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[arch-general] Finding virtual dependencies
by Lone_Wolf 06 Jan '20

06 Jan '20

Hi, Often when packages are removed from repos they become virtual provides. While those are great for a transition period , they are not meant to be used forever. Unfortunately they do stay around for a very long time. example : Around mesa 10.3.0-1 from august 2014[1] ati-dri, intel-dri, nouveau-dri and svga-dri were replaced by mesa-dri . In mesa 10.4.0-1 from december 2014 mesa-dri was integrated in mesa. we're now 5 years further and mesa still provides & conflicts ati-dri, intel-dri, nouveau-dri, svga-dri and mesa-dri. I have wanted to file a bug to get them removed for some time, but don't know if there are packages that still use them that would break if they are removed. > $ pacman -Ss ati-dri > extra/mesa 19.3.1-1 > An open-source implementation of the OpenGL specification > multilib/lib32-mesa 19.3.1-1 > An open-source implementation of the OpenGL specification (32-bit) > $ Is that output proof enough that ati-dri is not used by anything else then mesa & lib32-mesa or is there a better way to determine which packages depend on a specific virtual package ? Lone_Wolf [1] https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/mes… [2] https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/mes…

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[arch-general] too many brick walls for graphical accessible environment on archlinux
by Jude DaShiell 06 Jan '20

06 Jan '20

Without pulseaudio installed, I was able to choose festival for speech output and alsa for output device when running spd-conf inside speech-dispatcher on archlinux. This is necessary to have speech from orca in any graphical user interface. Since espeak-ng and espeak conflict I loose speech in the console installing espeak-ng since documentation and probably systemd service files for espeak-ng appear missing. So I install gnome which has orca in it. The pulseaudio package installs along with all of its core gnome dependencies and I try two things after that in order. First in console run spd-conf again and pick festival as speech device and pulseaudio as output device and spd-say is silenced. So I try spd-conf again and pick festival for speech device and alsa as output device. Again silence from spd-say. Next I run startx and get into gnome and try running orca. All of the sudden none of the voice files festival was provisioned with can be found anymore and orca dies with an error. The last thing I'm going to try with archlinux is a jenux install and go for the graphical environment on the install and see if that works. Slint actually uses espeak-ng and I have that running on another drive to keep me in the game when failures like this happen. All of this has been an interesting adventure. --

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Re: [arch-general] Adding a "posix" metapackage
by Ralph Corderoy 05 Jan '20

05 Jan '20

Hi Seblu, > Our scripts are not written POSIX compatible (i.e they rely on more > tools than the standard). Do you still know people writing POSIX > compatible scripts nowadays (students excluded)? Yes, lots of projects that target Unix systems, not just Linux, stick to POSIX for their build scripts, particularly tests. GNU groff and nmh are two I regularly see up close. > I'm not able to tell you something in Arch that rely on POSIX.2 (Shell > and Utilities). What make you think people care about this standard? Arch users may be producing code for non-Arch, non-Linux, systems. -- Cheers, Ralph.

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[arch-general] FOSDEM: Arch Linux hackathon, Jan 30 - 31
by Jerome Leclanche 05 Jan '20

05 Jan '20

Hi list, The Arch Linux team is organizing two full-day hackathons on January 30th and 31st in Brussels, the two days before FOSDEM (https://fosdem.org/2020/) Lunch and drinks will be provided, and other activities such as board games are on the menu for the later hours / evenings. If you are interested in contributing to Arch Linux and wish to join the hackathon, please email me *directly* at this email address with the following details: - Name and phone number / preferred method of contact - Rough availabilities on 30th and 31st of January (You do not have to attend both days) Slots are limited, and FOSDEM is coming up soon, please contact me as soon as possible if you wish to register :) Thanks! J. Leclanche PS: If you're attending FOSDEM and looking for help finding accomodations / things to do in Brussels, feel free to shoot me an email as well.

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[arch-general] libx11/xorgproto dependency
by Piscium 04 Jan '20

04 Jan '20

Hi, I use a customised version of xf86-input-evdev (I tweaked the source code to better support my trackball). This package is now broken as xorgproto used to provide resourceproto and scrnsaverproto but the current version does not provide it anymore. I suppose somebody will fix this broken package at some stage, but in the meantime, what is the advice on this? Should I use xorgproto from AUR instead of the "official" xorgproto if I need to rebuild the package? (It is working fine, I want to know just in case.) ----- $ makepkg -s ==> Making package: xf86-input-evdev 2.10.6-1 (Sat 04 Jan 2020 20:30:46 GMT) ==> Checking runtime dependencies... ==> Checking buildtime dependencies... ==> Installing missing dependencies... error: target not found: resourceproto error: target not found: scrnsaverproto ==> ERROR: 'pacman' failed to install missing dependencies. ==> Missing dependencies: -> resourceproto -> scrnsaverproto ==> ERROR: Could not resolve all dependencies.

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[arch-general] AUR IProblem
by heis snow 04 Jan '20

04 Jan '20

Hello, im having an issue with aur.archlinux.org, i cant access, i cant even ping (time out) with the router. I called my ISP and theres nothing they can do, users in the IRC channel #archlinux told me that sounds like an issue on arch's end, i dont know who to report this or what to do thanks

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[arch-general] community/espeak-ng
by Jude DaShiell 03 Jan '20

03 Jan '20

Does this package need some systemd additions like service files? If not, how can espeak-ng be configured so it starts up whenever a computer is booted? It's got no page in the archwiki and if I can get a replacement of espeak done speech-dispatcher will work with it and if speech-dispatcher works then I can get gnome and orca running too. --

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Re: [arch-general] Adding a "posix" metapackage
by Ralph Corderoy 03 Jan '20

03 Jan '20

Hi Santiago, > I'm curious, though, are there any specifics about the providers on > these POSIX tools/libraries/whatnot (i.e., would it be wortwhile > discussing the alternatives?). Is sh being provided by bash(1)? A more POSIX-compliant shell may be better, one that doesn't let lots of bashisms pass without complaint. dash(1)? And dash doesn't have time as a built-in, so we get to pull in an executable for that too. As for SCCS, it's a handy file format. Better in design that RCS's. And used by other tools over the years, e.g. Bitkeeper, so they do linger on. Plus it's a historical file format, just as ncompress was sought to be more POSIX compliant. -- Cheers, Ralph.

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[arch-general] Automated check log and block postfix
by siefke_listen＠web.de 02 Jan '20

02 Jan '20

Hello, happy new year first :) I have questions about postfix and the logfile. I have often player which try using submission which come in log like: Jan 1 11:39:19 ru-mail postfix/submission/smtpd[7463]: connect from unknown[45.143.222.192] Jan 1 11:39:19 ru-mail postfix/submission/smtpd[7463]: disconnect from unknown[45.143.222.192] ehlo=1 auth=0/1 rset=0/1 quit=1 commands=2/4 >From this ip for example cat /var/log/mail.log | grep 45.143.222.192 | wc -l 1471 I have fail2ban installed but there is nothing happen with. Okay is connect and disconnect. No error message. I not understand why is so but is ok. Is there a way to cat this mess and write it automated to iptables? Is there other way to catch it with a tool? Would be great have someone an idea here. Thank you Silvio

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[arch-general] Firewire : resume from suspend may fail
by SET 31 Dec '19

31 Dec '19

Hello, Resume from suspend to RAM in KDE fails if no video cam has been used. The camcorder is connected to a firewire card in a PCIE-1 expansion slot. If the camcorder has been used and is connected, the machine resumes rightly to the desktop. When it does not resume, I get a black screen with a blinking cursor, no mouse, no keyboard. Network was available once only to login through SSH. This leaves no choice but a hard reboot. Fortunately, the disk partitions are always clean. After the hard reboot, there's no single error message in /var/ log/{errors,kernel}.log, not even a single resume message from kernel. I've tried, on their own, pcie_hp=nomsi, firewire_ohci.quirks={0x10,0x40} to no avail. Using : kernel 5.3.x and 5.4.x. FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller (rev 46) I'm about to remove the card once I've downloaded the recordings. I wish of course no being obliged to do that. Does anyone have some advice to fix that ? Thanks.

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