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[arch-general] systemd
by Fred Verschueren 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

First of all I 'm new user of these distribution list and I do not know if this is the correct place to post my problem and ask for help. If not my apology and please refer me to to the correct place. I' m using Arch now for several years on a desktop and a laptob without severe problems. Few days ago I changed to systemd both on the laptop and desktop. For the laptop all went fine and I' m able to boot using systemd and the system is up and running as before. The only difference between laptop and desktop is that the /home partition on the desktop is on a SW raid My problem: When booting with init=/bin/systemd I have the following phenomenon: Job dev-mapper-nvidia_cjjcaiiep1.device/start timed out and booting stops and I'm in a rescue shell. my /home partition is not mounted. /dev/mapper/nvidia_cjjcaiiep1 exists. Systemctl start dev-mapper-nvidia_cjjcaiiep1.device gives the same result timeout. and my /home is not mounted When I do a manual mount of the /home partition mount /dev/mapper/nvidia_cjjcaiiep1 /home /home is mounted Systemctl default my system resumes booting and finally comes online. I 'm new to systemd so if someone can be so kind to give me some hints how / where to start searching for the problem or maybe the problem is already known ... Thanks in advance. Fred

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Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd
by mike cloaked 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:23 PM, teseo(a)broletto.org <teseo(a)broletto.org> wrote: >> most of which are systems using systemd. Given that so many machines >> are currently running systemd it can't be all that bad! This is of >> > How many machines are currently running Windows*? > Surely that is not particularly relevant - Windows users are largely people who are not computer literate (though some fraction of Windows users are able to do some real hacking but not too many as a fraction of the total). They are users who got Windows as "the" system when they bought their laptops/desktops, and are none the wiser that any alternative exists - on the other hand the majority of linux users are computer literate, hands-on, people who know that they have choices - and if they are using a particular flavour of linux and find they don't like it then they have the knowledge and power to change it and move to a different distribution - so the majority of Windows users who find problems will seek a Windows guru to fix their machine ( or re-install it from scratch, clean up the registry, run "defrag" and other tools to try and get working until Microsoft eventually delivers the next great version of Windows ). On the other hand linux users if they "really" don't like what they see will change their system - if they don't like Gnome they can use KDE, LXDE, XFCE etc - and if they are Fedora users and "really" don't like systemd then they can move to another distribution where systemd is not the default - they have alternatives - So logic would suggest that the inferences drawn from large numbers of linux users is likely to be different from the inference about even larger numbers of Windows users. -- mike c

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Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd
by teseo＠broletto.org 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

Jn Inviato da HTC ----- Reply message ----- Da: "Jorge Almeida" <jjalmeida(a)gmail.com> A: "General Discussion about Arch Linux" <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> Oggetto: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd Data: ven, ago 17, 2012 11:48 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:31 AM, mike cloaked <mike.cloaked(a)gmail.com> wrote: > most of which are systems using systemd. Given that so many machines > are currently running systemd it can't be all that bad! This is of > How many machines are currently running Windows*? Jorge Almeida

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[arch-general] fprint with gdm
by Δημήτρης Ζέρβας 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

hello, can anyone help me use fprint with gdm? su, sudo and login works just nice also, when I try to fprint-enroll wether i specify -f left-index-finger or not, it will ask for my right index thank you in advance! -- (\_ /) copy the bunny to your profile (0.o ) to help him achieve world domination. (> <) come join the dark side. /_|_\ (we have cookies.)

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[arch-general] Suspend to ram and uresume hook for systemd
by Myra Nelson 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

Since I'm still wading my way through some of the intricacies (read small details) and in view of the recent discussion on libcrypt, keysize, key values, and systemd; I've been using uswsusp-git from the aur and s2ram -f for my suspend command. /etc/suspend.conf has /dev/snapshot and /dev/sda4 (swap) for the image. Suspension and reboot have been working fine. After rebuilding my initramfs image with the uresume hook, when I tried to reboot today the boot process hung at waiting for libgcrypt. In my infinite wisdom, after testing the suspend and reboot several times before using the uresume hook, I had uresume in both images. I don't use encrypted volumes and never have. I chrooted in and rebuilt the initramfs image without the uresume hook, rebooted, and everything worked great. I tried using systemctl suspend from the wiki article. The machine goes down but won't come back up without a complete restart, fsck volumes that were not cleanly unmounted, etc. Since this is a desktop, I really don't need the suspend option, it's just nice to save a little electricity. The systemctl shutdown and sytemctl reboot work great. I admit to not having done a lot of research but based on the recent discussions and changes with systemd, does anyone know what caused this hiccup? Myra -- Life's fun when your sick and psychotic!

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[arch-general] Pacman, adding comments to the packages
by Joker-jar 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

Hello, I propose to add the ability to add comments to the packages in pacman. For example, sometimes you need to install packages as a optional or makedepend. I always do it with --as-deps key. Later, when you run "pacman -Qdt" to see and cleanup orphan packages you can't distinguish really orphan packages and packages installed via the reasons, describedabove. In this case comments to the packages could be very useful. Sorry fo my english :)

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[arch-general] Update on Trinity - 2 versions available R14 and 3.5.13-sru
by David C. Rankin 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

All, There have been a few noteworthy developments with the Trinity project for Arch. There will be essentially 2 versions available. The primary focus of the project is currently on TDE 14.0.0 (R14) which is TQt3 based and due to executable renaming, it can be installed along side kde4 without conflict. As R14 development went forward, new updates have been continually backported to the stable 3.5.13 branch of the GIT tree. This has resulted in a completely updated branch of TDE 3.5.13 code which is still Qt3 based and retains all backwards compatibility with KDE 3.5.10. This TDE branch is referred to as (3.5.13-sru). The backporting of updates and patches to 3.5.13-sru has created a branch in the GIT tree that can provide a traditional KDE3/Qt3 desktop built on all current Arch Linux libraries. To Arch users, this is essentially kdemod3.next. I have binaries available for both R14 and 3.5.13-sru that I need to find server space to host on. I have had several downloaded from my home server, but that is just not workable. I would like to get all of the binaries available to anyone interested for testing so that anything overlooked can be discovered and found. (Yes - sftp://whereever now work from any file open/save dialog now :) If anybody knows of available server space or can let me use ~1.2G of space, I can upload all 4 sets of packages R14.0.0/{i686,x86_64} and 3.5.13-sru/{i686,x86_64}. Let me know if you or anyone you know have some to spare. My guess there would probably be a dozen downloads from interested Archers. Let me know. Thanks! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Some funny bloke
by Fons Adriaensen 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

Some funny bloke just sent me a bogus 'please confirm your request to unsubscribe' message. Probably because I suggested that Lennart's blog is not the ideal place to find unbiased information regarding systemd if you want to inform yourself before participating in the poll. Which is just a fact, confirmed (in private communication) by two systemd advocates, and plainly obvious anyway. For some people apparently any means is OK to silence an opinion they don't agree with. What will be next ? Ciao, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

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[arch-general] Lennart Poettering on udev-systemd
by Jayesh Badwaik 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

Hi, Another flame may start here, but I would like to present the following as a pure news, no opinions[1]. Of course, after reading all the discussions on the mailing lists, my feeling after reading the link? Mwuhahahaha. Important quotes from the link ( which I hope do not alter the context of the post): "Well, we intent to continue to make it possible to run udevd outside of systemd. But that's about it. We will not polish that, or add new features to that or anything. OTOH we do polish behaviour of udev when used *within* systemd however, and that's our primary focus. And what we will certainly not do is compromise the uniform integration into systemd for some cosmetic improvements for non-systemd systems. (Yes, udev on non-systemd systems is in our eyes a dead end, in case you haven't noticed it yet. I am looking forward to the day when we can drop that support entirely.)" -- Cheers and Regards Jayesh Badwaik stop html mail | always bottom-post www.asciiribbon.org | www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html [1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012- August/006066.html

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[arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.4.9-1
by Tobias Powalowski 16 Aug '12

16 Aug '12

Hi guys, please signoff 3.4.9 series for both arches. package is not in testing, please grab it from here: http://dev.archlinux.org/~tpowa/linux/ This will move to [core] directly, because 3.5.2 is in [testing]. greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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