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[arch-general] About arch-install-scripts and new official iso.
by fredbezies 17 Jul '12

17 Jul '12

Hello. I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like good old arch/setup ? I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] crazy mount process
by Andrea Crotti 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

I just finished to get my computer running again, I did a "pacman -Suf", and the glibc issue made my machine unusable.. Anyway I fixed that easily without reinstalling anything luckily, but now on reboot I see something very strange. There is a process running and keeping my machine busy: 357 root 20 0 10700 1004 856 R 99.7 0.0 7:01.50 /bin/mount -o relatime /dev/sda3 /media/usbhd-sda3 but /dev/sda3 is not even a real partition "/dev/sda3 240975 625137344 312448185 5 Extended I can't kill that process and don't understand where it comes from... any idea?

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[arch-general] Glibc problems still failing
by P NIKOLIC 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

Hi . Well i have followed the the info on the arch site but still can not upgrade glibc i get this error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files) glibc: /lib exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/ld-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libSegFault.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libanl-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libanl.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libc-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libc.so.6 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libcidn.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libcrypt.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libdl-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libdl.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libm-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libm.so.6 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libmemusage.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnsl.so.1 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_compat.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_db.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns-2.16.so exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_dns.so.2 exists in filesystem glibc: /usr/lib/libnss_files-2.16.so exists in filesystem Plus a few more how do i get round this please it is also preventing Claws-Mail from sending mail Thanks .. Pete .

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[arch-general] login fails after update
by Fons Adriaensen 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

Hello all, I did a complete upgrade following the instructions w.r.t. the /lib symlink, and indeed ended up with pacman -Su saying 'nothing to do' and /lib being a symlink. On rebooting I get the login prompt on tty1..6, but after entering a login nothing happens (no passwd prompt) and after a few seconds the screen is cleared and the login prompt returns. Any ideas ? -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

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[arch-general] Fwd: arch-general Digest, Vol 93, Issue 66
by fredbezies 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

First of all, sorry for this "all-in-one" answer, I do have to set options :| [...] >I think you want to use ArchBoot, the oldest oficial setup. I do have an archboot iso on an usb key. [...] >Personally I think we would be better off with just these scripts + >lots of documentation. If you are interested in an installer, then I >guess the best solution is to get involved with the AIF and get it >into shape again. If I had the technical background, I would have done it :D >> I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users >> which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. >I think this is a good thing (once we have proper documentation). It >forces users to understand how their system is set up, and how to fix >it in case of problems. Unlike with other distributions (e.g. Ubuntu), >I think this is a necessity when using Arch, and making this clear >from the beginning should hopefully save both us and users from lots >of grief. I do agree. But those kind of breakage are not that current. Using archlinux since end of 2008 it is the first hard upgrade I faced for a long time. And of course, it will help users showing them if archlinux is a distro for them or not. [...] > I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users > which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. >In view of the many issues and complaints related to the move from /lib >to /usr/lib, it seems pretty clear to me that most people who are >uncomfortable partitioning their disk manually (or unwilling to learn) >will not grow to enjoy Arch as a distribution. I do agree. Having a wrapper around these scripts could an answer in a way. And many many problems for /lib are related to 3rd party packages. [...] >> Hello. >> >> I've read the wiki page for arch-install-scripts. It is not very >> "user-friendly". Any hope to see this "embedded" in a program, like >> good old arch/setup ? >> >> I'm not afraid of these scripts, but it could drive away some users >> which are not ready for a so "simplified" installation tool. >> >Archboot: >https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Archboot >https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=143541 My favourite ISO :) >It uses a working installer for quite everything. I do agree, even if grub2 install is kinda busted. I reported a bug related to this issue => https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30565 >For complete systemd support next ISO would be better to use, Full systemd ? Yummy :D >I'm only waiting for core changes to calm down first. >greetings >tpowa Thanks for the info, Tobias ! -- Frederic Bezies fredbezies(a)gmail.com

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[arch-general] Upgraded kmod, but --ignored linux & glibc, modules still in /lib - can I reboot safely?
by David C. Rankin 16 Jul '12

16 Jul '12

Tom, All, I see the glibc /lib move is out of testing. I updated with --ignore linux,glibc and received an install warning from kmod stating: ==> Kernel modules are now only read from /usr/lib/modules... My modules are still shown in /lib. Does this mean I cannot reboot safely and expect it to work? Since I wanted to delay install of the new kernel and glibc, should I also have excluded kmod? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] must be root to ping?
by David Benfell 14 Jul '12

14 Jul '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey all, Did I miss something? I now have to use sudo in order to ping: graton% ping 10.1.0.1 ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted graton% sudo ping 10.1.0.1 PING 10.1.0.1 (10.1.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 10.1.0.1: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.407 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.1: icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=0.367 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.1: icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=0.345 ms 64 bytes from 10.1.0.1: icmp_req=4 ttl=64 time=0.361 ms ^C - --- 10.1.0.1 ping statistics --- 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 2997ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.345/0.370/0.407/0.022 ms I thought maybe this was related to the glibc mess, so I finished cleaning that up (now everything is in /usr/lib with a symbolic link created for /lib), but that annoyance made no difference. - -- David Benfell benfell(a)parts-unknown.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQAYYJAAoJELT202JKF+xpJPgP/AhURBfrWADG1eR7Pt2dhaXD twMwg4XSV9FzYM3AMZp4frTRAt/oYIZDD/VXxg6BNoJAt+woKoPI+8Zlj4b2ndNJ DaSBf5ckJAYVHrRzNH3OuCxOudGzPZ9mrJBEpH7SVzx6IOEYSL3U+rRbWrMo0uYf utwpOhbJX2d4EuTggWoON8Iayglz/UB4SQJAuO3gm9+/cDGk6s/1is0n1k42t0iA J84FfH4XUdvDZoJl6f2pAq4tV+Xv2IGnsCWWEh6/ry59r4q5vv2j00K4BWy8DwA4 078bPW24kGR1uRipVW9RvmEa9SkQJ4F35+YoJF4vXU7nOqpLrrObOX0eYwQCT5s5 wsO6FkQvzUiDmL6t2/l2VhCd6KUsWXowR4gyslx4+064SYO2OIfA1ikwxpwMAUJO JXuj3AApauw96QAk//aHI0823WIkS32nh1yhtwBqofoKz3RG91nRsTJfHt1q9f7H etN2D1BRx8MHsTyetPNP8uEu7zLgieA4OXvJr0fAV3RHZFTZLE1RKJF6SpdafCBc UzobDRWBNz31mF5GepLAgsfctTlmy3em336o65voVjdmRdKuTLFkLPIhCaEY7s92 h3pnr3wyxH9KuP50s8wCjJYvD63wSfWbo7kCrsI+C9fqHQ4DTrYTNscioT+Gw8Os vXrWn3f3bH8PjbZSyNyw =l0bB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[arch-general] Download wiki arch!
by Omar Basit 14 Jul '12

14 Jul '12

Hello, I've begun to use arch instead of Ubuntu, and it seems great, especially the (wiki.archlinux.org) but it is only available online, and I am in need of an offline source with such rich information, I did some googling, but all I get is how to download Wikipedia, or using of websucker.. So, is there anyway I can download wiki.archlinux.org, or anything equivalent? Any advice would be appreciated! Best regards.

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[arch-general] rpcgen - cannot find any C preprocessor?
by David C. Rankin 14 Jul '12

14 Jul '12

All, I have a new build error with tdebase (kdebase) in trinity that I think is the result of a hardwired path somewhere and some recent gcc change. The error I get is: [ 49%] Built target libkmanpart-module [ 49%] Generating nfs_prot_xdr.c cannot find any C preprocessor (cpp) rpcgen: C preprocessor failed with exit code 1 ?? It has always built without issue. Looking, I find https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1126084#p1126084 which references a hardcoded path problem in hamlib that was fixed by providing specific path information to rpcgen. My question is, has there been some change to gcc that would be expected to cause this type error? I ask to confirm this before I start hacking the TDE build files on my end. Has anyone else seen this issue pop up lately? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] arch with a specific kernel version
by andrea crotti 13 Jul '12

13 Jul '12

I would like to create multiple arch linux installations with a specific (a quite old 2.6 version) kernel version. Is that in theory possible/easy? I have a new one recently created but the downport doesn't seem so easy, so maybe it would just be easier to start with an older one, any suggestions??

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