why an /opt/mozilla/lib directory is still created by one of those packages? It doesnt seem to be part of any of these filelists. I wanted to ask this when the packages were still in testing but totally forgot to. Greg

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[arch-general] Jacman. Problem installing packages (don't panic)
by Nigel Henry 08 Feb '08

08 Feb '08

Jacman hasn't worked properly, as regards installing packages since I installed don't panic. Saying that I have been able to install the odd single package, that has no deps, but as of today, even installing single packages (alsaplayer as an example) fails. Jacman opens ok, and I click on "Install Packages", and that's ok, but when I select a package to install, and click on "Install", a window, like a terminal (CLI) (dialog window) opens. As soon as this window opens, the CPU hits 100%. The output in this console says: resolving dependencies looking for inter-conflicts and in red proceed with installation? [Y/n] The bottom of the console window has "Done", "Yes", and "No" boxes, but none are highlighted. As I've said, on the odd occasion I have been able to install a single package, and in this case the Yes, and No boxes have been highlighted, and the Done box is highlighted when the package is installed. Before I post a bug report for Jacman, has anyone any suggestions? Nigel.

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[arch-general] Scanner only works as root
by Renan Birck 06 Feb '08

06 Feb '08

Hello, I have an HP Photosmart C3180 all-in-one (printer/scanner/copier). Installed cups, hplip, sane. Printing works. Scanning, however, only works as root, otherwise xsane says that there are no devices. But if I chmod 777 -R /dev/bus/usb/* it works for my current user; therefore I deduce it is a permission problem. This looks like an udev problem, however my udev knowledge is next to null. What steps could I take to solve this problem? I would like to get rid of this ugly hack. Thanks. -- Renan Birck ~ Canoas, RS, Brasil "Quando tudo que você tem é um martelo, todos os seus problemas se parecem com os seus dedões."

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[arch-general] Arch Linux Amazon EC2 images
by Jason Chu 05 Feb '08

05 Feb '08

Hey everyone, At work we're moving over to using Amazon EC2 and since we use arch for development, I've created arch images for everyone to be able to benefit from. Each one is labelled based on the date it was created. They are bare bones. The two ami names are 32bit: ami-3132d758 64bit: ami-903edbf9 Have fun with them! Jason

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[arch-general] [mirror] mirror sync and reachability issues
by Dan McGee 04 Feb '08

04 Feb '08

We currently have a rash of mirror-related bugs that I wanted to draw your attention to, most of which have been filed on the pacman project. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9390 [Mirror] tu.chemnitz.de http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9391 [Mirror] ftp.nethat.com http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9392 [Mirror] archlinux.org.ru http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9393 [Mirror] ftp.icm.edu.pl http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9394 [Mirror] ftp.linux.kiev.ua http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9439 [Mirror-sync] ftp.nluug.nl, ftp.surfnet.nl I'm sending this to the dev & general lists to reach a broader audience and hopefully those who may know these mirror maintainers to see what is up. I've commented on most of the bugs with the actions I took with regards to the pacman mirrorlist, but there are others that may need to take action as well. 9439 sticks out as rather big as it is two of our mirrors in the Netherlands, so I'd appreciate any feedback on that one. Thanks a lot to Gerhard Brauer for looking into all our mirrors and finding those that are out of date or unreachable. -Dan

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[arch-general] gcc-gcj, webplugin and java.security package
by Ondřej Kučera 03 Feb '08

03 Feb '08

Hello, I'm trying to make a certain applet (which is inside an internal company information system so unfortunately I can't provide a link) working on x86_64. I tried libgcjwebplugin from gcc-gcj and it starts loading the applet but then it prints the following error to stdout (and the applet doesn't work): java.io.FileNotFoundException: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0/jre/lib/security/cacerts (No such file or directory) I think that this is quite weird, I thought that there would be a problem that the applet uses some Java features that aren't yet implemented in gcj/gnu classpath, but this seems to say that it just looks for some certificates in a really strange place - which could be a bug of gcj or a bug in the way how it's packaged in ArchLinux, I have no idea what is the case here. But anyway if I do "pacman -Ql gcc-gcj" the paths look very different from this one. If i try "locate cacerts" I get /opt/java/jre/lib/security/cacerts which of course belongs to jre package. So, does anyone have a clue if this might have some solution? I also attached the whole stacktrace if that could help. -- Cheers, Ondřej

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] man-pages 2.77-1
by Grigorios Bouzakis 02 Feb '08

02 Feb '08

On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 03:59:19PM +0100, Andreas Radke wrote: > for arches in testing. please signoff. it uses the new location in > /usr/share/man. > > -Andy > is this bug report valid? http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9440

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[arch-general] Java applets in Arch64
by Ondřej Kučera 02 Feb '08

02 Feb '08

Hello, I need to be able to use java applets on my Arch64 box. From what I found on the wiki (http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch64_FAQ) it should work out of the box in Konqueror but unfortunately it isn't the case for me. I tried the following two pages containing applets, neither seems to work. http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/deployment/applet/getStarted.html http://www.gnu.org/software/classpath/ I do have the java packages (both jre and jdk), I have java enabled in Konqueror, I'm not sure if I'm supposed to do something else. Truth to be told the best solution would be to have applets working in Firefox since since I need them working in an intranet web application that is not exactly 100% compatible with Konqueror, I'm afraid. Is there a working solution for Firefox? -- Cheers, Ondřej

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[arch-general] Problem Reporting Question
by Kevin Monceaux 01 Feb '08

01 Feb '08

Fellow Arch Enthusiasts, I noticed a problem with the ruby-python package in aur/community and added a comment to it. But, then I started wondering if I should have have flagged it as out of date or filed a bug instead. So, I thought I'd ask for future reference. The package isn't exactly out of date. It's built against the current version of the available sources according to the project's web site, although the sources don't appear to have been updated since 2005. The postgres.so library file included in the ruby-postgres binary package is linked against libpq.so.4. The current postgresql-libs package contains libpq.so.5, so the package just needs to be rebuilt to link against the current libs. Also, I got an error trying to download the source tarball from the source URL in the PKGBUILD file. The source tarball is available via the package's main website. Does Arch have a utility similar to Gentoo's revdep-rebuild utility that scans all the libraries/binaries on the system for missing dependencies? Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!!

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[arch-general] Domain: archlinux.eu
by Volker Glatz 01 Feb '08

01 Feb '08

Hi there, I'm the owner of the domain www.archlinux.eu. I registered this domain in the sunrise period of dot-eu to avoid commercial usage or something else. Actually there is a redirection to archlinux.org. If the archlinux project is interested in this domain I'd like to spend it to the project. But if you think it is a good contribution to give my part back to the project I'm also willing to hold the domain anymore on my costs. If there is absolutely no interest in it, I'll give it free. Volker

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[arch-general] Name change on crypto modules for kernel26-2.6.24?
by Neil Darlow 01 Feb '08

01 Feb '08

Hi, I run encrypted swap on my i686 system and thought I would give kernel26-2.6.24 a try. During the encrypted swap setup phase of boot I noticed a couple of errors relating to loading of the aes and sha256 crypto modules. Too me, it looks like these modules have undergone a name change in 2.6.24. I think the required modules are actually being loaded but cryptsetup complains about missing modules. I don't see an updated cryptsetup in testing. Should there be one or am I way off-base here? Regards, Neil Darlow

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[arch-general] Newbie Build xine-lib-1.1.10-1
by JaDa 01 Feb '08

01 Feb '08

Here is my first Archlinux Package Build for i686 xine-lib-1.1.10-1 http://files.myopera.com/Jada0007/arch/xine-lib-1.1.10-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz well I think it is not perfect but someone can check it out too. Then how will be my tutor for the next few weeks? Teaching me a little how to build and work for Archlinux. Thx JaDa -- Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot.

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[arch-general] man pages and utf8
by Grigorios Bouzakis 31 Jan '08

31 Jan '08

Regarding the discussion going on in arch-dev-public about changes in man and utf8 compliance. As far as i remember Roman's feature request [1] wasnt even mentioned. At least not recently. Are there any thoughts of replacing man with man-db? Or the recent chamges in man and groff make this FR invalid? [1]http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/9130

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[arch-general] Mirror out of sync [tu.chemnitz.de]
by Gerhard Brauer 30 Jan '08

30 Jan '08

Hello, One german mirror, tu.chemnitz.de, is not synced since 12.12.2007. Bye Gerhard -- Bundestrojaner - wir sind die Guten! Nur echt mit 52 Verfassungsbruechen!

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[arch-general] Qjackctl won't open since latest updates
by Nigel Henry 29 Jan '08

29 Jan '08

I've had Archlinux "Don't Panic" installed for a while. I installed it because someone on another list was having problems with their hda intel soundcard, and I wanted to see what was required to upgrade the Alsa driver on Archlinux. It seems to be a nice stable distro, pacman, which I havn't used before, installs the downloaded packages very quickly. Downloading them, as always takes a while, as I'm on dialup. Anyway. The problem since the latest updates. Qjackctl was working ok, but since updates I did last night, it now fails to start. See below for the updated packages. [root@myhost djmons]# pacman -Su :: Starting full system upgrade... warning: opera: forcing upgrade to version 9.25-2 resolving dependencies... warning: dependency cycle detected: warning: xorg-server will be installed before its catalyst-utils dependency looking for inter-conflicts... Targets: readline-5.2-7 jack-audio-connection-kit-0.109.0-1 kde-common-3.5.8-3 qt3-3.3.8-6.1 arts-1.5.8-2 avahi-0.6.20-3 xorg-server-1.4.0.90-5 catalyst-utils-8.01-1 dbus-qt3-0.62-3 e2fsprogs-1.40.4-1 x264-20071202-1 ffmpeg-20071204-1 hwd-5.3.2-1 pcre-7.5-1 kdelibs-3.5.8-4 kdebase-3.5.8-3 qscintilla-qt3-1.7.1-2 kdebindings-3.5.8-2 poppler-qt3-0.6.3-1 kdegraphics-3.5.8-3 lvm2-2.02.31-1 mplayer-1.0rc2-2.1 opera-9.25-2 qt-4.3.3-4 poppler-qt-0.6.3-1 python-2.5.1-5 pygobject-2.14.1-1 pygtk-2.12.1-1 qca-2.0.0.svn744387-1.1 qca-qt3-1.0-1 qca-tls-1.0-5 qjackctl-0.3.2-1 qscintilla-2.1-3 libx86-0.99-1 vbetool-1.0-2 vi-7.1.228-1 which-2.19-2 wpa_supplicant-0.5.9-1 Total Download Size: 170.33 MB After these updates Qjackctl would not start from the KDE desktop launcher, and see below for output when trying to start it on the CLI. [djmons@myhost ~]$ qjackctl qjackctl: error while loading shared libraries: libaudio.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [djmons@myhost ~]$ It's true that there's no such library as libaudio.so.2, at least I can't find one. I have run pacman -Sy, and -Su this evening, and no further updates are available. Should I just wait a bit, and see if this problem is resolved, or post a bug report? Personally I don't see it as a bug, but more to do with Qjackctl being upgraded, and the upgraded version needing a library not yet available. Comments as always welcome. Nigel.

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[arch-general] out-of-date python-cheetah, python-formencode
by adam 29 Jan '08

29 Jan '08

python-formencode-0.9 is in AUR as it was needed in order to build a package depending on it. The old version still exists in supported branch but would like to have it replaced/upgraded with my PKGBUILD. python-cheetah is one release old as the package was placed a month prior to the next release. These packages haven't be updated in awhile I do not believe Thanks

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[arch-general] New User(sort of) and a packaging question
by Kevin Monceaux 29 Jan '08

29 Jan '08

Fellow Arch Enthusiasts, I discovered Arch about a year ago, and loved it. I played around with it under VMware for a while, and even created a couple of packages for myself. At the time my hard drive really needed some reorganization/repartitioning before switching to another distribution. But, my DVD burner was acting flaky. Anyway, one year later with a second hard drive installed, and with a new DVD burner on order, I've made the switch to Arch, after trying a few other distros along the way. I can't find the packages I created back when I first started using Arch. At some point I ended up deleting the VMware image to free up some space and neglected to copy the packages. Anyway, I've created a package for c3270. I found an x3270 package but prefer the text console version. Is there a utility that can be used to help set the package's dependencies? I found a few mentions of namcap on the wiki. I tried it on the package I created, which I don't currently have any dependencies listed in, and the only problems it reports are missing maintainer and CVS id tags. It mentions nothing about the missing dependencies. By the way, What does the name namcap stand for? Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!!

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[arch-general] blurry fonts at Qt4 apps
by Maik Beckmann 29 Jan '08

29 Jan '08

Hello I did send the follwing to the kde and qt mailing list: <my message> I have an issue with the fonts off apps which are based on Qt4. This png http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gtkkde3kde4qt4za7.png shows the "File" menubar entry at (left to right): gtk+ - kde3 - kde4 - Qt4 apps. As you see the fonts of gtk and kde3 are same. The kde4 and qt4 fonts are the same too. Please focus on the "F"s in "File". The "F" of gtk/kde3 are plain lines, since no curves are involved. The "F" pf kde4/qt4 has something like shadows, which results in a blurry look. Currently I'm running arch-linux, but I saw the behavior on previous gentoo and debian installations when I played with qt4. The screenshots which are placed at the kde4 programming tutorials show that there must be a way do make the fonts in kde4 behave like those in kde3 http://techbase.kde.org/images/a/a3/Introtokdetutorial3.png Just zoom and pan to "File" and compare with the screenshot I provided. My $HOME/.fonts.conf is attached. The font I'm using is Bitstream Vera Sans </my message> The mentioned files are attached to this email too. James Richard Tyrer answered: <answer> > This is interesting. > > If you simply showed these to me without any context, I would say that > the first two (left to right) are hinted for screen display and the > second two are unhinted for WYSIWYG printing. > > KDE-3 and Qt-3 always did fonts as screen hinted which is why some > applications (e.g. KWord) had font printing issues. Since Qt-4 can do > it either way, KDE-4 needs to decide which way that the fonts should be > rendered. So, this would appear to be a bug -- the GUI should always be > screen hinted. </answer> So Qt4 apps maybe do silently the wrong type of font rendering. If you know about this and how to fix it on arch, please share your knowledge. Since there are configuration which are not hit by this (obviously James has one) I would like to ask you're to test if your installtion handles fonts on qt3 and qt4 apps the same way or not. To do so start the i.e kwrite(the kde3 version) and qtconfig (which is a Qt4 app). Pan the "File" entry of qtconfig's menubar to the right of the "File" entry of kwrite's menubar. Now take a screenshot (I used GIMP) and zoom into the "File" - "File" area. To make your results comparable to mine, please chose Bitstream Vera Sans as toolbar font. Thanks in advance, -- Maik

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[arch-general] Strange stuff in kernel26-2.6.24-2
by Karolina Lindqvist 28 Jan '08

28 Jan '08

There is some strange stuff going on in the newest kernel. i.e. it did not work, so I had to go back to the previous one. First it booted, but then console escape characters (colour) did not work, and sound with snd_via82xx did not either. Then when I rebooted, it crashes every time in the udev/usb code. I have AMD i686 with VIA chipset. I see that it is in testing, so maybe it should remain there.

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[arch-general] Searching reference server for mirror checking
by Gerhard Brauer 28 Jan '08

28 Jan '08

Hello, i'm working on a script to check the sync status of the mirrors. Actually i use ftp.archlinux.org as a reference but Pierre Schmitz point to me that this is also only a mirror which must not be in sync. So is there a server (ftp or http) from where i could get the mtime, size and the repository db file as a reference? Pierre told me that he could run this script on his server, but for testing and bugfixing ;-) i need a reliable source. At the moment it seems i got too many false positives... Gerhard -- Never use a running system...

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[arch-general] Appletouch/Synaptics on MacBook 3,1
by CiM-9 27 Jan '08

27 Jan '08

Hy there. I'm using since a few days Arch Linux on my MacBook 3.1. I'd like to use the advanced features of the Synaptics-XOrg-Driver, but I can't. Reason: appletouch identification changed from MacBook 3 to MacBook 3.1. The gentoo-wiki (http://gentoo-wiki.com/Macbook#Touchpad) provides a patch to fix this issue, but I just don't know how to apply this. I'd be realy glad about some help. Regards, Chris

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[arch-general] Who is confused, pacman or me?
by Neil Darlow 26 Jan '08

26 Jan '08

Hi, I did a pacman -Syu this morning and it warned me that: local etracer-0.35-6 is newer than etracer-0.4-1 I'm not sure how that came about. Is this a pacman or pkgbuild problem? My system is i686. Regards, Neil Darlow

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[arch-general] ghc x86_64 missing OpenGL?
by sam lee 25 Jan '08

25 Jan '08

Hi. >From the web page of ghc package, http://archlinux.org/packages/search/?q=ghc, it does include OpenGL bindings. However, on x86_64, ghc has different maintainer and it seems to use different PKGBUILD. Is this intentional? Any plans for including all of extralibs (which includes OpenGL bindings) into ghc package for x86_64 ? Or, make ghc-extralibs as a separate package? Thank you. Sam Lee.

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[arch-general] Repo Filename Search?
by Kevin Monceaux 25 Jan '08

25 Jan '08

Arch Enthusiasts, Does Arch Linux have a utility to search for packages that provide a particular file? I came across qfile via the wiki and tried it but can't seem to get it to work. Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!!

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[arch-general] makepkg not stripping bin/libs
by Mark Constable 24 Jan '08

24 Jan '08

makegpkg 3.1.1 line ~752 has this... find {,usr/{,local/},opt/}{bin,lib,sbin} -type f and I can't see how that will ever work, and it doesn't for me, however this does work (for me)... find -regex ".+/bin/.+" -o -regex ".+/lib/.+" -o -regex ".+/sbin/.+" -type f I recently rebuilt kdemod4 and it ended up being 1.9Gb whereas it should have been around >400Mb. --markc

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[arch-general] Pacman-3.1.1-1 not reading 'provides' field
by Ravi Desai 24 Jan '08

24 Jan '08

Hey, I'm using pacman-3.1.1-1 from testing, and have installed kdemod-4.0. I'm not able to install lyx since lyx requires qt and asks for qtmod to be removed. However, 'pacman -Qi qtmod' has the following --- Provides : qt 4.3.3 --- How do I solve this problem? Is it a bug? Should I file a bug report? I looked at bugs.archlinux.org, but couldn't find anything similar. Thanks, Ravster

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Updating 'man'
by Grigorios Bouzakis 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 11:19:19AM -0600, Aaron Griffin wrote: > > LESSCHARSET > > But that only affects less, and not man pages. It's a fine line, but I > know at least a few people that don't use less as their MANPAGER Those people should. If color is the reason for using most, see http://nion.modprobe.de/blog/archives/572-less-colors-for-man-pages.html I have added that to the Wiki too: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Post_Installation_Tips#Getting_a_colore… Less is much more powerful than most. Greg

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[arch-general] Does pacman support "noarch" now?
by 甘露 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

All fonts do not need a "i686" or "x86_64" option but in my memory pacman doesn't support noarch, which makes PKGBUILDs for fonts unable to compile without a unnecessary line. Thanks.

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[arch-general] makepkg running as root
by richard terry 23 Jan '08

23 Jan '08

Sometimes I build packages from AUR, and (obviously wrongly), do this as root. Today I got this message: ==> ERROR: Running makepkg as root is a BAD idea and can cause permanent, catastrophic damage to your system. If you wish to run as root, please use the --asroot option. Can someone explain. Richard

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[arch-general] makepkg running as root
by richard terry 22 Jan '08

22 Jan '08

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:42:10 pm you wrote: > On Jan 21, 2008 9:33 PM, richard terry <rterry(a)gnumed.net> wrote: > > Sometimes I build packages from AUR, and (obviously wrongly), do this as > > root. > > > > Today I got this message: > > > > ==> ERROR: Running makepkg as root is a BAD idea and can cause > > permanent, catastrophic damage to your system. If you > > wish to run as root, please use the --asroot option. > > > > Can someone explain. > > What's to explain that that message didn't already explain? Just what it could do to your system. See the attatched PKGBUILD (which I adapted from an old one in AuR) I tried to compile it as myself, and it crashed at the end of the build, (sorry didn't keep messages), saying something about not being able to write to some directory or other (ok, so I'm not a geek!!!). When I re-built it as root it worked fine. BTW, could you/someone checkout this PKGBUILD file and tell me what's wrong with the way I've adapted it (I'm assuming its not correct, though it works as I did it with no understanding of what I'm doing. Thanks. Richard

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[arch-general] Qt3 path setting, is it right?
by Neil Darlow 22 Jan '08

22 Jan '08

Hi, I've been building bouml (from AUR) successfully until Qt4 arrived. Examining the build failure it appears that although QTDIR is correctly set for Qt3, the placement of QTDIR/bin at the end of PATH in qt3.sh results in Qt4's qmake taking precedence over that of Qt3. For bouml's build mechanism (no ./configure involved) this leads to qmake-generated files containing resource paths of Qt4. I've managed to get the build to work by placing QTDIR/bin at the head of PATH, using a sed command, but it's seems hackish to me. Is the sourcing of qt3.sh from /etc/profile.d a sensible idea? Would it be better provided as part of the qt3 package and sourced into the PKGBUILD's environment directly? And, surely, placing QTDIR/bin at the end of PATH is not a good idea? Regards, Neil Darlow

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[arch-general] KDE4 Anyone?
by Rodrigo Coacci 21 Jan '08

21 Jan '08

So have anyone got up and running with KDE4 on Arch? I know about kdemod testing, but they miss some dependencies (tapioca-qt, strigi...), so to do those by hand i'd prefer to do all myself :-P Also, any ideas on when we'll get KDE4 on extra or even testing? -- Cheers Rodrigo A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows. ~Linus Torvalds

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[arch-general] question about vlc package
by François Charette 18 Jan '08

18 Jan '08

Today I needed to look at a video stream (with firefox) that required the vlc mozilla plugin. So I installed the vlc package but was surprised that it does not provide the plugin. The latter is in AUR/unsupported (as vlc-plugin) and requires building the whole beast just to have that one little .so file. Being a TU I could move vlc-plugin to community, but I first wanted to ask whether there is any compelling reason for not providing it with the vlc package in the first place? Thanks, F

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[arch-general] Subversion error?
by Loui 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

Hello! I don't know if this should go in flyspray because I'm using testing pkgs and such so I'll just write here. I think subversion needs to be rebuilt to link to the new Perl. I get an error when using git-svn /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/current/i686-linux-thread-multi/auto/SVN/_Core/_Core.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Tstack_sp_ptr I built 1.4.6 it myself and it got past that error but I hit another one: Bad URL passed to RA layer: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://brlcad.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/brlcad/brlcad' at /usr/bin/git-svn line 1043 I also removed subversion-neon.patch because a hunk failed... maybe it was needed? I don't know. I admit I don't really know what's going on. Can someone smarter than me help me out? Thanks!

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[arch-general] arch32 -> arch64 migration without reinstalling
by bardo 17 Jan '08

17 Jan '08

Since I've already got a 32bit laptop, I was thinking of migrating my Core 2 Duo to arch64 (as a TU it would be really helpful for building new packages and helping the other packagers). Now, this desktop is my main system, so I'm not really happy with the idea of reinstalling and reconfiguring everything (given that, at this time, I have more than 1700 installed packages). So here's the idea: is it crazy to dump the package list, boot from a cd, change my mirrors in x86_64, change pacman's installation root to my mounted disks, reinstall the world and then check for *.pac*? Is there any risk I can't see in doing this? Thanks, Corrado

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[arch-general] FreeNX issues
by Sergey Manucharian 16 Jan '08

16 Jan '08

Hi, Yesterday I've installed FeeNX for the first time. First of all I've found that "nxloadconfig" sets in LD_PRELOAD a path to libXrender.so.1.2, but the actual library is libXrender.so.1.2.2 and there is no corresponding link. Ok, this issue is fixed simply (but it's a bug, right?). Now when I run nxclient and get the remote desktop (xfce), I cannot run some programs, e.g. mc, mplayer - they just crash with segfault. Could somebody give me the direction to fix it? Any ideas? Thanks. Cheers, Sergey

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Arch Schwag
by Jaroslaw Swierczynski 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

They do ship to Europe but I'm not satisfied with their product quality. I bought a mug and a baseball jersey. While the mug is great, the printings on the jersey are poor and I would expect more from the material. -- Jaroslaw Swierczynski <swiergot(a)gmail.com> www.archlinux.org | www.juvepoland.com

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[arch-general] [translation] String freeze for pacman 3.1.1 release
by Dan McGee 15 Jan '08

15 Jan '08

We've weeded out a handful of bugs and issues since 3.1.0, so it is time to call for a string freeze for 3.1.1. I've CC-ed this to the Arch General list to see if we can get a helping hand with some of our currently neglected translations. As this list may not be quite as familiar with how everything works, PLEASE reply to the list or privately to me if you have questions or want to help out but are not sure how. Our pacman translation policy is outlined here. The important sections for translators are the introduction and up to (and including) pre-release updates. http://www.archlinux.org/pacman/translation-help.html As stated in the above document, PO files have been made available to translate: http://code.toofishes.net/pacman/po_files/ I would like to get the release out within the next 7 days, so the sooner the better for the translations. Languages we currently have: cs_CZ: Handled by Vojtěch Gondžala <vogo(a)seznam.cz> de: handled by Matthias Gorissen <matthias(a)archlinux.de> en_GB: Handled by Jeff Bailes <thepizzaking(a)gmail.com> es: status unknown, no current translator fr: Handled by Chantry Xavier <shiningxc(a)gmail.com> hu: Handled by Nagy Gabor <ngaba(a)bibl.u-szeged.hu> it: Handled by Giovanni Scafora <linuxmania(a)gmail.com> pl_PL: Work in progress by Mateusz Jedrasik <m.jedrasik(a)gmail.com> pt_BR: status unknown, no current translator ru_RU: status unknown, no current translator If you wish to help translate, but your language is already listed as handled by someone, please contact them at the above addresses. If the language is listed as "no current translator", then please reply to ALL on this message stating you are doing the translation so we do not have duplicated effort (although you are more than welcome to work in teams). Once you have updated or completed a translation, simply tar and gzip the files up and send them back to pacman-dev(a)archlinux.org with a [translation] prefix in the message. For those that are used to the old method of updating translations (GIT patches), those are still acceptable as well. Please prefix the patch with "translation:" so it can be picked out easily. HOWEVER, if at all possible, please do not needlessly update the line numbers in the code! It makes it much easier to see which translations have been changed and updated if line number changes are not 90% of the patch. The "translations" branch is located in my GIT repo; one of the following things will probably be of help. http://code.toofishes.net/gitweb.cgi?p=pacman.git;a=shortlog;h=translations git remote add dan http://code.toofishes.net/gitprojects/pacman.git git checkout -b translations dan/translations -Dan

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[arch-general] New web page
by Carl Mueller 14 Jan '08

14 Jan '08

The new web page looks great! Congratulations to all involved. Carl Mueller

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[arch-general] Weird makepkg problem
by David Rosenstrauch 11 Jan '08

11 Jan '08

Hi. I'm the maintainer for the todotxt package in the AUR (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?do_Details=1&ID=7673) While I was trying to update the PKGBUILD today, something really peculiar happened. The todotxt source gets downloaded in a zip file format. But instead of unzipping the zip file to the src directory, for some reason makepkg is *copying* the zip to the src directory. Consequently, the PKGBUILD can't find the files it needs and fails. Anybody know what caused this (it wasn't always this way, as I've been maintaining this package for over a year now) and how to fix it? TIA, DR

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[arch-general] libdts + fglrx questions
by richard terry 10 Jan '08

10 Jan '08

Every time I upgrade I get: ?replace libdts with libdca, and replace fglrx with catalyst. What's the difference, is it safe to say yes (especially to the video driver)? Thanks

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[arch-general] Problem with latest KDE update in testing
by Karolina Lindqvist 10 Jan '08

10 Jan '08

Am I the only one who got problems after the latest KDE update (from testing)? I got crashes in nspluginviewer all the time. I solved it by building a new version of kdelibs/kdebase from CVS, which appears to have some bug-fixes. Karolina

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[arch-general] Comment box in flag package Out-of-date
by Karolina Lindqvist 09 Jan '08

09 Jan '08

Is it possible to make the box for comment, in the flag package out-of-date, a little bit bigger? As it is now, it is hard to see what you write, if you want to explain your findings.

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[arch-general] famd problems
by _saiko 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

Famd has always been more problematic then useful for me. On random occasions after i plugged a mp3 player or an external usb drive it would just start using cpu @ 100% and there was no change at all. I had to kill the process. Just now i plugged my USB drive and wanted to copy something. CPU usage was 100% and iostat reported <3MB/s rate non sequential! I checked the processes and as expected ntfs-3g driver was using most but famd was there too! So i nicely killed famd once again... and transfer rate went @ ~22MB/s as expected Is there a way to live without famd since all it brings are problems for me? It's required by many things so i can't just remove it. I'm doing a regular -Syu and this problem was present ... since like forever Any explanation to this? Also i'm using xfce, 2GB ram, separate physical system drive Many thanks

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [extra signoff] nvidia/nvidia-utils 169.07
by Jesse Young 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 09:11:34 +0100, Thomas Bächler wrote: > I added new nvidia drivers 169.07 for i686 and x86_64 to testing. My > nvidia machine is out of order for now, so please sign off both > architectures and as many GPUs as possible. > > I am also interested in signoffs from users, so please don't hesitate to > reply to this message to the arch-general list! > everything looks fine on i686, except for this error on upgrade, I don't know how pacman lost track of it, unless I was installinng my own nvidia* a long time ago. nvidia-utils: /usr/lib/libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.so.1 exists in filesystem lspci: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Status Report: 2008-01-07
by Loui 08 Jan '08

08 Jan '08

On Jan 7, 2008 11:39 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > * ArchCon 2009: Big Baaad Idea > > This is staying right here until someone decides to come to Chicago to visit 8) > No, the US is not dangerous! Hah. Chicago sounds good to me. :D

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[arch-general] forcing speed/duplex on Intel e1000 driver
by Chuck Remes 07 Jan '08

07 Jan '08

A service provider has forced all of their switch ports to 100/full. I need to do the same on a box running archlinux x86_64 w/kernel 2.6.22- ARCH and the Intel e1000 driver. I edited /etc/modprobe.conf to contain these lines: e1000 Speed=100,100,100,100 e1000 Duplex=2,2,2,2 However, the messages in /var/log/kernel.log indicate the interfaces are still coming up as 100/half which implies they are still attempting to autonegotiate and failing therefore defaulting to 100 (which can be sensed) and half-duplex (which can't be sensed, so this is the default). What's the best way to force the driver into 100/full on boot?

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[arch-general] iwlwifi in [testing] feedback
by Tobias Powalowski 05 Jan '08

05 Jan '08

Hi just wanted to know if some user already tested the iwlwifi driver from [testing], if it works for you. thanks for feedback greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] should ecj say like this
by Karolina Lindqvist 03 Jan '08

03 Jan '08

Look at this: $ ecj Unrecognized option : /usr/share/java/libgcj-4.2.jar I am not able to get any other respone from ecj, as intalled from the binary i686 distribution. Does it say the same for everone else? Is it supposed to say this? Karolina

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[arch-general] Depends loop in gcc-gcj and eclipse-ecj
by Karolina Lindqvist 01 Jan '08

01 Jan '08

gcc-gcj depends on eclipse-ecj which depends on gcc-gcj, making a dependency loop.

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[arch-general] Advanced pacman dependency functions
by bardo 30 Dec '07

30 Dec '07

Hi all. I was looking for a way to do a couple of things with pacman that may be useful, mainly for package maintainers. Maybe they can already be done and I just didn't find out how. I used to use pt-deptree, but it hasn't been working for quite some time now. The first one is finding all the packages that directly depend on a specific package, even if they're not installed. This came to my mind considering those upgrades which break other software, like x264 and tcl/tk (8.5 has just been released): it could be a lot easier to test if all packages work properly with the new version or if it is necessary to rebuild them. Second, I often find myself looking for package dependencies along the tree, because I need to know, given two packages, if one of the two depends on the other or not. This is good when I'm deciding which dependencies should be put in a package, becuase the cycle edit-makepkg-namcap is sometimes impractical when the package has a lot of dependencies. Is anybody able to help? TIA, Corrado

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[arch-general] azureus and avidemux, a note
by Alexandros K-K 28 Dec '07

28 Dec '07

azureus hasnt been updated for ages: the version on the repos is 3.0.1.6 and the newest one is 3.0.4.2 it has been flagged as out of date for quite a long time too avidemux on the other hand still lists spidermonkey as a dependency, maybe other unecessary stuff too http://www.avidemux.org/admWiki/index.php?title=Compiling_Avidemux#Mandator… cheerio, aeolist

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[arch-general] IRC Spammer / Impersonator
by Matthew 28 Dec '07

28 Dec '07

This morning I was informed by a TU via Private Message on IRC that there were spammer impersonating me. He first ask what happened last night and as I had no idea what he was talking about this was when I first discovered what happened. There are some wonderful people (for lack of a nicer term) who think its funny to impersonate me and spam the channel. My hostname is almost always adsl-75-33-32-137.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net very rarely do I connect to IRC using a different net connection (usually just ssh into my home box). The ip is dynamic so it will change, but it should match with mezoko.net I think these spammers are ajnewbold and impl. They helped me out with some php coding about a year ago. They were nice people, but they slowly started pull crap on me and I didn't put up with so I think this their revenge. **Ajnewbold and impl (he was under the alias of "hary" something, I don't remember) spammed the channel about a week ago so I'm not sure if they'll stop, hence the reason for this posting. So basically I want to clear up a few things 1. The spammers last night were not me 2. If username mezoko does not have a host name similar to dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net there is a good chance it is not me 3. To any TU/OP/Dev please do not ban my user name from IRC, please ban the hostname if the problem arises again. Thank you all for your understanding, -Mezoko

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[arch-general] problem compiling for i586 with new makepkg
by Karolina Lindqvist 26 Dec '07

26 Dec '07

There is a problem with compiling with CHOST="i586" with the new pacman/makepkg. It simply refuses with the message: pkgname is not available for the 'i586' architecture. Note that many packages may need a line added to their PKGBUILD such as arch=('i586'). To edit each and every PKGBUILD for each and every package and every update appears like quite a big work. And since I could not find any option to turn that "feature" off, or any hook to SED it in, I just commented it out in makepkg. What was the thought with this? The -w option is also taken away from makepkg. Why? (I found the alternate solution, but still) Karolina

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[arch-general] xkeyboard-config 1.1-1
by Grigorios Bouzakis 25 Dec '07

25 Dec '07

Since todays update of xkeyboard-config 1.1-1 i have been getting some errors like the following: expected keysym, got XF86KbdLightOnOff: line 70 of pc expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessDown: line 71 of pc expected keysym, got XF86KbdBrightnessUp: line 72 of pc As a result leds arent working & probably some other stuff i havent noticed yet. Anyone noticed similar behaviour? Greg

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[arch-general] texlive-bin depends on xorg-server, why?
by Dan Soendergaard 24 Dec '07

24 Dec '07

Dear Archers, This is the first time I use a mailing list, please bare over with me in case of any strange behaviour on my part (I've already mailed this message to the wrong address once, sorry!). I discovered that texlive-bin depends on the xorg-server package which seems strange for a terminal programme. Why this dependency and how can it be removed (if possible without breaking LaTeX)? I ask because I'm installing an Archlinux server and want the possibility of compiling my documents through SSH no matter what computer I'm on. Is it possible to circumvent the installation of xorg-server? Sincerely, Dan Sondergaard

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[arch-general] Problem connecting Sansa e250 with Arch
by Mordechai Peller 23 Dec '07

23 Dec '07

The Sansa e200 series can connect either via MTP or MSC. With the help of libmtp I can connect via MTP, but I need to be able to connect via MSC.When I booted an Ubuntu 7.10 LiveCD it worked fine, so the problem is with Arch, or at least my install of it. I suspect it's a udev or driver issue, but I'm not sure. Thanks

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[arch-general] Kernel OOPS with AVM fwlanusb
by Gerhard Brauer 22 Dec '07

22 Dec '07

Hello, i have a AVM wlan usb stick for testing, usb id 057C:6201. I try the avm linux driver with kernel 2.6.23.12-2. Build and modprobe is ok, inserting the stick gaves after a long period of waiting the wlan0 device. iwpriv wlan0 work, iwconfig stopped with a segfault and a oops. I'm not a kernel guru or developer, but maybe could someone say (without a full dump or so) what the reason for this trap? (Yeah, i know the short answer: tainted by fwlanusb ;-) If @tpowa reads this: if see strcopy in trap, could this be something similar we have had with avm fritz card and the objcopy-Patches? Thank you for having a look at this! Legend: 14:33:10 after modprobe and wlan0 ready 14:33:45 iwconfig ------------- Dec 22 14:33:10 tux1 fwlanusb: Config manager successully created and started. Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 printing eip: Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 f8d9c38e Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 *pde = 00000000 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 Oops: 0000 [#1] Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 PREEMPT SMP Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 Modules linked in: fwlanusb(P) usb_storage ide_core appletalk ipx p8022 psnap llc p8023 nvidia(P) ipv6 usblp usbhid hid ff_memless ppdev tsdev lp pcspkr container parport_pc parport rtc_cmos rtc_core rtc_lib ppp_generic psmouse serio_raw i2c_i801 i2c_core ehci_hcd intel_agp agpgart uhci_hcd shpchp pci_hotplug sg evdev thermal processor fan button battery ac smsc47m1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_seq_device snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm snd_timer snd_page_alloc snd_mixer_oss snd soundcore ac97_bus slhc eepro100 e100 mii usbcore ext3 jbd mbcache sr_mod cdrom sd_mod ata_piix ata_generic libata Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 CPU: 0 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 EIP: 0060:[<f8d9c38e>] Tainted: P VLI Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 EFLAGS: 00210282 (2.6.23-ARCH #1) Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 EIP is at strcpy+0xd/0x1b [fwlanusb] Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 eax: f1cc1f44 ebx: ffffffa1 ecx: f1cc1f44 edx: f8de351e Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 esi: 00000000 edi: c035b984 ebp: c038602c esp: f1cc1e54 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 ds: 007b es: 007b fs: 00d8 gs: 0033 ss: 0068 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 Process iwconfig (pid: 7769, ti=f1cc0000 task=f1cc2a80 task.ti=f1cc0000) Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 Stack: c0419500 f1cc1f44 00008b01 f8ddf95c c035b984 00000000 f1e8a000 c015e356 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 c041950c c0419500 00200246 c04195c0 c04195c0 f1cc1f34 c0360d8a 00008b01 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 ffffffa1 f8825400 f1e8a000 c04195cc 22222222 22222222 22222222 f1e8a000 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 Call Trace: Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<f8ddf95c>] fwlanusb_get_name+0xc/0x10 [fwlanusb] Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c035b984>] ioctl_standard_call+0x64/0x370 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c015e356>] filemap_fault+0x206/0x490 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c0360d8a>] __mutex_lock_slowpath+0x16a/0x2d0 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<f8825400>] e100_do_ioctl+0x0/0x30 [e100] Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c035c046>] wext_handle_ioctl+0x3b6/0x450 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<f8ddf950>] fwlanusb_get_name+0x0/0x10 [fwlanusb] Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<f8ddf950>] fwlanusb_get_name+0x0/0x10 [fwlanusb] Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c028b4a7>] pty_write+0x47/0x60 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c02daf71>] dev_ioctl+0x341/0x350 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c012474e>] __wake_up+0x3e/0x60 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c02cd5e0>] sock_ioctl+0x0/0x210 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c018aa3b>] do_ioctl+0x2b/0x90 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c018acce>] vfs_ioctl+0x22e/0x2b0 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c018adad>] sys_ioctl+0x5d/0x70 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c0104472>] sysenter_past_esp+0x6b/0xa1 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 [<c0360000>] schedule+0x4a0/0x5e0 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 ======================= Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 Code: c3 8b 4c 24 08 8b 54 24 0c 8b 44 24 10 89 4c 24 04 89 54 24 08 89 44 24 0c e9 b6 ff ff ff 57 56 83 ec 04 8b 74 24 14 8b 7c 24 10 <ac> aa 84 c0 75 fa 8b 44 24 10 59 5e 5f c3 57 56 83 ec 04 8b 74 Dec 22 14:33:45 tux1 EIP: [<f8d9c38e>] strcpy+0xd/0x1b [fwlanusb] SS:ESP 0068:f1cc1e54 --------------------------- Bye Gerhard -- Dont't drink and root!

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[arch-general] Packages with non free licenses
by Grigorios Bouzakis 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

Is Archlinux reconsidering license issues with the binary packages residing at its repos? It certainly seems so... http://archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2007-December/003780.html http://archlinux.org/news/374/ I really think this is a change for the better. I have been meaning to ask, AFAIK besides the codecs package the same license have ttf-ms-fonts. Is there any change to see them in unsupported too? IMO the fonts are a more complex issue than the codecs one, since most users have them installed. Theres already an AUR entry for them in unsupported http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?do_Details=1&ID=5418 Personally i dont know if they can be replaced by other sets of fonts but taking advantage of the opportunity i thought id bring this to the devs attention. Greg

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Re: [arch-general] missing vbox_build_module
by richard terry 20 Dec '07

20 Dec '07

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:05:47 pm you wrote: > Hi Richard, > > which virtualbox package did you install? virtualbox-ose virtualbox-ose-additions virtualbox-ose-additions-modules Also, I removed all of these, compiled the AUR version and ran that, again no file of that name is installed. Any further hints? is the virtualbox-ose-additions-modules the correct package? Richard > Only the virtualbox_bin > package of aur includes this file, for the opensource edition of > virtualbox you have to install "virtualbox-modules". > > --peter > > On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 19:46 +1100, richard terry wrote: > > I wonder if anyone has anyidea about this, I posted previously and got no > > reply. > > > > May laptop is 1.8 celeron + ati, I upgraded system > no X, tried > > reconfiguring X to no avail (X wouldn't boot at all, just seemed to lock > > up). I downgraded back to kernel26-2.6.23.8-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz, and kde > > loaded fine, but virtualbox wouldn't load (no front-end gui), no error > > logs generated, the command just hangs in the terminal. > > > > looked everywhere for the /usr/bin/vbox_build_module to rebuild the > > kernel module but dosn't seem to exist on the computer. Did an updatedb > > etc first to try and find it. Checked out the forum and of course all the > > posts mention to use that file. > > > > doing a pacman -Ql <package name> also it seems the file needed to > > rebuild the kernel module is not in any of them. > > > > Any Idea's appreciated. > > > > Richard

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[arch-general] bizarre site
by solsTiCe d'Hiver 19 Dec '07

19 Dec '07

hi. when i go to http://ftp.archlinux.org/, i got a site like the one showing up at http://www.response-o-matic.com/ should it be the ftp site of archlinux.org ?

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[arch-general] regarding kernel 2.6.23.11
by Hussam Al-Tayeb 17 Dec '07

17 Dec '07

There seems to be an issue with the alsa snapshot used in the kernel 2.6.23.11 package. It's reported here http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8948 For me, it breaks gstreamer. I opted to post here so people who are on testing don't update their kernel.

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[arch-general] Kiosktool, missing buttons.
by Jorge Leon 16 Dec '07

16 Dec '07

Hello all, I just installed "kiosktool" from extra but all the buttons (back, next, help, etc) are missing. The menus do appear, but no buttons, so the program is useless. This is wheather I start it as a user or as root. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. Jorge.

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[arch-general] latest kernel killed my X/Virtual Box as well
by richard terry 15 Dec '07

15 Dec '07

did system upgrade and X wouldn't boot. Tried re-configuring no luck. Downgraded back 1 kernel and all works again, except virtual box won't appear (though the processes are running). Don't know if it's my laptop (has ati video card in it). Any explanation/help/hints

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[arch-general] where are the free fonts?
by Jeffrey Parke 15 Dec '07

15 Dec '07

what package contains the freesans, freeserif, and the freemono fonts. If i said there names wrong, please correct me. I last saw these fonts when i had ubuntu.

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[arch-general] Where is libdownload?
by Karolina Lindqvist 15 Dec '07

15 Dec '07

I am trying to compile archlinux from source, but I got stuck on pacman, since it depends on libdownload, and I just can't find libdownload source anywhere on the net, since the source location http://phraktured.net/libdownload/ appears to be permanently terminated. Where can I find the sources? Karolina

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[arch-general] Bug Day
by Roman Kyrylych 15 Dec '07

15 Dec '07

A Bug Day is scheduled on Saturday, 15th of December. The reason for this is to reduce the amount of old reports and feature requests. We will clear outdated reports, fix/implement those that already have patches provided or are trivial to fix/implement, discuss the pros & cons of implementing some feature requests, look at reports assigned to inactive/resigned devs, close/move reports for packages moved to Community/Unsupported. Join us at #archlinux-bugs channel on irc.freenode.net during 15th of December. As we live in different timezones not all devs will be available at the same time, but feel free to report your issues to any dev available online. Also please check your mailboxes that may contain notifications about comments made by devs and other users. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

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[arch-general] How to report bugs
by Karolina Lindqvist 15 Dec '07

15 Dec '07

When rebuilding from source, I find build problems here and there. I tried the http://bugs.archlinux.org/ web-page, but all I can do is looking at bug reports, but I find no way to report a new bug. How is it done? Or maybe build problems should not be reported as bugs, but in some other way? Karolina

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[arch-general] Building core/base packages
by R. Dale Thomas 14 Dec '07

14 Dec '07

I have an uptodate i686 chroot tree and am using a current abs tree for core/base packages. There appears to be a problem with several of the packages: 1) iputils-20070202-3 Error message: rdisc.c: In function 'do_fork': rdisc.c:250: error: 'OPEN_MAX' undeclared (first use in this function) 2) dialog-1.1_20070604-3 Failure to download: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dialog/dialog_1.1-20070604.orig.tar… 3) tzdata-2007i-2 Failure to download: ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzcode2007h.tar.gz version j is present. rdt.

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