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[arch-general] Locale packages
by Daan De Meyer 23 Jun '20

23 Jun '20

Hi, While working on locale-gen support for systemd-firstboot ( https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/15994) I started wondering if it wouldn't be simpler to delegate the installation of locales to pacman instead. I haven't been following the mailing lists for very long so I don't know if this has ever been discussed. I'd imagine Arch could provide a package for each locale supported by glibc and users would install the ones they need. The PKGBUILD would use localedef to generate separate folders of compiled locale files for each locale that would be stored in /usr/lib/locale. This approach is already implemented by distros such as Fedora (and co) and Ubuntu. The main advantage of this approach is that there's no need to set up an entire chroot to run locale-gen when pacstrapping a new Arch system image. This might seem easy but becomes trickier when the image uses a different architecture than the host system since emulation of that architecture has to be set up first. Even if locale-gen had a --root option so using the host's locale-gen would be an option, I'm not sure if there's any guarantee that compiled locale definitions generated by the host system's locale-gen would work with the glibc version used by the image (less of a problem with Arch but the glibc on the host could still potentially be out-of-date compared to the one installed in the image). Being able to install locales with pacman would solve all these problems. Any interest in something like this from the Arch developers? I'd be willing to try my hand at a PKGBUILD for this but I'm not a TU so I'd need some support to get this implemented (if there is any interest at all). (This also doesn't imply that locale-gen wouldn't work anymore, locale-gen stores everything in /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive which would be independent from the files installed by the locale packages, so both approaches should work side-by-side) Cheers, Daan De Meyer

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[arch-general] What do you do with pacman.log? Periodically archive? Delete?
by David C. Rankin 21 Jun '20

21 Jun '20

This is more of what is the recommended practice ... for handling pacman.log? Strange question, yes, but pacman.log is one of those that never gets rotated, etc.. The information in it isn't useful after a few upgrade cycles. So what is the general practice for dealing with it? o Periodically delete it? o Split it by year with awk and compress it for?? Historical reasons? o Keep the last year? It not one of those things I've ever thought about before, but grepping (after cleaning up the wide-character right-arrow from 2017/18 timeframe), I checked and I have 5M of log dating back to 2013. It's not hurting anything, but that got me thinking? What do others do with it, and is there any recommended manner for dealing with it? I don't see any reason for keeping much of it beyond what you may be asked to post as part of a bug-report, etc.. which usually wouldn't be more than the last couple of months for most packages.. man 8 pacman doesn't provide any options for dealing with how much to keep or to truncate. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] wierdest kernel crashes when playing movies via plex
by Ricardo Band 20 Jun '20

20 Jun '20

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Ahoi, I have a server that crashes in a few seconds when I start playing movies with plex and transcode them. Kernel, BIOS and Firmware updates and even changes most of the hardware didn't change anything. I thought maybe on this list are a few poeple that still have some ideas. I wrote the whole problem in much more detail down in the bbs: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1911198#p1911198 Do you have any ideas? I'm completely out of them. If you have questions ask me here or there. Thx for your help! - -- Greetings Ricardo Band https:// www.ricardo.band mailto:// email(a)ricardo.band xmpp://jabber@ricardo.band -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEEhyzgFNiV8yZuI1T5Gp1lfQa1gg4FAl7tLRMACgkQGp1lfQa1 gg5mfw//bgrXheM5Zz+dGGTqqXvrgoM03sQOLaAgRrozQVtYzRaSoMpimw7XERXg HaVVG/CeuhriNGgDyXDUklLltPHOpUhLAZhQf/oB+Uh4lqLqXJIETS6NcmsKQeYN 8sgPI/ayc0zZjcfXz8gRsafKu0Vw1iYTPkwqZbqQar96STTBLQKjwFEeklq9m958 8T/nxyI4ri9yMkM75+59vELmIMEgeJA9qGovrJOf/BlQQC/63HYiRNCkJtzl9FYe Vz3QcqnNy1Y8k5U2oZQ1qti0cudtd8C1Sd/KfGDWHSDd/qInXqK/dBtSffrc2XqZ MnB5BxNZCEkNsFvqBsOcHJ+9IEYJgnWg3KVgL1bcfW2v/wbp/1rjvtOAyL1wuEKs tTAym55G1s3P6idJBM/VpE989Lg3CenVUrAReDBqNfwl7YC4SDlDKZheMbaGKKph zWMDt3veLxcmXqfsuoJc4IFJEGnNy5mI/SypScArXBad7+68TGPoHnZTo/sqiIJ3 DucVVbSVSYlT3Xi5bdveFNE3DJEakoAN8b7uNg/ara2SCf+zRqcfBft+zyF4VP8Y Hez6YuDNX9s1h9X+n5oluYf7DkJp5WhwfqbHoNAU/G9z4vG8QbvREWKyx+192iNE /GSysRMSeDlmiok+yHhKaq++ibNTAtZITxRShm4aCjxrlxJyOXQ= =UOfm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] need to run previous kernel
by Jude DaShiell 19 Jun '20

19 Jun '20

With grub what should be done when grub boots to run the kernel used before the current default kernel? On the older amd machine I have I tried installing linux-amd and the git site timed out on me twice. I think that was during that last ddos attack though. The newer machine has linux-amd installed and running on it. The current kernel on the older machine that got updated yesterday has a serious speech impediment. This speech impediment effects espeakup and if I can I'm going to find out if it also effects fenrir. --

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[arch-general] Issue certificate
by Iyán Méndez Veiga 19 Jun '20

19 Jun '20

Hi all, I've been trying to debug an issue with a personal certificate. At first I thought it was a Kmail/Kleopatra bug because after some updates of KDE Applications back in January I stopped being able to sign emails with it. But lately, after trying in KDE Neon and also in a fresh installation of archlinux in a VM, it seems to work there but not in my old installation. I have carefully checked old configurations (I don't have any .pacnew) and still not working. I have already wrote a detailed explanation in the forum so I will not copy paste here. Here is the link: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=256654 Shortly, this is what I can do in both installations and the result is different although both are Archlinux and up-to-date. rm -r .gnupg gpgsm --import my_certificate.p12 * Open Kleopatra -> Asks to trust root certificate -> Say yes and verify fingerprint of Root CA *Trust level in Kleopatra says "full" in VM and "invalid" in my desktop. *Kmail can sign emails in VM and it fails with the following error in my desktop. "Sending message failed. Could not compose message: Address family not supported by protocol." Any ideas what other packages can interfere with my certificate? In the comments it was mentioned gnutl, p11-kit and ca-certificates* but I have same pacakges installed in both systems (except lib32-* packages in the VM). Thanks, Iyán

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[arch-general] dash as default shell?
by Piscium 18 Jun '20

18 Jun '20

Today I set dash as my default shell [1] on two PCs. We will see if I get into trouble. This question was asked years ago but maybe good to ask again. Could dash be made the default shell in Arch? I did some simple benchmarks and dash is much faster than bash, moreover being far smaller there is less chance of bugs. A possible issue is bashisms, however Ubuntu has been using dash as default for 14 years and Debian also for several years so hopefully most scripts have had bashisms removed by upstreams. What do you think? [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dash#Use_DASH_as_/bin/sh

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[arch-general] pacman --assume-installed in a config file?
by Damjan Georgievski 18 Jun '20

18 Jun '20

I often find myself using the `assume-installed`[1] option of pacman when doing upgrades, since I want to avoid some (for me) nonsensical dependencies to be installed. Is it possible to configure this in some config file, so I don't have to remember to type it all the time? [1] sudo pacman -Syu --assume-installed noto-fonts noto-fonts is pulled as a dependency of plasma-integration, but I don't want it installed since it takes over the default fonts (ships an aggressive fontconfig configuration) for many websites, and looks quite bad *for me* (on a 14" FHD display). It's also a 90MB package I don't need. -- damjan

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[arch-general] Keyboard Problem in Mate Arch Linux for the Last Few Days
by das 18 Jun '20

18 Jun '20

Hello Friends in Arch-General Mailing List I am using Arch Linux for the last six months or so. Before that I was using Redhat and Fedora for 15 years or so. I am a Mate user and I use my keyboard to write both English and Bangla. For the last few days when I am booting into Mate, a problem window is coming up -- I have attached the file kbd-text-s.png. The output of the commands in kbd-text.png is here: << dd@ru-al ~]$ xprop -root | grep XKB _XKB_RULES_NAMES_BACKUP(STRING) = "evdev", "pc105", "us", "", "" _XKB_RULES_NAMES(STRING) = "evdev", "pc105", "us", "", "grp:lctrl_rctrl_switch" [dd@ru-al ~]$ gsettings list-keys org.mate.peripherals-keyboard-xkb.kbd layouts options model >> And usually I change the layout from one to the other (English and Bangla) whenever I need them -- from System--Preferences--Hardware--Keyboard, as shown in kbd-layout-s.png attached with this mail. But now the keyboard is always English, I cannot change it to Bangla India Probhat. I have never filed a bug in Arch Linux and so I am first reporting here. Any help is welcome. Thanking you. -- দাশ das http://ddts.randomink.org/

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[arch-general] Archlinux kde lag nvidia
by Maykel Franco 13 Jun '20

13 Jun '20

Hi, I have lag with kde + nvidia 2080ti. I searched google but the solutions exposed not work for me. Anybody with the same problem? No tearing issues, only lag with windows maximized, change workspace effect, all windows effects... With gnome or cinnamon no issues. The effects works very well and speed. I try change compositor options with no results.

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[arch-general] pacman system update - Why am I prompted to import a specific key?
by David C. Rankin 13 Jun '20

13 Jun '20

All, On update today (yesterday's updates went fine), I am prompted to approve import of the following key a number of times: (108/108) checking keys in keyring [######################################] 100% downloading required keys... :: Import PGP key 3B94A80E50A477C7, "Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <heftig(a)a.org>"? [Y/n] :: Import PGP key 3B94A80E50A477C7, "Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <heftig(a)a.org>"? [Y/n] Y :: Import PGP key 3B94A80E50A477C7, "Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <heftig(a)a.org>"? [Y/n] :: Import PGP key 3B94A80E50A477C7, "Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <heftig(a)a.org>"? [Y/n] :: Import PGP key 3B94A80E50A477C7, "Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <heftig(a)a.org>"? [Y/n] :: Import PGP key 3B94A80E50A477C7, "Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <heftig(a)archlinux.org>"? [Y/n] :: Import PGP key 3B94A80E50A477C7, "Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <heftig(a)a.org>"? [Y/n] :: Import PGP key 3B94A80E50A477C7, "Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <heftig(a)a.org>"? [Y/n] :: Import PGP key 3B94A80E50A477C7, "Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <heftig(a)a.org>"? [Y/n] :: Import PGP key 3B94A80E50A477C7, "Jan Alexander Steffens (heftig) <heftig(a)a.org>"? [Y/n] Is this normal? (email address intentionally truncated) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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