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[arch-general] grub/grub2 final - some questions
by mike cloaked 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

Subject: Re: [arch-dev-public] grub/grub2 final On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Ronald van Haren <pressh(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I was about to post a similar message... > > Anyway, I was planning to drop support of grub1. There has been no > upstream for a long time and all newer features are patched in or > require additional patches. I don't see a need to have it in [extra] > as grub-legacy. No problem uploading it to AUR so people can continue > to use it if they want, although you need i686 to build it so that > could be the only reason to keep it in [extra] for a bit... > > I've seen no major breakages in grub2 since beta2 iirc. Upstream > development has been going towards stability in recent betas and I > would consider it stable at the moment: there were no real bug reports > in the bugtracker for the last few months. > > I'd like to move 2.00 to [core] via [testing] when it is released, > letting the grub-bios (atm grub2-bios) replace the old grub package. > Adding an install message and a news item is probably a good idea at > the time. > > I'll be pushing grub2 rc1 to [testing] in a moment if you want to give > it a try. Final 2.00 release should be in one of the next days. I am slightly confused by some of the options that will become available once grub2 becomes the supported package in [core]. For someone who currently has hardware without EFI firmware (or any choice of switching in the BIOS menus), and boots via BIOS-grub- and with MBR and conventional partitions with an x86_64 arch system - then will it still be possible to boot with the only change being to move from grub to grub2 (using grub2-bios)? I am certainly confused about how UEFI fits in with that scenario. Would it be the same for someone running as above with 32 bit packages only? For a system based on hardware without EFI so that there is no option in the "BIOS" to switch from BIOS to EFI is there some magic that needs to happen for the BIOS to boot and then load UEFI code and support GPT partitions? Maybe I am the only one who is confused about these linked changes to BIOS/UEFI grub/grub2 and the system partitioning MBR/GPT? Is there a good clear link to an explanation of how this all fits together and what the options will be? I guess that in the future hardware will increasingly be purchased which has UEFI enabled by default (and at some point BIOS will presumably vanish altogether) with huge hard drive capacities, but at the moment many systems purchased in the past decade and still in use are not UEFI based, so the choices available to users need to be clear as grub2 and new options and code are developed for the boot process. Thanks in advance. -- mike c

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] grub/grub2 final
by Keshav P R 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:00 AM, Pierre Schmitz <pierre(a)archlinux.de> wrote: > Am 24.06.2012 22:54, schrieb Ionut Biru: >> On 06/24/2012 11:37 PM, Ronald van Haren wrote: >>> sorry I meant pkgbase >>> >>> Ronald >>> >> >> it's fine to have pkgbase=grub. > > I fear it's not as grub already has this pkgbase. They have to be > unique and also refer to their name in the svn repo. pacman itself does > not care about pkgbase though. > This can be solved by renaming grub(1) to grub-legacy and current grub2 to grub. - Keshav > -- > Pierre Schmitz, https://pierre-schmitz.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] grub/grub2 final
by Genes MailLists 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

On 06/24/2012 03:51 PM, Ronald van Haren wrote: .. > > I'll be pushing grub2 rc1 to [testing] in a moment if you want to give > it a try. Final 2.00 release should be in one of the next days. > > Cheers, > Ronald > [replying in arch-general] Is there anything special that users of [testing] need to do to keep things booting ok (UEFI and/or BIOS)? Or is a simple pacman -Syu sufficient? Thanks gene

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[arch-general] Server space to host Arch TDE binaries for testing?
by David C. Rankin 27 Jun '12

27 Jun '12

All, (kaiting), Does anyone have server space available to host Trinity binaries for Arch for testing? Currently the size requirements for TDE binaries is ~270 Meg per architecture (~540 M for both i686 & x86_64). The package list currently building on Arch is here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trinity#Completed_Packages_-_14.0.0_de… If you have an interest in building/testing, let me know and I'll package a set of source packages (PKGBUILD's + patches) and make them available. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] icedtea-web should have provides (?)
by Marek Otahal 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Hi, for bloom-facebook package I need to ensure a dependency that runs java applets and WebStart. This is provided by icedtea-web-java7 (for openjdk7), icedtea-web (openjdk6) and probably part of JRE (Oracle/Sun Java). Could there be some provides say 'java-webstart' for these packages so I needn't to force a specific java version/provider on users? Like the situation with 'java-runtime', you get the idea.. Any solutions? Thanks, Mark -- Marek Otahal :o)

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[arch-general] nvidia 295.59-1 dmesg output
by gt 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Hey guys, after upgrading to 295.59 from 295.53, i am seeing the following in the dmesg output: NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console NVRM: on the primary VGA device. The NVIDIA Linux graphics driver NVRM: requires the use of a text-mode VGA console. Use of other console NVRM: drivers including, but not limited to, vesafb, may result in NVRM: corruption and stability problems, and is not supported. Any idea what this is about. Seems to be about the framebuffer driver. But earlier no configuration was needed for that. Moreover the virtual console seems to be working fine. Anyone else got a similar message in the log?

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[arch-general] k3b/cdrecord problem burning dual layer disc
by gt 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Hey folks A few days ago i was trying to burn an iso to a dual layer dvd, but i got an i/o error. Thankfully though the burn failed, but it spared the disc :) I tried downgrading cdrtools but that didn't fix it either. I found out that the iso was about 4200 MB in size and apparently trying to burn it to a dual layer dvd gave me the error. I tried burning a larger iso, about 6500 MB to the same disc and it went fine. Also burning the smaller iso to a single layer dvd went fine too. So there was no problem with the iso. So, i think there's a bug in cdrecord or maybe k3b? Trying to burn a single layer dvd sized iso to a double layer dvd fails. Can others confirm the same?

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[arch-general] Campaign against Secure Boot
by Manolo Martínez 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Is Arch going to sign [this petition](http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/state… I, for one humble user, would like it (us, whatever) to. Manolo --

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[arch-general] soft_irq_pending
by Arno Gaboury 26 Jun '12

26 Jun '12

Dear list, I boot in runlevel 3, *Kernel 3.4.4-2*. When I am at the login prompt, I can see this: magnolia login [ here is a number] NOHZ= *local_softirq_pending 08*. Pressing Enter give me back the login prompt, and then I can log and startx. I find this message in my *var/log/kernel.log* file too. Is there anything I can do? This is new, and think (not sure) it appeared after upgrading to 3.4.4-2. TY.

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[arch-general] What replaced tunepimp for lookup - if anything?
by David C. Rankin 25 Jun '12

25 Jun '12

Guys, tpowa used to support the tunepimp package that is/was used by amarok for music lookup, etc.. That package has been dropped. It wont even build currently (probably gcc 4.7.1 issues) I need to figure out what if anything replaced it. Was it replaced by anything or just dropped? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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