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[arch-general] systemd's journal and syslog-ng
by Tobias Frilling 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

On 02/09/2012 03:29 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: > - With the journal enabled (and it is enabled by default), you no longer > need to run a syslog daemon (i.e. syslog-ng or rsyslog). The journal, > by default, writes to /run/systemd/journal (meaning logs will poof on > reboot). If you want to keep your logs, simply create > /var/log/journal. If you really want to keep using a syslog daemon, > you must tell it to read from /run/systemd/journal/socket, NOT > /dev/log. I know I do not longer need to run a syslog daemon, but I like my logs in human readable form. So, being a obedient ml reader, I configured my syslog-ng to read from said new socket unix-dgram("/run/systemd/journal/socket"); instead of the old /dev/log. But since then my logs are incomplete at best. So here are my questions: - Why are the logs read from /run/systemd/journal/socket incomplete and how do I fix this? - Why do I even have to change the socket? /dev/log is still there and still works like a charm.

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] disowned pmount
by Thorsten Töpper 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:04:20 +0100 Tobias Powalowski <tobias.powalowski(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Am 15.02.2012 09:18, schrieb Pierre Schmitz: > > Am 15.02.2012 09:10, schrieb Tobias Powalowski: > >> Hi > >> feel free to adopt it, I don't use it anymore. > >> greetings > >> tpowa > > Why not just drop it entirely? Afaik it was once used by KDE3 but > > isn't needed by any package anymore. > > > +1 > Drop it to [community] I'll adopt it. -- Jabber: atsutane(a)freethoughts.de Blog: http://atsutane.freethoughts.de/ GPG-Key: 295AFBF4 FP: 39F8 80E5 0E49 A4D1 1341 E8F9 39E4 F17F 295A FBF4

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[arch-general] [arch-dev-public] kernel config changes in testing
by Keshav P R 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 18:09, Tobias Powalowski <tobias.powalowski(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi > new kernels in testing have: > - ipv6 builtin https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27994 > - removed the old framebuffer devices (as wished on mailinglist) > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/25341 ? and it may be early but 3.3 kernel has CONFIG_EFI_STUB ( http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commitdiff;h… ) which should also be enabled once it is released. Regards. Keshav

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[arch-general] Join my network on LinkedIn
by Erwin José López Pulgarín via LinkedIn 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

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[arch-general] Intel AES-NI module doesn't get loaded automatically
by Karol Babioch 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

Hi, my hardware supports the AES-NI instruction set, which is a performance boost. I'm pretty sure that the appropriate module (aesni_intel) was loaded automatically in the past, which seems not to be the case anymore. I probably could place it in /etc/rc.conf or something like that, but before going for it, I would like to know why it doesn't get loaded automatically in the first place any longer. Is this something intentional or some sort of bug/regression? Maybe it has something to do with the switch to kmod a few weeks ago? Anyone else experienced this? Best regards, Karol Babioch

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[arch-general] Cannot upgrade.
by Madhurya Kakati 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

Greetings, The command pacman -Su fails(I ran -Sy separately before this). I last updated the system day before yesterday. $ sudo pacman -Su :: The following packages should be upgraded first : pacman :: Do you want to cancel the current operation :: and upgrade these packages now? [Y/n] resolving dependencies... looking for inter-conflicts... :: gcc-libs and gcc-libs-multilib are in conflict. Remove gcc-libs-multilib? [y/N] N error: unresolvable package conflicts detected error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies) :: gcc-libs and gcc-libs-multilib are in conflict Do I have to remove gcc-libs-multilib? -- Madhurya Kakati () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments

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[arch-general] Fw: Re: Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY]
by gt 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

Well it would seem he still found it useful. But forgot to cc the mailing list. ----- Forwarded message from Rob Lewis <rrl125(a)gmail.com> ----- Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 22:20:20 -0500 From: Rob Lewis <rrl125(a)gmail.com> To: gt <codered12(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY] Thanks! That thread at least confirms that two others will the same laptop are having the same issue. As for what the problem is, not quite sure yet but I will try reverting to a older kernel. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:50 PM, gt <codered12(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 07:45:54PM -0500, Rob Lewis wrote: > > I am running into an issue I have never really run into in the past with > my > > current laptop. Upon installing arch linux I reboot and face the > following > > issue which hangs forever during the bot process: > > > > Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY] > > > > I have a Lenovo Thinkpad W520 with NVidia Optimus and I enabled NVidia > > Discrete mode in the BIOS. I cannot boot into my system after > installation, > > however sometimes it will skip by this error and I will lose all keyboard > > input and cannot login as a result. My workaround for the moment is to > put > > the BIOS into Optimus mode (Intel and NVidia cards are enabled) and use > the > > Intel video driver. I have tried nomodeset during the boot process but no > > luck. Googling the problem i find most people get a timeout after 30 > > seconds to find out what is causing the problem, but my system hangs > > forever. > > > > Is anyone else running into this issue or experienced enough to help me > > find out what the problem is? I have been running Arch since August 2011 > > with no issues up until now. > > > > Any help is appreciated, > > -Rob > > Maybe this thread can help. Many people seem to have problems with udev > recently. > > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=134012 > > -- > O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org > ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Ruby directory clean up proposal.
by Peter Lewis 15 Feb '12

15 Feb '12

Hi, I'm not a dev, so am replying on arch-general, but a TU who uses a lot of ruby on Arch. Thanks for thinking about this. I too have been trying to come up with my own sane way of using ruby - gems particularly - with Arch. On Sunday 12 Feb 2012 17:37:17 Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > Current layout: > /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby - packages either installed here > /usr/lib/ruby/gems/[ruby_base_version] - or here, this directory > contains both pacman installed packages and packages installed using > the gem tool. > > Planned layout: > /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby - manually installed files by user go here, > packages shouldn't touch this > /usr/lib/ruby/gems/[ruby_base_version] - pacman packages built from gems go > here /usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby - ruby packages installed with pacman which > aren't gems go here > $HOME/.gem/ruby/[ruby_base_version] - used by the gem command to > install packages unmanaged by pacman +1 from me, except that we should probably emphasise that /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby really is for site-specific stuff. Anything that is generic enough to be able to go in a pacman package (and/or a gem) should do. > /etc/gemrc - contains "gem: --user-install" to install user installed > gems with gem to $HOME/.gem/gems I didn't know about --user-install, but I just set GEM_HOME (actually, I use RVM). Can what you want be done by globally setting GEM_HOME to be based off of $HOME? Or is --user-install the preferred way? > If the user chooses to install gems using gem, they will have to add > the bin directory to the $PATH: > export PATH="$PATH:$(ruby -rubygems -e 'puts Gem.user_dir')/bin". Yep, or just something derived from $GEM_HOME if we were to use that approach instead. > Benefits of this change include: > Using the proper directory layout introduced in ruby 1.9 (using > vendor_ruby). Clean separation of pacman installed packages > (/usr/lib/ruby/gems/[ruby_base_version] & /usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby) > from gem installed packages ($HOME/.gem/ruby/[ruby_base_version]). > > Problems left: > The user will still be able to install to the system wide gem > directory /usr/lib/ruby/gems/[ruby_base_version] if they remove > --user-install from /etc/gemrc > > Possible remedies: > 1) Leave it as is. > If the user runs gem with --no-user-install then gem will still > install the files to the system wide directory at > /usr/lib/ruby/gems/[ruby_base_version] and will install binaries to > /usr/bin > This should provide a clean default and is the easiest path. > This option is still better than the one we currently use where we > try to install to the system wide location by default. I think it's worth separating out the "user" and the "admin" in this argument. To install a gem system-wide, you have to do something like "sudo gem install XXX", right? This is almost always a bad idea, IMO, and people hopefully won't do it at least during the normal run of working with ruby. Personally, I don't let gem mess with anything outside my home directory. And plain "gem install XXX" will not accidentally install system-wide, right? Ruby is quite good for separating between development and deployment environments - it seems to make sense for us to do a similar thing here, seeing the Arch OS layer itself as a particular kind of deployment, where things are managed by pacman. > 2) Change all ruby pacman packages to use local > _gemdir='/usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby' > This would free up /usr/lib/ruby/gems/[ruby_base_version] which we > could move to /var/lib/ruby/gems/[ruby_base_version] for system wide > gems installed with the gem command. And as much as I have to admit that I'd really like to be able to install gems system-wide and use their built-in dependency management, bundler etc... I think that road probably leads to madness and death, especially when many popular gems will still be managed by pacman (and rightly so). So, I would be careful about doing this, and would suggest that we go for only letting 'gem' install things under $HOME. Anything that should go system-wide should have a PKGBUILD. > I'm currently leaning towards 1 since it will be a simple solution > with no changes needed to existing ruby-* packages. Yep. Of course, suggesting RVM for user-installed gems(ets) is probably also a good idea. Pete. PS. A while ago I was getting very frustrated that the version of rubygems bundled with ruby itself was so out-of-date so quickly, but 'gem update --system' is a very bad idea in combination with pacman. So, I spent a while hacking together this package, which installs the latest version of rubygems itself alongside ruby, system-wide: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=50346 It's hacky, but it works :-) I wish there was a cleaner way.

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[arch-general] Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY]
by Rob Lewis 15 Feb '12

15 Feb '12

I am running into an issue I have never really run into in the past with my current laptop. Upon installing arch linux I reboot and face the following issue which hangs forever during the bot process: Waiting for UDev uevents to be processed [BUSY] I have a Lenovo Thinkpad W520 with NVidia Optimus and I enabled NVidia Discrete mode in the BIOS. I cannot boot into my system after installation, however sometimes it will skip by this error and I will lose all keyboard input and cannot login as a result. My workaround for the moment is to put the BIOS into Optimus mode (Intel and NVidia cards are enabled) and use the Intel video driver. I have tried nomodeset during the boot process but no luck. Googling the problem i find most people get a timeout after 30 seconds to find out what is causing the problem, but my system hangs forever. Is anyone else running into this issue or experienced enough to help me find out what the problem is? I have been running Arch since August 2011 with no issues up until now. Any help is appreciated, -Rob

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[arch-general] Kmail crashes
by P Nikolic 14 Feb '12

14 Feb '12

Hi all . Kmail seems to have developed a like for just vanishing like bang gone . I had to reboot the box this morning to get kmail to start at all as in power off reboot then it can up with no mails listed no inbox nothing another reboot and it came up ok but now just vanishes from the screen this was after yesterdays updates "pacman -Suy" it had been reasonably ok prior to that apart from the filters dont work very well (no where near as good as the non akondaified version Pete . -- Linux 7-of-9 3.2.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Feb 7 08:34:36 CET 2012 x86_64 AMD Phenom(tm) 9600B Quad-Core Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux

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