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[arch-general] Including compiled C.UTF-8 locale by default in glibc package? Inbox
by Daan De Meyer 22 Feb '22

22 Feb '22

Hi, Now that glibc 2.35 is available, could we enable and ship the compiled form of the new C.UTF-8 locale in glibc by default in Arch Linux? >From the glibc 2.35 release notes (https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2022-February/136040.html): > * Support for the C.UTF-8 locale has been added to glibc. The locale > supports full code-point sorting for all valid Unicode code points. A > limitation in the framework for fnmatch, regexec, and regcomp requires > a compromise to save space and only ASCII-based range expressions are > supported for now (see bug 28255). The full size of the locale is > only ~400KiB, with 346KiB coming from LC_CTYPE information for > Unicode. This locale harmonizes downstream C.UTF-8 already shipping > in various downstream distributions. The locale is not built into > glibc, and must be installed. Being able to rely on the existence of a UTF-8 english locale simplifies many use cases. A good example of issues introduced due to a lack of a built-in UTF-8 locale is https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/8340 which is a workaround added in 2018 that still exists today. Having the C.UTF-8 locale available by default in Arch would enable removing such workarounds. Any thoughts? Cheers, Daan De Meyer

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[arch-general] Backlight Brightness Indicator in LXDE
by naicam|ne 20 Feb '22

20 Feb '22

I just got my brightness keys working and I'm looking for a pretty minimal "brightness indicator" to show me a rough percentage. I am explicitly trying to avoid any Gnome or KDE dependencies, and would prefer not to use the AUR, if there's a good one in the main repos. I'm thinking it might have to come with some power management package, but I'm not really sure. -- __ _ ____ _ ____ ____ _ _ _ __ _ ____ | \| |--| | |___ |--| |\/| | | \| |===

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[arch-general] Link libutil.so not in glibc 2.35-2.
by SET 19 Feb '22

19 Feb '22

Hi, I ran into an issue building an application that complained libutil.so was not found. It's not in /usr/lib indeed with glibc 2.35-2, while it was a link to libutil.so.1 -> libutil-2.32.so in glibc 2.32. Just creating the link fixed the build issue. I'm wondering if it's a new library deployment scheme, or it the link was missed during packaging. Regards.

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[arch-general] Linux server crash causing router switch to stop working
by David Rosenstrauch 16 Feb '22

16 Feb '22

Been experiencing a weird issue several times recently that's got me stumped. A couple of weeks ago, my entire home network went dead right in the middle of a zoom call. Same problem happened again late last night. The problem is intermittent/occasional: everything runs without issue for several days, then suddenly crashes. I figured the issue was a problem with my wifi router, but after much debugging I don't think that's the case. I have a new (Arch) linux server I built a few weeks ago. What seems to be happening is that my server crashes for some reason - and then looks like it's causing the ethernet LAN switch inside my router to stop working. (I verified that when I unplug the server's network cable the router starts working again, and when I plug it back in the router stops.) My best guess as to what's happening is that when the server crashes it's somehow either flooding the network, or sending out invalid network packets, and so making the router inoperable. I have no idea what could cause this, though, or how to fix it. (Or even if this is definitely the issue.) I also have no way to know if this is an issue with my server hardware vs. say an issue in a recent kernel upgrade, since the server is so new. Server is running Arch, and is kept very up to date. It's using the on-board LAN chip on the mobo - Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE (network module r8169, RTL8125B chip/firmware). Router is a Netgear R8000, running dd-wrt (r47097). Any suggestions welcome! Thanks, DR

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[arch-general] Anonymous donation
by uick_ciller＠24mail.xyz 15 Feb '22

15 Feb '22

Hi! Arch Linux has become my favourite pastime and passion and I'd like to donate to the project. I have looked at the options (card payment or PayPal) and haven't found the possibility to hide my real name as I am really not that keen on sharing my name on the public list of donors: https://archlinux.org/donate/ Unfortunately, I am not a James Smith or Caron Lewis, but have a uniquely identifiable combination of first and last name, that means anyone could look me up on Google, because surely there exists no other name like this in the world. This is actually what I tried: I picked some uniquely looking names from the donors page, put them into Google and of course archlinux.org shows up. You may call me fussy, but I don't like the idea of my real name being linked to any of my actual hobbies/interests online. It should be nobody's business to know what my hobbies are (employers, ex-partners, I-am-gonna-say-it-yes-the-government)! I get it that archlinux.org wants to show appreciation by publicly sharing the list of donors, but I do not want it! Please, I beg you, do enable donors to opt out of being on the public list! Thanks! Goldmund

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[arch-general] Power Management on Thinkpad 5W30
by naicam|ne 13 Feb '22

13 Feb '22

I can't get power management working on my laptop. I have tlp-stat installed and it's showing a 1.9% capacity, but I don't think that's an accurate figure. This is a fairly new install. It worked fine under windows. I've been trying a lot of things, but at this point it feels more like I'm just going to do more damage trying things than actually making any progress on my own. One thing I don't know about is if this model supports the thinkpad_ec kernel module, because I cant get it to load. I'm also running the hardened kernel, and don't know if that's supported either. I'm not sure at this point that thats even the right direction to be going in. But this https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Laptop/Lenovo#W_series says that power management is supported, and this https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Tp_smapi#W_series seems to indicate that tp_smapi -doesn't- work with this model, but that's a little unclear to me, especially since that page was last updated in 2016. But simply setting the thresholds manually hasn't given me very good results at all. -- __ _ ____ _ ____ ____ _ _ _ __ _ ____ | \| |--| | |___ |--| |\/| | | \| |===

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[arch-general] git-annex-10.20220127-16: `GLIBC_2.34' not found
by Jesús Ruiz 12 Feb '22

12 Feb '22

When I run any git-annex command using git-annex-10.20220127-16 I get: /usr/bin/git-annex: /usr/lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.34' not found (required by /usr/bin/git-annex) The glibc version I have installed is 2.33-5, which is current according to https://archlinux.org/packages/?sort=&q=glibc&maintainer=&flagged= . The previous version git-annex-10.20220127-15 works fine.

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[arch-general] Donation options
by Frédéric Tobias Christ 11 Feb '22

11 Feb '22

Hi all, I want to donate to Arch Linux. However, the existing options both take high fees (SPI: Transaction fees via PayPal, Click&Pledge: 2.75% platform + 2,5 % credit card fee ) and I don't want to finance PayPal. What about adding Liberapay [1] <https://liberapay.com/> as a non-profit donations platform? They don't take any monthly fees <https://liberapay.com/about/faq#how-funded> [2], just pass on the payment process fees. For instance, Europeans can use SEPA transactions (without any fees). What do you think about it? PS: I also posted this [3] in the forum, but noticed shortly after that another thread about donation remains unnoticed by the people in charge. [1] https://liberapay.com/ [2] https://liberapay.com/about/faq#how-funded [3] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2021543#p2021543 -- Beste Grüße Frédéric Christ

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[arch-general] pkg rfc should be updated?
by Yi Zheng 07 Feb '22

07 Feb '22

Hi, 2021-06-25 , I asked to update it, and the it is done several days later. and now ?

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Re: [arch-general] Scope of arch-projects mailing list [was on arch-dev-public]
by David C. Rankin 07 Feb '22

07 Feb '22

On 2/3/22 5:53 AM, David Runge via arch-dev-public wrote: > Rationale: > We lack a mailing list that revolves around our internal projects and > which can also be used by non "elevated users" (such as Trusted Users > and Developers) for more general discussion. > Given the very low traffic on the arch-projects mailing list I see no > issue with it becoming a per-project discussion list as well (as in our > case mailing lists seem to be mainly used for discussion and not so much > for development anymore these days). > > Best, > David (food for thought, not a critique) Devs, There is always a desire to fragment mailing lists into ever smaller and smaller topics to reduce traffic to just what a handful of folks want to see. That can be useful, but list slicing also has a dramatic effect on the community. There are always questions that don't fit in one list or the other. The problem with separating lists is it tends to reduce the number of knowledgeable devs participating in general list QA. Which in turn transforms the general list from a place where knowledge of all topics is present to one where questions linger without an answer. This isn't an Arch problem yet, but I've watched over the last decade how creation of sublists and fragmentation of the openSUSE list has all but put a nail-in-the-coffin of the openSUSE community. Traffic did fall dramatically -- but so did users of the distro. Worth keeping in mind when discussing whether current or additional sublists are needed. Just my $.02 from watching the changes, and cause and effect, distros have gone through for the past 20+ years. There is nothing wrong with specialized developer lists -- so long as it doesn't result in brain-drain from the general list that impacts the general list usefulness. Like I said, not at Arch problem yet -- and let's hope it never is. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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