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[arch-general] did my 4/10/10:pacman -Syu: destabilized e17's run command dialog??
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

Actually, I'm not sure if this is thanks to E17 itself or specific to Arch... And it's no big deal anyway because: A) e17 is "under heavy development", (And I know that means it's unstable) B) I've already got a workaround that works for me... But I'd like to understand what happened a little better. First you should know that I'm a multi-Linux/multi-boot kind of guy, and that in every distro I install I depend on their package management system to keep me out of dependency hel^Hck... ;-7 Of all my currently installed distros, Arch is the one that seems most likely to install an unadulterated upstream package, rather than a distro specific {modified} version. And e17 is definitely a "package" that I wouldn't even attempt to install by hand. Thus the fact that the only e17 on my laptop that this has happened to is the one in Arch, doesn't make it distro specific. It probably only means the Arch e17 is more fully updated... At least that's mt best guess. Anyway I'm not sure what the e17 version number that I installed to Arch sometime since my mid March initial installation of Arch itself was, but as of now the e17 help about lists it as "Enlightenment 0.16.999.063". Prior to this recent pacman -Syu, e17's run prompt worked normally. Afterwards it's become fussy what the first character I input into it is. That is I usually start opera via the run prompt and when I type "o" the command history displays the last instance of the command And I can in fact start opera. I also use firefox, though I usually start that from inside alpine. Today I tried to start firefox from the run prompt. But as soon as I type an "f" into the first character position of the command input field, I get a pop-up error telling me that "Enlightenment SEGV'd" That also advises me to compile everything with "-g in CFLAGS" So far, the the restore button succeeds in restarting e17 without closing any open applications... But of course I didn't get firefox. I can start firefox from an xterm. And I tested that I can type "of" into the run prompt without an immediate SEGV But I can't type an f as the first character. I haven't tested the whole alphabet, But I also can't type a command starting with "b" or "/" as the first character. Though just because I'm stubborn I can tell you that I can start firefox [via e17's run prompt] with: "~/../../usr/bin/firefox" (go figure) I did say I've got a work around that works for me... I've also got XFCE installed as a back-up desktop, so I've reassigned the keybinding I used to pull up e17's run prompt with, to "/usr/bin/xfrun4". Which is works just fine. How can I a regular "Joe user", figure out if this is an actual E17 bug or if it's an Arch specific thing??? -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>>

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[arch-general] NDN Messages
by Mauro Santos 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

Is it just me or is everyone getting something like this when posting to [arch-general]: "Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: Joey Kingery (Mailbox has been deleted. Try re-entering the address.)" It is not the first time I have received this and it does not seem to be a temporary problem, is there any way to avoid getting this message or solving the problem? -- Mauro Santos

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[arch-general] ImportError: libssl.so.0.9.8: -- do I just rebuild the AUR packages?
by David C. Rankin 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

Guys, After the latest openssl updates, the AUR packages for createrepo and repoview are failing. I know it must be the result of the openssl changes. My question is, "in situations like this do I just try rebuilding the AUR packages, or does the maintainer have to make updates to accommodate the changes?" The errors received are: Checking for presence of sqlite metadata in /home/backup/rpms/factory_11.0 sqlite metadata tables found --> updating Update of metadata (sqlite) --> Failed Signing the repository after update... OK Updating/Creating repoview index and HTML pages... Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/createrepo/genpkgmetadata.py", line 26, in <module> import rpm File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rpm/__init__.py", line 7, in <module> from _rpm import * ImportError: libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory gpg: no default secret key: bad passphrase gpg: signing failed: bad passphrase Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/repoview", line 46, in <module> from rpmUtils.miscutils import compareEVR File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/rpmUtils/miscutils.py", line 18, in <module> of which: "ImportError: libssl.so.0.9.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" seems to be the primary error. I am not familiar enough with openssl to know if this can be cured by a simple rebuild, a symlink, or whether the openssl changes were significant enough to require a reworking of the AUR package by the maintainer. What say the gurus? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] ed-1.4-2
by Ray Kohler 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Add "sh" dep to ensure availability for install script, compress info pages. > > Signoff both, > Allan How about handling http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/18718 (remove ed and bin86 from base-devel)?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] xorg-server 1.8 repository
by Ray Kohler 18 Apr '10

18 Apr '10

On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Jan de Groot <jan(a)jgc.homeip.net> wrote: > Things todo before this merges to extra: > - Fix xf86-video-siliconmotion, xf86-video-unichrome, xf86-video-nouveau I'm curious as to what this means. In particular, what's broken with nouveau? Does it not compile, or not work properly? And is this with the source snapshot in [extra], or some newer version?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] gcc-4.5 toolchain rebuild
by Emmanuel Benisty 17 Apr '10

17 Apr '10

Hi, On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > The gcc-4.5 toolchain rebuild is in [testing]. Here is a summary of the > changes I made: > > gcc-4.5.0-1: > upstream update > add new deps (libmpc, libelf) > enable link time optimization > tidy up configure > add c89 and c99 launcher scripts (POSIX compatibility) Just out of curiosity, what is the plan regarding this issue (quoted from the gcc changelog): On x86 targets, code containing floating-point calculations may run significantly slower when compiled with GCC 4.5 in strict C99 conformance mode than they did with earlier GCC versions. This is due to stricter standard conformance of the compiler and can be avoided by using the option -fexcess-precision=fast; Thanks.

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[arch-general] package search shows duplicate ca-certificates package in [testing]
by Ray Kohler 17 Apr '10

17 Apr '10

Ever since the openssl rebuilds moved out of testing, the package search webapp shows an extra copy of ca-certificates in [testing] at the same version of the one in [core] now. This package doesn't really exist in the [testing] DB and there isn't an SVN entry for it in testing-any either. What's going on here? Is it a bug in the package search that I should file in flyspray?

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[arch-general] How to get permanent network devices?
by Dominik Schips 16 Apr '10

16 Apr '10

Hello, I have three network devices (eth0, eth1 and eth2) in my system. Currently I use the networkmanager (Gnome) to configure my LAN connection. It is working good. My problem is that every reboot the device names are changing so somtimes my LAN device is eth0 next reboot it is eth2 ..... I think this is done by udev. Can someone explain me how to get permanent device names every boot? I want to have eth0 as my normal LAN device, eth1 as a bridge device for KVM VMs and eth2 as bridge device connected to my DMZ for VMs. With virt-manager I can setup these bridges but if the device name changes every boot it is unpossible to use. Any ideas or advices for me? -- Best regards Dominik Schips

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[arch-general] manage starting and stopping processes with less typing
by David C. Rankin 15 Apr '10

15 Apr '10

Guys, One thing I miss with Arch are init-script shortcuts for starting and stopping processes. rc-commands really help cut down on typing. For example, all suse did was to create links to the files in /etc/rc.d/... with a naming convention of rc<init script name>. So, for example, instead of having to type: /etc/rc.d/postfix the shortcut was simply rcpostfix I have normally seen the sym-link shortcuts placed in /usr/sbin, but /usr/local/sbin works fine as well. The convenience is addictive. If you manage your box from the command line or want to, then you can give this setup a testdrive. You can create the sym-links very easily with the following cut and pasted to the command line (as root - all on one line): for i in $(ls /etc/rc.d); do [[ -e /etc/rc.d/$i ]] && [[ ! -h /usr/local/sbin/$i ]] && ln -sv /etc/rc.d/$i /usr/local/sbin/rc${i}; done You need to make sure /usr/local/sbin is in root's path to use the rc-commands without having to type the full path each time (that would defeat any convenience). You can quickly check to see if /usr/local/sbin is in root's path by logging in, or su'ing, to the root account and pasting the next line into the command line: set | grep \/usr\/local\/sbin If you get an answer, your fine, if you get nothing, then, as root, add /usr/local/sbin to the path with: PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin EXPORT PATH you can make the path permanent by adding to, or creating /root/.bashrc with the following: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/sbin I know most of you know all this, but this was written with additional detail to help those who may not make much use of the command line now, but may be interested in learning more about the control it offers. Remember, you can do some things some of the time from within various guis, but you can do ALL things ALL OF THE TIME, from the command line. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] First Time Using AUR
by Carlos Mennens 14 Apr '10

14 Apr '10

I am getting ready to use my newly built Arch Linux system for the 1st time and use AUR and read the Wiki but I have a question that I am not clear on: Next choose an appropriate build directory. A build directory is simply a directory where the package will be made or "built" and can be any directory. Examples of commonly used directories are: ~/builds Now when I create the "~/builds" directory, does it matter if I do this in a regular user's home directory or in 'roots'? It is not very clear and I don't want to break anything or improperly build a package from AUR.

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