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Python 3.11 timeline?
by David Rosenstrauch 04 May '23

04 May '23

Anyone know if there's any timeline on when we'll see python 3.11 get released to Arch? I emailed the maintainer about this directly recently, but didn't hear anything back. I know this is a big upgrade, and lots of dependent packages are involved, so this might require some time. I just was wondering if there was any roadmap/timeline for how long that might be. Thanks, DR

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Fwd: dropping retired X.Org Packages
by David C. Rankin 04 May '23

04 May '23

-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: dropping retired X.Org Packages Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 23:51:11 +0200 From: Andreas Radke <andyrtr(a)archlinux.org> Organization: ArchLinux To: arch-dev-public(a)lists.archlinux.org Following this reminder post[1]+[2] I'm going to remove the following packages soon from the repos: xf86-input-elographics xf86-input-synaptics xf86-input-vmmouse xf86-input-void Any objections? -Andy Andy, I still use the synaptics package on laptops -- handy to have. Will it go to AUR. It would be a shame to lose it. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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ttf-nerd-fonts conflict
by Ralf Mardorf 01 May '23

01 May '23

Hi, there's a ttf-nerd-fonts conflict, one package removes the other package. One of the packages is flagged out-of-date, so I guess I shouldn't report a bug. However, it's a little bit annoying that I need to add ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-2048-em to IgnorePkg. "Do NOT report bugs when a package is just outdated, or it is in the AUR. Use the 'flag out of date' link on the package page, or the Mailing List. REPEAT: Do NOT report bugs for outdated packages!" - https://bugs.archlinux.org/ $ sudo pacman -Syu [snip] :: Replace ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-2048-em with community/ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols? [Y/n] Y [snip] Packages (2) ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-3.0.0-2 ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-2048-em-2.3.3-1 [removal] [snip] $ sudo pacman -Syu :: Replace ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols with community/ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-2048-em? [Y/n] Y [snip] Packages (2) ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-3.0.0-2 [removal] ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-2048-em-2.3.3-1 [snip] https://archlinux.org/packages/community/any/ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols/ Last Updated: 2023-05-01 02:12 UTC https://archlinux.org/packages/community/any/ttf-nerd-fonts-symbols-2048-em/ Flagged out-of-date on 2023-04-30 Regards, Ralf

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Re: Python 3.11 in [staging] -> [testing]
by Genes Lists 29 Apr '23

29 Apr '23

On 4/29/23 11:19, Felix Yan wrote: > On 4/29/23 14:13, David Runge wrote: >> ... > The move is now done and everything should have been fixed. Have fun > breaking something new :) > So far for all the things I've tested, starting with my own code, its working really well. And noticeably faster - one tool runs in half the time! It has brought to my attention that there's still 'things' which have not yet upgraded to use the standard 'pyproject.toml' approach for packaging. Have not found anything (yet!) which is not working. thank you all for the enormous effort - very much appreciated. gene

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How to use package from community-testing
by Łukasz Michalski 28 Apr '23

28 Apr '23

Hi, I am running arch-linux with cyrus-imapd as mail server for several years and now cyrus-imapd appeared in community-testing. I am planning upgrade and switch from cyrus-imapd aur package to version from community-testing. What is a recommended way to test only this package? If I enable community-testing in pacman.conf, then doing pacman -Su will still pull official packages from community until I explicitly request a version from testing? Regards, Łukasz

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Re: Consolidating our mkinitcpio hooks
by Jordan Glover 28 Apr '23

28 Apr '23

On Tuesday, April 25th, 2023 at 4:31 PM, Morten Linderud <foxboron(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Hi, > > Currently we have a lot of our mkinitcpio hooks in several packages which has > never been consolidated. This makes it confusing where stuff belong and what is > provided where, and I really want to consolidate everything. > > It would help keeping up the development of the hooks, patch everything and > ultimately write a test suite for mkinitcpio. > > I also have long term plans on moving the default hooks from busybox to systemd, > but this will happen at a later point. > > Initially I really want to move the hooks from `cryptsetup` and `systemd`: > > * encrypt and sd-encrypt from core/cryptsetup > * systemd and udev from core/systemd What if new cryptsetup release will need some changes in the hook? How would you ensure mkinitcpio hook and cryptsetup (or any other package requiring a hook) are kept in sync? What are the pros of consolidation? Jordan

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As gcc 13 approaches, if you have C++ projects, time to check the changes
by David C. Rankin 28 Apr '23

28 Apr '23

all, There are changes in gcc 13 that primarily impact C++ regarding the headers automatically included, overload resolution and excess floating-point precision that can cause existing projects to not compile (or break). See: https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-13/porting_to.html -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Recommended way to use software that depend on python2
by Sadeep Madurange 27 Apr '23

27 Apr '23

I am trying to setup ESP8266 toolchain [1] on Arch. The problem is that their SDK depends on python2. The aur package for python2 is marked as unmaintained. What is the recommended way to work with python2 on Arch? [1]: https://docs.espressif.com/projects/esp8266-rtos-sdk/en/latest/get-started/… -- Regards, Sadeep PGP: 103BF9E3E750BF7E

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What can be done to prevent messages from cluttering up log files?
by Ralf Mardorf 24 Apr '23

24 Apr '23

Hi, assuming you can't get rid of the cause of messages flooding the log file, could you prevent writing with a filter? After all, only filtering when reading would not prevent the unnecessary growth of log files. I stumbled across the following which the solutions posted on the forums managed to fix. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=275022 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=280638 [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep threadirqs\ i /boot/grub/grub.cfg linux /boot/vmlinuz-linux root=/dev/disk/by-label/m1.archlinux ro threadirqs ibt=off ipv6.disable=1 [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /etc/acpi/events/buttons event=button/(up|down|left|right|kpenter) action=<drop> But what could you do if there were no such workarounds? Regards, Ralf

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How can I troubleshoot virtualbox issues?
by Ralf Mardorf 21 Apr '23

21 Apr '23

Hi, a self-build virtualbox 6.1.40 on old Intel Celeron hardware with a self-build 4.19-rt kernel worked even with a Windows 11 guest, while on a new Intel i3 13. gen hardware even linux 6.2.11-arch1-1 and virtualbox 7.0.8-1 from repos don't work with a Windows 10 guest. If I run "$ VirtualBox" and then try to start a Windows 10 (not 11) guest (guest additions are still 6.1.40) a small Window "Start" with a progress bar opens and nothing more happens, it stays at 20%. I need to pkill virtualbox processes to get rid of the windows, but before I can try to start it again, I need to shutdown the machine, a log out and log in doesn't work. Shutdown hangs with "A stop job is running ..." only pushing the reset button can finish shutdown, Ctrl+C or Ctrl+Alt+Del don't help. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ uname -r 6.2.11-arch1-1 [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Q virtualbox virtualbox-ext-oracle virtualbox-guest-iso virtualbox-host-modules-arch virtualbox 7.0.8-1 virtualbox-ext-oracle 7.0.8-1 virtualbox-guest-iso 7.0.8-1 virtualbox-host-modules-arch 7.0.8-1 [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /mnt/winos10/winos10/Logs/VBox.log 00:00:00.520280 VirtualBox VM 7.0.8 r156879 linux.amd64 (Apr 18 2023 21:36:31) release log 00:00:00.520282 Log opened 2023-04-21T03:44:25.091405000Z 00:00:00.520282 Build Type: release 00:00:00.520283 OS Product: Linux 00:00:00.520283 OS Release: 6.2.11-arch1-1 00:00:00.520284 OS Version: #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:59:24 +0000 00:00:00.520296 DMI Product Name: B760M DS3H DDR4 00:00:00.520300 DMI Product Version: Default string 00:00:00.520302 Firmware type: UEFI 00:00:00.520456 Secure Boot: Disabled 00:00:00.520477 Host RAM: 31875MB (31.1GB) total, 31164MB (30.4GB) available 00:00:00.520478 Executable: /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBoxVM 00:00:00.520479 Process ID: 1934 00:00:00.520479 Package type: LINUX_64BITS_GENERIC (OSE) 00:00:00.523861 Installed Extension Packs: 00:00:00.523864 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack (Version: 7.0.8 r156879; VRDE Module: VBoxVRDP; Crypto Module: VBoxPuelCrypto) 00:00:00.524255 Console: Machine state changed to 'Starting' 00:00:00.524357 Qt version: 5.15.9 00:00:00.524365 X11 Window Manager code: 0 00:00:00.531648 SUP: seg #0: R 0x00000000 LB 0x00061000 00:00:00.531663 SUP: seg #1: R X 0x00061000 LB 0x001a1000 00:00:00.531665 SUP: seg #2: R 0x00202000 LB 0x0006e000 00:00:00.531666 SUP: seg #3: RW 0x00270000 LB 0x0002eae8 00:00:00.537845 GUI: UIMediumEnumerator: Medium-enumeration finished! 00:00:00.538050 X Server details: vendor: The X.Org Foundation, release: 12101008, protocol version: 11.0, display string: :0 00:00:00.538054 Using XKB for keycode to scan code conversion 00:00:00.547774 GUI: UIDesktopWidgetWatchdog::sltHandleHostScreenAvailableGeometryCalculated: Screen 0 work area is actually resized to: 0x32 x 1920x1048 Taking a look at journalctl I don't notice anything special, other than "watchdog did not stop". [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ journalctl -b1 | tail Apr 11 12:26:48 archlinux systemd[1]: Using hardware watchdog 'iTCO_wdt', version 0, device /dev/watchdog0 Apr 11 12:26:48 archlinux systemd[1]: Watchdog running with a timeout of 10min. Apr 11 12:26:48 archlinux kernel: watchdog: watchdog0: watchdog did not stop! Apr 11 12:26:48 archlinux systemd-shutdown[1]: Using hardware watchdog 'iTCO_wdt', version 0, device /dev/watchdog0 Apr 11 12:26:48 archlinux systemd-shutdown[1]: Watchdog running with a timeout of 10min. Apr 11 12:26:48 archlinux systemd-shutdown[1]: Syncing filesystems and block devices. Apr 11 12:26:48 archlinux systemd-shutdown[1]: Sending SIGTERM to remaining processes... Apr 11 12:26:48 archlinux systemd-journald[227]: Received SIGTERM from PID 1 (systemd-shutdow). Apr 11 12:26:48 archlinux dnsmasq[604]: exiting on receipt of SIGTERM Apr 11 12:26:48 archlinux systemd-journald[227]: Journal stopped [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep \ Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf Driver "modesetting" [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep -e EE -e WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log [ 7.814] Current Operating System: Linux archlinux 6.2.11-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu, 13 Apr 2023 16:59:24 +0000 x86_64 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [ 7.822] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi" does not exist. [ 7.822] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi" does not exist. [ 8.270] (II) Initializing extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ hwinfo --cpu | grep Model | sort -u Model: 6.191.5 "13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-13100" Random googling returned something that is probably not related to the issue I experience. Slow performance is still better than no performance at all: https://superuser.com/questions/1747857/does-the-hybrid-cpu-architecture-po… "Processor Cores (P-cores + E-cores) Intel® Core i3 Processors 4 (4P+0E)" - https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/docs/processors/core/13th-… Perhaps I'm missing something, but in my case https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/VirtualBox#Troubleshooting seems to be no help. Regards, Ralf

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