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[arch-general] [English] New Distro - Can't Read German
by pyther 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

I need you guys to recommend a new distro. Unfortunately I made a terrible mistake by taking Spanish two years ago (didn't learn much, but still...). This means I do not know German I will be unable to read man pages and what not! I am looking for an ENGLISH distro that is as similar to Arch Linux as possible. Any help would be great! Thank you, Pyther

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[arch-general] Dropping ipw3945 from core
by Thomas Bächler 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

After I discovered that my problems with the new Intel driver where related to dhclient and fixed the bug, I am now successfully using iwl3945 on my machine. It seems to be working perfectly, so I am considering dropping ipw3945 from core/support with the 2.6.25 release (so there will be no new package versions after ipw3945-1.2.2-8). This is intended as a warning, but also as a question: Is there anyone who cannot use iwl3945 instead of ipw3945?

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[arch-general] Custom kernel compile fails
by CtM 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Happy April everyone! I was just wondering if anyone else was having issues building a recent custom kernel. I find that it fails on the make command. Here is the output I get: LD .tmp_vmlinux1 kernel/built-in.o: In function `getnstimeofday': (.text+0x205d3): undefined reference to `__umoddi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `getnstimeofday': (.text+0x205f6): undefined reference to `__udivdi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `do_gettimeofday': (.text+0x20718): undefined reference to `__udivdi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `do_gettimeofday': (.text+0x20736): undefined reference to `__umoddi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `timekeeping_resume': timekeeping.c:(.text+0x209e6): undefined reference to `__umoddi3' timekeeping.c:(.text+0x20a06): undefined reference to `__udivdi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `update_wall_time': (.text+0x20d5a): undefined reference to `__umoddi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `update_wall_time': (.text+0x20d7a): undefined reference to `__udivdi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `update_wall_time': (.text+0x211f6): undefined reference to `__umoddi3' kernel/built-in.o: In function `update_wall_time': (.text+0x21216): undefined reference to `__udivdi3' make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 I have tried kernel 2.6.24 and 2.6.24.4 on two different machines with two different cpu's (one intel dual core and one AMD 64 bit). I've tried using my previous config (make oldconfig) and also tried without it. I even ran make clean && make mrproper on the new extracted kernel directory before attempting to build it. Usually upgrading a kernel is very routine for me, but this time it isn't working. All kernel sources were downloaded from kernel.org as usual for me. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, CtM

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[arch-general] Goom Byetteng
by Essien Ita Essien 01 Apr '08

01 Apr '08

Zear ArgLeenugs, Zit it vit gret dizplezur datz I havengt now writteng diz mailz een compuleet stopmentten ov useng ov ArgLeenugs az a diztro. I havengt now enjoymenttum my timeung useng ov diz distro atchung!! Peety my englishung notteng de bestest but notteng the baddest but cannotz I usengzt. Dankee! atchung!! farewarez ArgLeenugs Essiengenz

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] licenses: GPL permutations
by Loui 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:20:37 +0300 "Roman Kyrylych" <roman.kyrylych(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2008/3/30, Paul Mattal <paul(a)mattal.com>: > > What is the right way to list all the various contortions you can now > > have of GPL in the license array? There's: > > > > GPL - any version of GPL > > GPL2 - only version 2 > > GPL2+ - version 2 or later > > GPL3 - version 3 only > > GPL3+ - version 3 or later > > > > These are all substantively different (except the last two.. for now) so > > how do we express these? Should we actually create common licenses GPL2+ > > and GPL3+ which reference the other two, and make GPL reference them > > all? Do we need a GPL1 and GPL1+? > > This issue was discussed in past > (I'm lazy to search for exact thread(s), sorry). > The current scheme is: > GPL - GPLv2 "or, at your opinion, any later version" > GPL2 - GPL2 only (e.g. Linux kernel) > GPL3 - GPL3 "or, at your opinion, any later version" > I don't know of a single project with GPLv1 or GPLv3-only license. > I don't like all these "this version or later" boondongles. Why don't we just keep things KISS and let people explicitly state what licenses are permissable. GPL1, GPL2, GPL3. Put one, or more of those in your licenses array and it's crystal clear what you mean.

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[arch-general] problem with courier-imap-4.3.1-1-i686
by Jason R Begley 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

I can't get some mail clients to connect to courier-imap-4.3.1-1-i686 after reecnt upgrades... Was working file with courier-imap-4.2.1-2-i686, I have rolled back without problems. Only error I could find in the log was imapd-ssl: couriertls: accept: error:1408A0C1:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_CLIENT_HELLO:no shared cipher Maybe only compiled for ssl3 and my clients need <V3?? Thanks, Jason

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[arch-general] Installation: after first reboot ext3 superblock mount time in future
by Gerhard Brauer 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hello, i've noticed this meanwhile quiet often after many installations. Currently after a test with 2008.03-0.3, but also with older ISOs: After install and first reboot i got such fsck notice during rc: ,---- | /dev/sda3: Superblock last mount time is in the future. FIXED | /dev/sda3 has gone 49710 days without being checked, check forced. `---- Here¹ you could download a screenshot from such a situation where also a reboot is required after fsck. Cause this is the *first* reboot after installation users will get a bad impression about Arch. First i thought this comes from vmware, but i also get it in virtualbox and i've seen this also during real installations. I have a suspicion: During (c)fdisk and formatting the disks current locale and timezone is set to US values (don't know at the moment the initial settings presented in rc.conf). During configuration i set my locale and timezone always to de_DE.utf8 and Europe/Berlin. And when first reboot is made that from umounting / there is a time difference that could cause such and flag it on ext3 partition? Or with the order in rc scripts? Maybe also that the hwclock is changed during/after installation... Have others also seen such? ¹ http://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/screen.png -- Don't drink and root!

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[arch-general] Something screwy with colour terminal output at shutdown
by Neil Darlow 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hi, Since the last initscripts update (I think) my colour terminal output at shutdown is messed-up. Use of colour at startup is correct but at shutdown the following is shown: 1) The preceeding :: appear dim-yellow 2) Daemon names don't appear 3) Daemon shutdown noise (e.g. postgresql's server stopped output) appears dim-grey It's not a big problem, I could just set USECOLOR="no" but if anyone knows a quick fix to make it work again, I would prefer that. Regards, Neil Darlow

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[arch-general] html messages on this list.
by Arvid Ephraim Picciani 30 Mar '08

30 Mar '08

please stop sending broken html from dialup machines. I can't believe arch-general is the only list where people do that. Even the default sa from the arch packges filters those with up to 8 points. Seriously,... archers should be able to read RFCs and setup their MUA correctly. -- best regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen Arvid Ephraim Picciani

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[arch-general] Current FTP/HTTP install broken
by Gerhard Brauer 29 Mar '08

29 Mar '08

Hello, at the moment it seems that doing installation by ftp/http source is broken for the current ISOs 2007.08-2. We got several posts on archlinux.de and i see also on archlinux.org: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=345662 Also some new comments in old bugreport: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/8898 Problems seems some missing filelists in some packages (ex. glibc) and that there are 3 /mnt/.CHANGELOG files conflicting in glibc, initscripts and perl. These stops the installation of all/most base packages and so if user go further in install/configuration all config files are empty. Will these be fixed before the new ISO go official? Bye Gerhard -- DSSP - Deutschland sucht den Super Papst Casting mit Fliege

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