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Re: [arch-dev-public] [RFC] archweb nvchecker integration
by lists.archlinux＠ihavea.quest 04 Nov '24

04 Nov '24

Has there been any update/activity in this regard? This was an excellent idea! -- txtsd https://ihavea.quest On 2/1/22 1:55 AM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: > We’ve wanted automatic flagging packages out of date for a while and > currently every packager has to come up with it’s own solution. Let’s > solve this centralized by integrating nvchecker into archweb. > > nvchecker is a program which can monitor versions upstreams, github, > pypi, haskell, crates.io or custom provided for updates. Various > packagers already use nvchecker in some form. [1] > > The idea is that every package in svn has a .NVCHECKER file > (linux/trunk/.NVCHECKER) which contains the package specific settings i.e.: > > [go] > source = “github” > github = “golang/go” > prefix = “go” > use_max_tag = true > exclude_regex = “.(release|weekly|rc|alpha|beta).” > > Archweb will have a systemd service which regularly goes through the > pkgbases, check if the file exists, runs nvchecker and if required flags > the package out of date automatically. > > For Github sources a token is required so we can do 5000 requests per > hour, Arch Linux already has a Github account so this is no issue. > > Felix already has a script which converts a subset of packages to > nvchecker. This could be extended to apply to more packages. [2] > > The question is if anyone object to checking these small .NVCHECKER > files into our svn repository. If there are no real objections, I'll > start implementing this functionality into archweb in two weeks. > > [1] https://nvchecker.readthedocs.io/en/latest/usage.html#check-crates-io > [2] > https://github.com/felixonmars/archlinux-futils/blob/master/arch-to-nvcheck… > > Greetings, > > Jelle van der Waa

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Re: About AUR accreditation policy
by Óscar García Amor 04 Nov '24

04 Nov '24

El mar, 22-10-2024 a las 13:57 -0300, Giancarlo Razzolini escribió: > If individual attribution is needed, it can be obtained using version > control history. Yes, but this does not happen when moving a package from AUR to the official repositories. For example in the case of the package we are talking about there is no git history [1] since it stayed in the AUR [2]. However that could be a very good solution, always move the git repository from the AUR when a package is promoted and vice versa (move the git from the official repository to the AUR) when the package is left without maintainer. Greetings. [1]: https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/textpieces/-/comm… [2]: https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/log/?h=textpieces -- Óscar García Amor | ogarcia at moire.org | http://ogarcia.me

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Is there a way to submit a one-shot update to an Aur package without becoming the maintainer?
by David C. Rankin 03 Nov '24

03 Nov '24

Arch and Aur Folks, I updated https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/mongodb44 to build with the last 4.4.29 source and patched for boost 1.86. The package builds fine now against current Arch. I wanted to pass along the results of those efforts and update the Aur package, but didn't want to take on the maintainer role. Is there a way to provide an update for the package and bring in back into date without becoming the maintainer? I have a signed source package I'm happy to pass along if that is something the admins can do. There is about 8 hours of effort to that went to find and fix all the issues, I'd like to make that available to whoever may need the 4.4 version of mongodb. I didn't think I'd ever need it, but it is the last version that wasn't built requiring avx - so it is useful if you need it for those cases or need it in a VM, etc.. (note: some parts of a 3rd party package included along with the source will need a significant 'type' change to suppress the char8_t -Wc++20-compat type warning, but that's just something for the future, and there is one more -Wredundant-move I need to fix in src/mongo/db/matcher/expression_array.h that somehow got missed in the hundreds of thousands of lines of output) I've tried posting to aur-general, but my posts do not ever make it to the list. I don't mind picking up the maintainer role, but am hesitant to get caught be another large boost deprecation/removal during a busy week and not have time to devote to it. Is a one-shot update something that can be done for this package without becoming the maintainer? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Status of package superslicer
by Björn Försterling 30 Oct '24

30 Oct '24

Hi, was the package "superslicer" removed from pacman? $ sudo pacman -Ss superslicer $ echo $? 1 Also I cannot find the package "slic3r" as well. The only slicer that pacman supports now seems to be the "prusa- slicer". Does anyone know why these packages where removed? Regards Björn

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Nextcloud - Archlinux packaged apps verse Nextcloud store - What is the difference?
by David C. Rankin 23 Oct '24

23 Oct '24

Devs, I've used nextcloud in Arch for a couple of years. When I installed, it was just the Nextcloud webapp that was available and the applications were packaged by nextcloud with additional apps available in the nextcloud store. Now there are "nextcloud-app-xxxx" packages provided by Archlinux, e.g. nextcloud-app-bookmarks nextcloud-app-calendar nextcloud-app-contacts nextcloud-app-main nextcloud-app-news nextcloud-app-notes nextcloud-app-spreed Did something change that now means I should be installing the nextcloud-app-xxxx packages instead of the apps that are already in Nextcloud? The wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Nextcloud is silent on the packaged apps. Are they different from what is available in the nextcloud store? Better? Just trying to figure out why they are packaged and if I should switch to them. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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About AUR accreditation policy
by Óscar García Amor 22 Oct '24

22 Oct '24

Hello foks, I tell you, about 8 hours ago a package that Radu C. Martin and I were maintaining (textpieces) was moved from the AUR to extra. In this movement (which seems perfect to us, every package officially maintained is welcome and better than this in the AUR) our names have disappeared[1]. I don't want you to misunderstand me, I'm not crying foul about this, but it doesn't seem fair to me that the person (or persons) who kept the package for a while until it became official is not credited. If we in the AUR keep the names of those who preceded us in the maintenance of the package, I understand that when a package moves from the AUR to an official repository the same should happen. This happens when a package is dropped to AUR. I don't know if there is a directive for this, but if not, maybe it's time to write one. And as I said, I don't mind that my name doesn't appear as a contributor right now (I keep my AUR packages for myself and for people to benefit from it, not for fame or similar nonsense), but I do find it a bit ugly that the effort involved in doing that work is not recognized, and not by me, but by everyone. Greetings. PS: I would not want accusations or ugly things to come out of this. I just want to note that there should be a policy that the AUR maintainer's work should be credited when a package is moved to an official repository. [1]: https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/textpieces/-/blob… -- Óscar García Amor | ogarcia at moire.org | http://ogarcia.me

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Arch Linux stuck on legacy iptables by default
by Martin Rys 18 Oct '24

18 Oct '24

Arch Linux still uses the legacy iptables backend, as opposed to the nft backend that every other distribution uses. This has been reported since 2021 with no response: https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/iptables/-/issues… To me it looks like a direct, simple migration, and it just needs someone with the needed perms to look at it, but I could be wrong. It's assigned to the notoriously overburdened Felix, is there anything a non-core member can do, other than wait? It's not a *large* issue, it's just mildly annoying to have workarounds in my deploys, as it is installed on any system due to iproute2 needing an iptables backend, and some things just outright don't work with that, requiring the nft one. Thanks, Martin

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Network Issues After Pacman Upgrade
by Björn Försterling 14 Oct '24

14 Oct '24

Hello, I just ran a "pacman -Syu" and am having issues with the internet connection. I have around 10 seconds with a working connection to the internet followed by 10 seconds without being able to establish a connection. For 10 seconds I am able to curl google.com or telnet its port 443, and then I get blocked for 10 seconds. There was an update to "networkmanager": [2024-10-13T15:39:41+0200] [ALPM] upgraded networkmanager (1.48.10-1 -> 1.50.0-1) Could this be the cause? Does anyone else experience similar problems? I had the same problem a few weeks ago. Regards Björn

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Strange config /etc/profile.d/utf8.sh added on recent upgrade
by Tadeas Uhlir 13 Oct '24

13 Oct '24

Hey all, Today, I noticed that my alias for "ls" is not working as usual. I alias "ll" to "LC_COLLATE=C ls -alF" to have a long listing with hidden dirs at the top. However, I noticed that the sorting doesn't work all of a sudden. After some digging around I found out that this is due to "LC_ALL" being set to "en_US.utf8". This variable is being set from a file at "/etc/profile.d/utf8.sh". Two notes about this: 1. For the life of me I cannot figure out which package upgrade/install created this file. Just going by a pacman log the file creation time corresponds to when "pacman --noconfirm -S autoconf libtool m4 automake" ran. But those packages don't seem to have much to do with locale. And googling the path of this file doesn't seem to yield much, clearly it's not a very common config file across linux distros. 2. Once I find the culprit, I would love to know what is the rationale behind explicitly setting "LC_ALL". Even the archwiki mentions that this should only be done during tests: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Locale#LC_ALL:_troubleshooting . And, indeed, seems like a bad idea given that it overrides all LC_ vars. -- Best Regards, Tadeáš Uhlíř

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Periodic aged package report
by Genes Lists 11 Oct '24

11 Oct '24

Periodic check of Arch out of date packages. This considered are purely my opinion of those that are sufficiently 'relevant'. Apologies to any others. The really good news is that there really aren't many ! Big congrats for the hard work keeping Arch awesome and up to date. Note that, some are excluded when they are work in progress and/or involve a significant amount of work (provided they are not "too" old, which none are). Arch is doing an amazing job keeping our core/key packages like compiler tools, python, systemd, kernel and other vital packages very up to date. What remains are a few that are relevant enough (imho) to make the list. I am using 3 metrics of age: - Num-B The number of releases we are behind Some packages have frequent updates some do not. - Age The number of days between the arch version and the latest - New: How recent was the latest released (days ago from today) Package Arch Curr Date num-b Age New ------------------ ---------- ------ -------- ------ ------ ---- apparmor 3.1.7-5 4.0.3 08/15/24 4 195 55 biber 1:2.19-4 2.20 03/21/24 1 321 202 dkms 3.0.12-1 3.1.0 10/01/24 2 373 8 python-cryptography 42.0.8-1 43.0.1 09/03/24 2 91 36 python-setuptools 1:69.5.1-1 75.1.0 09/13/24 22 153 26 yubioath-desktop 5.1.0-3 7.1.0 09/25/24 12 1234 14 (1) (1) Now called yubico-authenticator -- Gene

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