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[arch-general] systemd and local group membership
by Dave Morgan 29 Oct '12

29 Oct '12

Hi, The systemd wiki article says: "Note: Adding your user to groups (optical, audio, scanner, ...) is not necessary with systemd. It might even break the wanted functionality if you do so." What are the the technical reasons for group membership breaking functionality when using systemd? -- Dave.

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[arch-general] bootchart confusion
by G. Schlisio 29 Oct '12

29 Oct '12

hi list, i am confused about bootchart{,2}. in aur [1] its called bootchart2, in community we have bootchart [2]. in the aur there is a comment from tom, that [1] is going to be replaced by [2]. now [2] is bootchart version 1.20, so it does not look like bootchart2 to me. so which one is the most recent bootchart2 and maybe we can clean this (naming, moving, whatever) to make it clearer? thanks georg [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=51576 [2] https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/bootchart/

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Re: [arch-general] Moving CK-removal + GNOME 3.6? Announcement draft.
by Greg Bouzakis 29 Oct '12

29 Oct '12

Tom Gundersen wrote: > What about: > > "ConsoleKit replaced by logind > > With GNOME 3.6, polkit and networkmanager moving to extra, ConsoleKit > has now been removed from the repositories. Any package that > previously depended on it now relies on systemd-logind instead. That > means that the system must be booted with systemd to be fully > functional. > > In addition to GNOME, both KDE and XFCE are also affected by this change." This is mostly OK but not only users of DE's are affected. Its pretty much everyone but at least a mention on DM's should be added as well. And probably a mention on [0] as a solution for people not using one. [0]: http://blog.falconindy.com/articles/back-to-basics-with- x-and-systemd.html My 2 cents Greg

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[arch-general] imagemagick problem
by David Benfell 28 Oct '12

28 Oct '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I think I have stumbled over a packaging bug. It appeared with an imagemagick upgrade that occurred today. Here is the error I am seeing repeatedly: PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php/modules/imagick.so' - libMagickWand.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0 I tried chasing this down: atlanta% ls -al /usr/lib/libMagickWand* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Oct 27 15:51 /usr/lib/libMagickWand.so - -> libMagickWand.so.6.0.0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Oct 27 15:51 /usr/lib/libMagickWand.so.6 -> libMagickWand.so.6.0.0 - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1143016 Oct 27 15:52 /usr/lib/libMagickWand.so.6.0.0 atlanta% pacman -Qo /usr/lib/libMagickWand.so.6.0.0 /usr/lib/libMagickWand.so.6.0.0 is owned by imagemagick 6.8.0.3-1 atlanta% Assuming I'm right that this is a packaging bug, where should I be reporting it? And if I'm wrong and it is not a packaging bug, what should I do? Thanks! - -- David Benfell benfell(a)parts-unknown.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQjLmOAAoJEP0r2H01qrjgkk0P/3fIMfR1IRaPcMiDgPgwa109 rZ0fghJ9PwMpOPleFWwnnwNHn83jOp/luyQXRd9f/MKxO8CjTmV6T2jCoC3+nDPx 1s4I+q2XfTEaBCI62DAZAe6sSoLcZ6zqH5OHcAmYIhPbUx0pdn56t8Vp0+ytwE8e sTgrquOjEz0NZCgGAD2PW1i+VDQAJRxkMMb8I6/D9eO2cLnLn97JPmTnRRtLw86X 7i/s2gEjbEHR7lALQNPcyWSX9ipUFw+Ps6oilVUrvpNH5+oa5t+RdJpnt5md9CV4 DQ+PEF7r3YoRYXbsLUAJ/lQ7V7g8TizKvtehdbOAf931gZVarE0VLAjvmNbZAyt5 80/wKVSAvRi4RvaNW2AuFInx3w1MU6lsHUPt923/8GlxAZReJsgfk67t8rlpSmfY 6kOzCVgnJsKDFdUj3mTxI5z943TZ++K3E+NJ4yjXbC+k8ikzJdi4+Li/bi0WtY2t AIRZ5KYyne3jyPwNcDv3gszdxZlYeDlBNzzVv0vlBEWd+BrBIOvHYDFvKI54MNqa f+ocUk/MV+XI2f8lO4gdvw9e7vpMdKvaNo+pWD3XKPM5gy5qI2GbyxL0KxC+ZgDq qj90pK3WUhv4uDJH2OpALW+4Uu6OIfBPd5LGH9owIoyUV9naZ9lrtkWLGPT4qTt9 8ma09CSXl84xWEWIJiBn =elHe -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] Btrfs snapshots for upgrade operations
by Leonidas Spyropoulos 28 Oct '12

28 Oct '12

Hello all, Firstly can a TU or developer few it to the dev mailing list, as I don't have access. Archlinux is supporting btrfs for root filesystem some time now. Have any work or thoughts been done for supporting snapshots before update packages? This way you can keep record of what's happening to your system and easily rollback if something breaks. I know Fedora and Suse (if not mistaken) supports that with their package managers. Of course I am talking about an optional feature enabled only from the user, not by default. Thoughts, ideas, discussion are welcome. Regards Leonidas

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[arch-general] help
by SMR 28 Oct '12

28 Oct '12

Hello.I'm a new users of Archlinux but using Ubuntu for 3 years. I have installed all the system following the guide of beginner's guide. and I found I could not ping to google after I reboot my computer however just as 5 minutes before I had just used pacman to install all the packages i needed. and then I use “systemctl enable dhcpcd@ ” hoping to reset the Internet connection but the shell tells me“ Fail to issue method call:Read-only file system” Does anyone know what's the problem? Thank you!

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[arch-general] Local packages newer than ones from core?
by kendell clark 28 Oct '12

28 Oct '12

Hi all I just tried to update my internal system with #pacman -Syyu tonight and recieved the following warnings from pacman. warning: binutils: local (2.23-1) is newer than core (2.22-10) warning: e2fsprogs: local (1.42.6-1) is newer than core (1.42.5-1) warning: gcc: local (4.7.2-2) is newer than core (4.7.2-1) warning: gcc-libs: local (4.7.2-2) is newer than core (4.7.2-1) warning: glib2: local (2.34.1-1) is newer than core (2.32.4-1) warning: glibc: local (2.16.0-5) is newer than core (2.16.0-4) warning: hwids: local (20121022-1) is newer than core (20121012-1) warning: iproute2: local (3.6.0-2) is newer than core (3.5.1-1) warning: iptables: local (1.4.16.2-1) is newer than core (1.4.15-1) warning: linux-api-headers: local (3.6.3-1) is newer than core (3.5.5-1) warning: perl: local (5.16.1-2) is newer than core (5.16.1-1) I don't mean to sound like a noob but I still am, smiles. I've never seen this warning message before and as far as I know this isn't possible, as I only pull packages from core, community, and multilib. I have built some local aur packages, espeak development version, dropbox, dropbox daemon, and mangler. THis could be the cause, although I'm not sure how to find out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. i'm beginning to really love arch, especially without pulseaudio. One final note: I have the linux-lts package installed as opposed to the latest 3.6.x kernel, as speakup is broken in kernels later tahn 3.4. Thanks Kendell clark

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[arch-general] Guile's last version
by Igor Sosa Mayor 27 Oct '12

27 Oct '12

Hi, is there a reason why guile is not in the last stable version (2.0.6) which is out at least since July? thanks in advance! -- :: Igor Sosa Mayor :: joseleopoldo1792(a)gmail.com :: :: GnuPG: 0x1C1E2890 :: http://www.gnupg.org/ :: :: jabberid: rogorido :: ::

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[arch-general] kbuildsycoca taking more than 6 hours to run is it normal? machine specs included
by Victor Silva 27 Oct '12

27 Oct '12

Folks I have an arch_64 installation. Specs as follows: *-Computer- Processor : 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor Memory : 8180MB (2200MB used) Operating System : Arch Linux User Name : imanewbie (Unknown) Date/Time : Sat 27 Oct 2012 01:41:13 PM BRST -Display- Resolution : 1920x1080 pixels OpenGL Renderer : Unknown X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation -Multimedia- Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia Audio Adapter : USB-Audio - Microsoft® LifeCam VX-2000 Audio Adapter : USB-Audio - Logitech G930 Headset -Input Devices- Razer Razer BlackWidow Razer Razer BlackWidow Razer Razer BlackWidow Razer Razer DeathAdder Logitech Logitech G930 Headset Power Button Power Button PC Speaker HDA ATI SB Line HDA ATI SB Front Mic HDA ATI SB Rear Mic HDA ATI SB Front Headphone HDA ATI SB Line Out Side HDA ATI SB Line Out CLFE HDA ATI SB Line Out Surround HDA ATI SB Line Out Front Generic X-Box pad Generic X-Box pad Generic X-Box pad Generic X-Box pad Microsoft® LifeCam VX-2000 HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm : 9= HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm : 8= HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm : 7= HDA NVidia HDMI/DP,pcm : 3= -Printers- No printers found -SCSI Disks- ATA SAMSUNG HD501LJ ATA SAMSUNG HD322HJ HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H55N Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 *I`ve tried to install kovpn (Kde Openvpn frontend + openvpn), during this process I was asked to build kbuildsycoca. The process is istill running after 6 hours. Is it normal? Are there any other ovpn clients you would recommend? Regards, Victor

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[arch-general] aur down?
by Leonidas Spyropoulos 26 Oct '12

26 Oct '12

Is aur server down? -- Caution: breathing may be hazardous to your health. #include <stdio.h> int main(){printf("%s","\x4c\x65\x6f\x6e\x69\x64\x61\x73");}

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