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[arch-general] On rolling release system and its benefits.
by Ali H. Caliskan 18 Mar '09

18 Mar '09

Hi, I've been using Arch since few months and I enjoy using it everyday that goes by. However, during that time, while helping Arch users on the forum, I've encountered some issues concerning upgrades and broken packages. I personally think Arch is stable and well maintained compared to other big distros, but that's a rolling release stability, that lasts only few days or weeks. What I would like Arch developers is to extend the rolling release into a snapshot release of an entire list of officially maintained packages, comprising both core and extra branches. At least it would be a great way of using Arch for 5 to 6 moths and then upgrade to a next snapshot release. I'm not talking about stable releases, just a snapshot of a rolling state. Snapshot releases does also benefit the natural need of closing bugs. Not to mention, it does make it easy to maintain orphaned packages as well. Regards, Ali

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Fixing licenses / sources
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 17 Mar '09

17 Mar '09

> The list : > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Snowman/License_Rebuild_TODO > > Eric Hi Eric, I made a list of 90 extra-packages from your list, that also have bad mandir Please see here: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13765#comment41164 Both isdn4k-utils and xinetd from core have bad mandir. Take care. Yahoo! Cocina Recetas prácticas y comida saludable http://ar.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.28.8-1
by Tobias Powalowski 17 Mar '09

17 Mar '09

Hi guys, new kernel adresses the following things: - bump to latest version fixed: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13717 please signoff for both arches greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] weird messages
by David Rosenstrauch 16 Mar '09

16 Mar '09

My server's been getting a load of weird messages in my dmesg and log files recently: Mar 16 06:38:27 darsys9 kernel: ata4: EH complete And sometimes also: Mar 16 06:38:27 darsys9 kernel: ata4: EH pending after 5 tries, giving up Anyone know what this is about and/or if there's some recent upgrade that might be causing it? I googled up some info about it (including a thread about it on the Arch forum), but all the info I could find is older and says that (at the time) the cause was a particular kernel version, and that upgrading the kernel would make it go away. But as I'm up-to-date with the current kernel, that's obviously not the issue now. Any info appreciated! TIA, DR

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[arch-general] keyboard shortcuts in nautilus
by Abhishek Dasgupta 16 Mar '09

16 Mar '09

Hi, I can change the keyboard shortcuts of Nautilus (2.24), but Nautilus forgets these keyboard shortcuts after logging out. This happens even if I've "Editable menu shortcut keys" turned on in Appearance. Any ideas on how to improve Nautilus' memory? :) I didn't find much help through Google. -- Abhishek

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[arch-general] cpu usage very high after update...
by Preston C. 16 Mar '09

16 Mar '09

My cpu monitor is almost reading 100%, right after I updated today. It was a very large update because I hadn't updated in about a month. Here is what "$top" gives me: top - 16:22:55 up 9 min, 2 users, load average: 1.36, 1.32, 0.68 Tasks: 99 total, 3 running, 96 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 34.8%us, 18.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 46.6%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 2073268k total, 698532k used, 1374736k free, 14572k buffers Swap: 2281220k total, 0k used, 2281220k free, 384848k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2973 preston 20 0 80996 19m 14m R 99 1.0 7:17.37 kded4 2931 root 20 0 331m 53m 4288 S 3 2.6 0:28.89 X 2999 preston 20 0 272m 38m 22m S 3 1.9 0:17.47 plasma 3076 preston 20 0 224m 95m 21m S 1 4.7 0:50.88 firefox 1 root 20 0 1688 576 512 S 0 0.0 0:00.71 init 2 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd 3 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0 4 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.02 ksoftirqd/0 5 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0 6 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/1 7 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/1 8 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/1 9 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 events/0 10 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 events/1 11 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper 12 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kstop/0 13 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kstop/1 14 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 kblockd/0 15 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kblockd/1 16 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid 17 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpi_notify 18 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 kseriod 19 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush 20 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.02 pdflush 21 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kswapd0 22 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0 23 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/1 32 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.01 ata/0 33 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ata/1 34 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ata_aux 38 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_0 39 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_1 Thanks for any help, Preston

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[arch-general] Xorg - Latest in repos
by Baho Utot 15 Mar '09

15 Mar '09

I have just installed arch onto a new SATA drive and isused a pacman -Syu to fetch the latest updates. I then continued on with alsa-utils then onto xorg Used pacman -S xorg to install xorg I then ran Xorg -configure which produced xorg.conf.new Started X -config /root/xorg.conf.new X started with the "X" in the screen at which it froze the machine requiring a hard reset (microsoft reset) Tried running X without a config file and it locked as well. Everytime I install X I have this problem, with the newer versions. What am I missing when I install? The Xorg wiki page I believe is out of date for the newer xorg versions. Can someone list the steps needed to install successfully? Thank you

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Out-of-date orphans in repo
by Damjan Georgievski 15 Mar '09

15 Mar '09

> Lately, I've been updating out-of-date orphans. So far I did the ones > that were easy to update/test so this is a status report on the > remaining ones. The purpose here is, ideally, to find maintainers for > them or at least testers (devs or users). > > BTW, make sure that you are listed as maintainer for both arches of > the packages you maintain even if you can't build the package for that > architecture. Several packages have only one of their arch adopted. > This clutters the list of orphaned and it spams the dev ML with > out-of-date notifications. > > Here the commented list: ... > userui: > I can't really test the rest. Is there anyone able/willing to test > updated packages for them? In fact, I didn't really checked them out. > evms and exim seems important so I'm not confortable to push them even > in testing without any good testing. For the rest, if noone comes > forward, I could test them as good as I can and push them to testing > then as for testers on the arch-general ML much like I did for the > scim stuff. Moving some of them to AUR is always a possibility. I use userui (since I use a TuxOnIce patched kernel) .. and I'm updateing this package myself too. Recently /usr/sbin/tuxoniceui_fbsplash can't be compiled on Arch since the Arch freetype package doesn't include the static (.a) library. So I can test an updated package. -- damjan

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] libcap rebuilds
by Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi 12 Mar '09

12 Mar '09

Hugo Doria wrote: > Packages that have libcap>=2.16 on makedepends: > > dnsmasq-2.45-2 > proftpd-1.3.1-2 (i updated to 1.3.2-1) > squid-2.7.STABLE6-2 > > > Hola Hugo :) Here are one change, proftpd with libcap-2.16 uses libcap as depend, (this don't happends with old libcap) See the diference: # readelf -a /usr/sbin/proftpd | grep cap 29: 00000000 67 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND capset@GLIBC_2.1 (3) 151: 00000000 67 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND capget@GLIBC_2.1 (3) # readelf -a /usr/sbin/proftpd | grep cap 0x00000001 (NEEDED) Shared library: [libcap.so.2] 46: 00000000 0 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND cap_set_proc 99: 00000000 0 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND cap_free 142: 00000000 0 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND cap_init 178: 00000000 0 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND cap_set_flag 183: 00000000 0 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND cap_to_text 184: 00000000 0 FUNC GLOBAL DEFAULT UND cap_get_proc It uses more advanced functions ;) syslog-ng, dnsmasq and squid are OK ;) -- Gerardo Exequiel Pozzi ( djgera ) http://www.djgera.com.ar KeyID: 0x1B8C330D Key fingerprint = 0CAA D5D4 CD85 4434 A219 76ED 39AB 221B 1B8C 330D

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[arch-general] Keyboad in KDE locks up
by Leonid Grinberg 12 Mar '09

12 Mar '09

Hello, Every once in a while -- not too frequently to be unusable, but certainly enough to be annoying -- the keyboard in KDE will simply lock up. Mouse will still work fine, and keyboard inputs that don't go through KDE -- switching to virtual terminals, resetting X via <ctrl>-<alt>-backspace still work (and, indeed, resetting X and logging back in is the only thing that fixes it). I can't see any real pattern as to when this happens -- programs that I basically always have running, though, are Pidgin, Firefox and keytouchd, as well as, obviously, plasma, etc. I am running the vanilla KDE 4.2 packages. Thanks in advance. This is really starting to become annoying. -- Leonid Grinberg

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