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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Mkinitcpio replacement with Dracut
by Genes Lists 29 May '19

29 May '19

On 5/20/19 10:41 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini via arch-dev-public wrote: > Hi All, > ... > > In this initial phase I want to ask as many of you to test this as a > replacement to mkinitcpio in your setups, > as many as possible, and in as many scenarios as possible. We will ... I'm an arch tester and I'd be happy to test dracut. It would be helpful if you could create a little write-up on 'how to switch' from mkinitcpio to dracut. Its straightforward for me to add a boot stanza to refind to use the dracut img. And I assume modules now in HOOKS would move to /etc/dracut.conf.d/hooks.conf or similar. All being well, the kernel package will need to be modified to update /usr/share/libalpm/hooks/60-linux.hook to now call dracut. Thanks for working on this. gene

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Re: [arch-general] My GPU keeps being enabled as sound card in PulseAudio
by Yurii Kolesnykov 29 May '19

29 May '19

>For clarity : > >are you against the videocard being listed as a sound output or being >listed as default sound output ? > >Do you have a HDMI or DiplayPort monitor attached ? > >LW When it becomes enabled it intercepts some apps despite the fact it's not default. Yes, I don have HDMI monitor attached to GPU and it's HDMI sound card.

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[arch-general] My GPU keeps being enabled as sound card in PulseAudio
by Yurii Kolesnykov 28 May '19

28 May '19

Hi, I’m have testing and kde-unstable enabled and for a while I see that my GPU (RX 580, same with old R9 270X) keeps being enabled in KDE/PulseAudio at boot and sometimes randomly at runtime. I consider this as a bug, but I’m not sure where to report it. Is anyone have same issue? Yes, I do understand that there may be a lot of workarounds for this in also/pulseaudio, but I want it to be fixed upstream, thanks.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Mkinitcpio replacement with Dracut
by Genes Lists 27 May '19

27 May '19

1) Feedback: Tested one computer and it worked fine. Used refind to boot - it has encrytped /home but not root. Got text prompt for passphrase not graphical - think there is a way to get graphical as well but need to read further how to do that. I prefer text as I also can see the boot progress details which is helpful. Still, be good to know how to get the graphical prompt anyway. Created initrd using # dracut --kver xxx This seems to contain pretty much everything best I can tell 2) Question: Arch typically has used unversioned initrd images which has the convenience that the boot standzas don't need updating on new kernel. Which is preferable way to deal with this with dracut: 1) Unversioned: # dracut initramfs-linux.img --kver 5.1.3-arch1-1-ARCH 2) Keep version but link to unnamed: # dracut --kver 5.1.3-arch1-1-ARCH # ln /boot/initramfs-5.1.3-arch-1-ARCH.img initramfs-linux.img or perhps soft link (ln -s)? thanks.

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[arch-general] Dual boot Arch with Windows 10
by Ram Kumar 27 May '19

27 May '19

Hello Archers, I am planning to install Arch on a dual boot with windows 10. But i have read online that on a dual boot with windows 10, the bootloader will disappear after a windows update and can be cured only by using a live usb. They say that it is for general linux dual boot and not specific to our Arch. Before trying for myself, i would like to know whether anyone here have faced it before, if so, what is the better solution to it?. I need windows too because of ansys package that i use.. could you please help me with this? Thanks in advance Ramkumar

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[arch-general] Arch on NVMe ssd
by Ram Kumar 26 May '19

26 May '19

Hello fellow Archers, I bought a new laptop that has NVMe ssd on it. I would like to install Arch on that, is there any precautions that i need to take? Also i would like to get feedback from Archers who already tried this. Thanks in advance Ramkumar

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[arch-general] User/group name restrictions
by Andy Pieters 24 May '19

24 May '19

Hi This is something I gotten used to live with for a very long time now, patching the shadow package every time it is updated to allow capitals in the user/group names. I've often meant to write in to ask why and this is that glorious day. Why is it that uppercase letters are not allowed in user/group names in Arch Linux please. It's not that I'm anal about everything, but I was always brought up with the rule that a person's name should be written with their appropriate capital letters and not to do so is a deliberate mark of disrespect at the owner's address. So imagine my chagrin if I'd have to stare at my terminal all day long with such deliberate cheekiness staring in my face 😜 Thanks Andy

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[arch-general] License for libdrm packages
by ashark＠linuxcomp.ru 23 May '19

23 May '19

Hello. I was repacking amdgpu-pro deb files and when I started converting licences, I have noticed that libdrm* packages have a MIT Licence text in copyright file. I decided to check if AUR/libdrm-git and Extra/libdrm uses MIT licence, but they don't. I contacted Lone_Wolf (maintainer of libdrm-git) and he said that he used a licence from Extra/libdrm. Should not it be changed to MIT instead of custom?

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[arch-general] A few out of date packages
by Genes Lists 23 May '19

23 May '19

Hi - First a thank you for all the great work managing and keeping packages up to date. It can a significant amount of work. That said, periodically I check the repos for out of date packages. I've selected a few to highlight based on age and my own view of importance (no claim its a good view). There are also some packages which have been languishing in testing for a while (not sure the reason - I chose to ignore those here.). Here's a few that might benefit from an update: Repo Current Package Vers Date Vers Date Age ------------ ------ -------- ------ -------- ---- dkms 2.5 20171130 2.7.1 20190512 528 usbutils 0.10 20180515 0.12 20190507 357 refind-efi 11.3 20180722 11.4 20181112 113 efibootmgr 16 20180409 17 20180610 62 autofs 5.1.4 20171219 5.1.5 20181030 315 lsof 4.91 20180404 4.93.2 20190508 399 cifs-utils 6.8 20180313 6.9 20190405 388 chrony 3.4 20180919 3.5 20190514 237 Docbook-xml 4.5 5.1 ? alsa-lib 1.1.8 20190107 1.1.9 20190510 123 Alsa-plugins 1.1.8 20190107 1.1.9 20190510 123 Alsa-utils 1.1.8 20190107 1.1.9 20190510 123 gradle 5.2.1 20190208 5.4.1 20190426 77 Hope this is helpful, thank you! gene

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[arch-general] js60 update -- reveals older packages installed as deps not updated and left on system
by David C. Rankin 20 May '19

20 May '19

All, I don't know if this is an old packaging problem, or if this is normal, but with the following updates: Packages (6) js60-60.6.3-1 linux-lts-4.19.44-1 linux-lts-headers-4.19.44-1 perl-net-http-6.19-1 polkit-0.116-1 tmux-2.9_a-2 I saw the: Net Upgrade Size: 53.68 MiB and thought I would investigate. Checking what 'js..' packages were installed I found: $ pmq | grep '^js' js 24.2.0-4 js17 17.0.0-4 js52 52.9.0-2 js60 60.6.3-1 It was apparent that the size increase was due to the addition of js60 while js52 remained installed. (that may or may not be expected) That prompted the question Why are js17 and js still installed when neither are current packages? Checking community/js185 1.0.0-8 seems to be the "current" legacy package. Is this normal that new versions of packages are just added without removing the replaced package? I would have expected 'js' to be removed when `js17` was updated and then 'js17' to be removed when `js185` became available? Checking with pacman -Qi the reason `js` and `js17` were installed was as a dependency for another package: $ pmqi js Name : js Version : 24.2.0-4 Description : JavaScript interpreter and libraries <snip> Installed Size : 11.42 MiB Packager : Evangelos Foutras <evangelos(a)foutrelis.com> Build Date : Mon 07 Nov 2016 10:57:32 AM CST Install Date : Fri 25 Nov 2016 02:59:27 AM CST Install Reason : Installed as a dependency for another package Install Script : No Validated By : Signature $ pmqi js17 Name : js17 Version : 17.0.0-4 Description : JavaScript interpreter and libraries (legacy) Architecture : x86_64 <snip> Conflicts With : js<24.2.0 Replaces : None Installed Size : 8.39 MiB Packager : Bartłomiej Piotrowski <bpiotrowski(a)archlinux.org> Build Date : Mon 07 Nov 2016 06:19:43 AM CST Install Date : Fri 25 Nov 2016 02:59:06 AM CST Install Reason : Installed as a dependency for another package Install Script : No Validated By : Signature Further checking whether any of the old packages are required shows they are not, e.g. $ pacman -Qdt ... js 24.2.0-4 js17 17.0.0-4 js52 52.9.0-2 ... So is this just one of those circumstances where you have to manually check if packages are no longer needed by the system and uninstall manually? It's not a big deal, but more a curiosity to understand when this type thing can occur in the normal process of just calling pacman -Syu. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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