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[arch-general] mostly successful install of talkingarchlinux
by Jude DaShiell 15 Sep '12

15 Sep '12

Two situations are a bit puzzling after installation for me. 1) on booting the system it doesn't matter what is in syslinux.cfg, enter must be hit to turn sound on and finish the login. I've adjusted prompt from 0 to 1 and it had no effect. The second puzzle is a bit more troublesome and has to do with espeak itself. I cannot hit the gray enter key and have espeak talk anymore through the sound card without rebooting the system. For speakup, this is only supposed to be a temporary silence key, not a permanent kill key. Other than those two puzzles, I finally got archlinux up and installed using syslinux. One final piece I'd best add, I put amixer -D hw set Master 92% unmute into /etc/rc.local and it seems to work pretty well there. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- jude <jdashiel(a)shellworld.net> Adobe fiend for failing to Flash

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[arch-general] Speech recognition
by Ralf Mardorf 14 Sep '12

14 Sep '12

Hi :) is there a recommended free as in beer speech recognition for the German and English language? The information about Linux speech recognition I found until now is outdated, resp. meager. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition_in_Linux# http://www.linux-community.de/Internal/Nachrichten/Simon-freie-Spracherkenn… Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] Init script hidden output (careless /dev/null redirection)
by Jacob Joseph 14 Sep '12

14 Sep '12

Hi. A recurring source of frustration for my use of Arch Linux is that many init scripts fail to produce any output, to either the console or syslog, when something goes wrong and the script fails. The particular cause is always case-dependent (usually stemming from some config error). Some underlying programs produce no output; I'm not proposing that Arch address all such cases. Instead, the scenario I continue to run into is that the init script redirects all output, good or bad, to /dev/null. In my opinion, this is excessively heavy-handed and obscures the behavior of the system only to make debugging difficult. I also interpret this behavior to be in contrast to the Arch Way document, particularly in that it does not satisfy: "Arch Linux developers and users believe that trying to hide the complexities of a system actually results in an even more complex system, and is therefore to be avoided." I have posted bug reports about some packages (e.g., https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/29769), some of which have resulted in more favorable output. However, the issue is more general, and I'm unsure whether I should continue posting such bugs. So, can anyone clarify whether there is some existing policy about this behavior? I first assumed this was a matter of limited manpower, but discussion in that backuppc bug, in particular, leads me to suspect that others in the project don't have my convictions. Thanks. ~Jacob

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[arch-general] syslinux material in beginner's guide
by Jude DaShiell 14 Sep '12

14 Sep '12

The line syslinux.cfg leaves as root=/dev/sda3 ro if the example in the beginner's guide is followed needs to be changed to: root=/dev/sda1 rw I am having further problems with the archlinux installation but these are off topic for this message. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- jude <jdashiel(a)shellworld.net> Adobe fiend for failing to Flash

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Re: [arch-general] almost got archlinux installed
by Jude DaShiell 14 Sep '12

14 Sep '12

First, the hack to force the sound card on and to be unmuted does work. I put it into /etc/profile since that should apply to the whole system. I did manage to get dmesg output saved to a file. I'll see if I can get that copied to another place where it can be shared later. I failed to create a user account as root though I'm pretty sure I'll be able to do that with the installation disk in the drive running everything. What happened to cause the failure was that speakup died and I couldn't get it back to life just as the system said changing finger information. So I never managed to finish creating that user account. What is going on that should cause this, I do not know. When I tried mandb as root, speakup also died and I never got the root prompt back and typing the reboot command failed to speak as I typed it or to reboot the system. Failed to create secure file system message went away after I changed ro to rw in syslinux.cfg. Should /dev/sda3 have been mentioned in syslinux.cfg where I have /home? If so, I didn't do that and this may explain some of the difficulties. Finally, archlinux has to have enter hit once booted to start talking and I had adjusted timeout from 50 down to 20 earlier. The consolation prize for all of this is with each effected correction, the problems get different which since speakup still speaks sometimes and the system still boots probably points at some form of progress. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- jude <jdashiel(a)shellworld.net> Adobe fiend for failing to Flash

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[arch-general] Openstack keystone
by Andy Pieters 13 Sep '12

13 Sep '12

HI guys If this is beyond the scope of the list, then please accept my apologies. I am trying to install the entire OpenStack stack on Arch Linux and keep running into an issue with the keystone service. As far as I understand it, most of it is written in Python. To install the keystone service, I created a PKGBUILD file (see attachment) which seems to work fine,but the resulting applications seem to be missing a key component. The error I keep getting is 'no module named server'. I have researched this error far and wide and nothing I find actually gives me any insight into why this error keeps happening. The packages I find for Fedora and Redhat and variants on pbone.net seem to include files that mine does not have. I am really unfamiliar with Pyhon so it could be that some files are only installed when other dependencies are present. I cannot seem to find any documentation on how to build OpenStack from scratch (other than for Debian, and Redhat/Fedora). I will also ask on the OpenStack mailing list if there is one, but does anyone have any clues as to why keystone-all keeps whining about not having a module named server? Thanksn

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[arch-general] Need to meet a tech guy
by Arno Gaboury 13 Sep '12

13 Sep '12

Dear list, I'm a 47 years old trader, and the current financial crisis forces me to change my job. I am working on few business projects which involve good tech knowledges. I am not a tech guy, just a sophisticated user (proudly running an Arch box) whith tech as a hobby. I nedd to gather informtaions for the tech part of my projects and would appreciate to talk with someone involved in the web and software industry. I am leaving in Geneva, Switzerland, and if one of you is here too and can spend a litle time to meet and answer my questions, please PM. French speaking and knowledges in R language <http://www.r-project.org would be a plus. Thank you.

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[arch-general] beginner's guide question networking
by Jude DaShiell 13 Sep '12

13 Sep '12

I did the steps for networking setup in beginner's guide on the archlinux wiki and was told that the second network setup would make the network persistent. I noticed in the section for wireless both auto-net-wireless and auto-net-wired were mentioned but auto-net-wired was not mentioned as a daemon to add to the rc.conf file daemons line in the wired network setup instructions. Is there a good reason for that omission? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- jude <jdashiel(a)shellworld.net> Adobe fiend for failing to Flash

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[arch-general] Systemd and time synchronisation problems
by mike cloaked 12 Sep '12

12 Sep '12

Recently I changed permanently to systemd - however I have noticed that the system clock is out by some minutes just after I have booted up and see for example: [mike@lapmike3 ~]$ chronyc tracking Reference ID : 178.32.55.58 (gateway.omega.org.uk) Stratum : 3 Ref time (UTC) : Tue Sep 11 10:03:20 2012 System time : 158.888610840 seconds fast of NTP time Frequency : 5.454 ppm fast Residual freq : -1.577 ppm Skew : 13.260 ppm Root delay : 0.062475 seconds Root dispersion : 0.029119 seconds I would not mind a second or two out - but 158 seconds is not acceptable - and if I reboot then the clock is immediately out by the same amount until it eventually re-syncs after quite a long time (10s of minutes!) I thought I would check the hardware clock but : [root@lapmike3 ~]# hwclock -r hwclock: Cannot access the Hardware Clock via any known method. hwclock: Use the --debug option to see the details of our search for an access method. I had originally set up chrony which does eventually after some time get the system clock back in sync - I do have dumponexit in my /etc/chrony.conf but presume somewhere along the way in the transition from iniscripts there is a configuration error? I have in my /etc/adjtime: 0.000000 0 0.000000 0 UTC I am running KDE - and until the system clock is re-synced it is quite a bit off - this presumable also means that mail time stamps will be wrong until the clock resets properly - I have looked at the chrony and systemd arch wiki entries but I can't find a way to get this sorted out - can anyone help out? Thanks -- mike c

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[arch-general] new install: files under /etc/fonts/conf.d/ not symlinks?
by phanisvara das 12 Sep '12

12 Sep '12

a couple days ago, after the problematic fontconfig update was already done, i installed a new instance of arch no a separate partitionl (via pacman -r / chroot, from my existing, updated arch instance). now i'm surprised to find that the files under /etc/fonts/conf.d/ aren't symlinks, but real files again -- and pacman doesn't complain...how comes? (this install has [testing] enabled, if that makes a difference.) -- phani.

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