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[arch-general] "You have mail" message at login
by gt 16 Oct '12

16 Oct '12

Whenever I log in to a TTY, I get this message. I read my system mails through mutt, so i don't need this. I have unset MAILCHECK in .bashrc, but no effect. I set MAIL_CHECK_ENAB to no in login.defs, but still no effect. Lastly i tried creating a .hushlogin file in the user's home, but even that didn't have any effect. The message only appears when logging in through a TTY though, not in any other terminal. Any idea what's causing it to show up? ps: Gaetan, here's the content of my .bash_profile [[ -f ~/.bashrc ]] && . ~/.bashrc so, i believe .bashrc is sourced on login.

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[arch-general] Final step before changing to systemd
by Martín Cigorraga 16 Oct '12

16 Oct '12

Hi all :) I have almost everything in place to jump to systemd and I hope to make the transition after reading your responses here. Basically I need to know how to handle these daemons: hwclock dbus netfs As today I still have them in the rc.conf DAEMONS field but I was unable to find a way to enable them within systemd. Any suggestions? Regards.

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Re: [arch-general] rtirq
by Ralf Mardorf 15 Oct '12

15 Oct '12

On Mon, 2012-10-15 at 11:21 -0700, Bernardo Barros wrote: > Please test: > > https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=63617 Thank you for the effort. I'm sorry, but I still stay with initscripts and on my todo list is testing initscripts from git, as soon as I've solved some issues. I hopefully will find some time to switch to systemd on a VBox install, perhaps testing rtirq on a virtual machine will help a little bit too, but it might be borderline. I can't contribute as a tester now. Apologize! Ralf

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[arch-general] systemd units order
by Arno Gaboury 15 Oct '12

15 Oct '12

Dear list, I automatic login with systemd. I recently added 2 services, and they start AFTER the login prompt, so I lost it. Not a big deal, as pressing <Enter> gives it back. I tried with no sucess playing with the After and Before options for one unit file (netcfg). I would like to have a clean boot but does not know how to properly set up the units orders. Here are the unit files of the 2 services : http://sprunge.us/ZQWD TY for help.

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[arch-general] Debugging kernel panics (ATI Catalyst related?)
by Robbie Smith 15 Oct '12

15 Oct '12

After the last updates, I was getting a kernel panic at reboot; hard-resetting and then powering on again and it seems to boot fine. I suspect the problem has to do with the ATI Catalyst driver, as the panics occurred when rebooting after upgrading or downgrading the driver. I originally upgraded to 12.9, but rolled back to 12.8 after discovering that 12.9 broke my screen brightness keys. I also had to roll back Xorg to 1.12 because Catalyst doesn't support the new Xorg yet. Both times I rebuilt the module and (just to be sure) the kernel image before rebooting. I rebuilt them again once the system was back up, rebooted, and it worked. Any ideas how to debug, seeing as this just sort of popped up out-of-the-blue? If the kernel even logs a panic, where do I find it so I can figure out what caused it?

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[arch-general] KDE mail popup notification immediately after login starts - how to remove?
by mike cloaked 15 Oct '12

15 Oct '12

In the past few days after a KDE update immediately after KDE login starts from the KDM login greet screen. I get a small mail notification popup window before the normal KDE login completes immediately after entering the login password in KDM. The popup says either "You have old mail" or "You have new mail" and the login will only continue if the "Ok" button on the popup is clicked. This has never happened before and I cannot find any setting which switches this off. The remainder of the KDE login does not continue unless the "Ok" is accepted. Presumably this is a new bug that has emerged but I would like any help in getting rid of it - if anyone knows a workaround until a proper fix is available in an updated kde package - though I don't know which package is the culprit. Any help appreciated. Thanks. -- mike c

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[arch-general] nss-pam-ldap on AUR
by Thiago Kenji Okada 15 Oct '12

15 Oct '12

I am trying to setup LDAP and NSS/PAM authentication on my laboratory, but had some serious issues with nss_ldap (the system boot would lock-up when udev starts), so I was looking for alternatives when I found the nss-pam-ldap module (http://arthurdejong.org/nss-pam-ldapd/), which works great. The problem is, we have three different nss-pam-ldap PKGBUILDs on AUR, and neither of them is good (no one has systemd service files, all of them are out of date, one doesn't even install correctly). I would maintain my own package (that is a mix of some of these packages), but since there is already three differents packages I choose to not do so (well, I can't even think of a appropriate name since all of them are taken). So we have a problem here, I can maintain a package since it's of my own interest (at least until I discover how to use the nss_ldap module without problems), but I can't simple create another one. Here are the three nss-pam-ldap modules on AUR: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=62383 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38167 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=61149 -- Thiago Kenji Okada <thiago.mast3r(a)gmail.com> PGP Key: EEC09705

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[arch-general] Gnome 3.6, No logout entry? (Gnome-unstable and testing)
by Brandon Watkins 14 Oct '12

14 Oct '12

I've just upgraded my arch install to [testing] and [gnome-unstable]. Almost everything works fine, except there is no entry for logout in the gnome-shell user menu. I disabled all my extensions to make sure that wasn't the cause. Is this a known issue? Any workaround?

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[arch-general] Password expiring and encryption
by Rafael Beraldo 14 Oct '12

14 Oct '12

Hello all, I have my passwords set to expire every 30 days. When they expire, I am asked to input a new, different password. It turns out that I recently noticed I had to input only the first 8 characters of my password to be able to log in. I discussed this with Hlao-ru on #archlinux and, thanks to him, I found out that passwords generated by passwd were fine but passwords generated after my password expire suffer of the 8-character restriction problem. This problem can be reproduced by manually expiring the password with passwd -e user and then loging in with su user. So I took a look at man passwd and man login and both programs read /etc/login.defs. This file has a parameter, ENCRYPT_METHOD, that was, in my system, unset. The default value for this parameter is DES, and that could be causing my problem. I set the parameter to SHA512 but that didn't help (I believe I have to reboot the system, and I haven't). There are a few other files that seem to do a similar job, namely /etc/default/passwd and /etc/pam.d/password. I am confused: what file control what programs? And isn't that a bug? The wiki [0] says that newly created passwords use SHA-512 as the encryption, but that's clearly not the case when asked to create a new password. [0]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SHA_password_hashes Thanks all, -- Rafael Beraldo cabaladada.org

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] consolekit dependencies?
by Leonid Isaev 14 Oct '12

14 Oct '12

On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 16:34:04 +0200 Tom Gundersen <teg(a)jklm.no> wrote: > On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Thomas Bächler <thomas(a)archlinux.org> > wrote: > > Most (all?) of our login manager still depend on consolekit. However, > > since consolekit support will be stripped from polkit when > > gnome-unstable goes to testing (soon?), registering consolekit sessions > > on login has no effect whatsoever. > > > > Should we rebuild our login managers to remove the consolekit dependencies? > > > > I rebuilt kdebase-workspace locally yesterday, and polkit seems to work > > just fine. kde itself does not use consolekit, except through polkit. > > Doing this makes sense to me. However, to make things clear-cut, it > would be best if we could entirely remove consolekit from our repos > and put up an announcement. That way people will not be confused as to > why things stop working if they are not using logind. > > In addition to the gnome+kde packages the relevant packages we would > have to make sure still work without consolekit are: > > lxdm > oblogout > slim > udiskie (optional) > xfce4-session xfce-session doesn't support systemd-logind at the moment. Please see the bug report at <https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8729>... > xorg-xdm > > Cheers, > > Tom -- Leonid Isaev GnuPG key: 0x164B5A6D Fingerprint: C0DF 20D0 C075 C3F1 E1BE 775A A7AE F6CB 164B 5A6D

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