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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [PATCH] makechrootpkg: Use the host's SRCDEST and PKGDEST if they are defined
by Rogutės Sparnuotos 06 Nov '09

06 Nov '09

Daenyth Blank (2009-11-05 13:07): > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 13:03, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I was thinking more along the lines of: > > > > Original: eval $(grep '^SRCDEST=' /etc/makepkg.conf) > > > > SRCDEST=$(grep '^SRCDEST=' /etc/makepkg.conf | cut -d= -f2) > > PKGDEST=$(grep '^PKGDEST=' /etc/makepkg.conf | cut -d= -f2) > > > > I believe that should work... Make sure to throw in a -d -w check > after, to make sure it's right... I think a malicious line (".. && rm > -rf /") would simply get stored as a string.. as long as we quote > everything properly and unset it if it's not right, I'm pretty sure > it's not dangerous. It could however, fail in cases where it's split > over multiple lines. I don't think that's a reason not to do it > though, I can't imagine a reason for such a thing. This wouldn't work for SRCDEST="/path/to/dir" SRCDEST='/path/to/dir' But sed should be able to do it: SRCDEST=$(sed -nr "/^SRCDEST=/{s/[^=]+=(['\"]?)(.+)\1/\2/p}" /etc/makepkg.conf) -- -- Rogutės Sparnuotos

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[arch-general] S3-level ACPI suspend
by b4283 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

Hi, I've had some nice experiences with Windows(XP)'s suspend functionality, and it seems to work on all machines I've worked with. and the other day I just had a successful resume on my machine with "s2ram -f -m -p", but it takes like a minute for it to fully recover to a terminal (tty/1). (ps: my computer is a desktop with AMD RS780 chipset, which isn't supported by KMS yet) Unlike Windows ones, which only take like 3-5 seconds to wake up, linux takes much longer, I don't know if this is common... My question is: What's the average resume time of yours, and is it possible to be any faster ?

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[arch-general] Fresh install of 2009.08 -> hal, dbus, PK - no mount of usb for normal user (again...)
by David C. Rankin 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

Guys, I did a fresh install of 2009.08 on a new drive for my laptop. For the past 8 months, I have never gotten the freedesktop.org -- removable policy to work. (well, maybe for a week or so before the kernel change in July). I wanted to make sure I got it right this time so I haven't monkeyed with the policies yet. In kde4, all of my removable devices are properly recognized (usb sticks, 2.5" laptop drives connected via usb, etc.). Despite being recognized properly, (1) the user cannot access the drives - until root has accessed them (like opening konqueror su) (2) none of the drives are mounted for the user under /media - until root has accessed them What makes no sense to me is that after root has accessed the drives, the user can use them (I guess the actual "mount" occurs when root access the drives, even though kde4 shows them as connected for the user through the notifier popup in the task bar) I finally just wrote a script to mount removables under /mnt that can be called by the users (basically uses sudo to mount and case on partition name and size to mount the drives on the proper mount points) Something has got to give. I've wiki'ed myself into a coma and still -- no joy. If one of the arch mount-removable gurus would just slip me the secret, I would be much abliged :-) It has to be simple, but simplicity has escaped me for quite some time now. However, I am determined to get it right with the new install. I know the wiki well, but where is the other document that I can use along with the wiki to make sure I have a good working system? Thanks for any help you can give. Sincerely yours, "stumped by hal, dbus and PK. Rankin" -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] APM gets re-enabled after awake from suspend
by Karol Babioch 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

Hi, my hard drive suffers from the "clicking" problem, therefore I deactivated the APM (Advanced Power Management) totally. I'm doing this using hdparm in the /etc/rc.local, making sure that it gets executed every time I boot up my machine. However I noticed that the APM gets re-enabled after I wake my machine up from Suspend-to-RAM, which makes the hard drive clicking again. I'm now wondering whether this is "normal"? I guess so, as the hard drive gets disabled during the suspend, and after a wake-up it gets re-enabled, so any changed made with hdparm don't get stored. Is this intention right? Secondly I want to know what would be the right file (place) to fix this. I'll have to execute the hdparm command again, but don't quite know where to put it, or at least where it should be put ;). -- Best regards, Karol Babioch <karol(a)babioch.de>

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[arch-general] preferred laptops.
by Eric Jacobs 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

Hello fello archers.. I've recently been going through a bit of a rough patch with my laptop usage.. I had a 15" macbook pro (dual booted with arch linux), which I recently sold because I thought it was ugly, the mouse didn't work very well, and frankly I was trying to de-appletize myself :).. I just received my refurbished dell studio 14z and got arch up and running on it, but I can't decide if I like it or not.. I haven't gotten used to the mouse yet. The resolution is less than desirable. (13 something x 7 something). And there isn't a latch on the lid.. but I do like the size, aesthetics, weight, and the keyboard feels nice.. So I'm asking you, if you have a laptop, what kind is it? Does arch run pretty well on it (synaptics, sleep/wake, etc.)? What window manager do you think works best with the touchpad (I'm using gnome now)? Any input would be appreciated. ------------------------------ -Eric Jacobs

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[arch-general] file system capabilities
by Shridhar Daithankar 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

Hi, I was reading thr. /. commentary on the latest linux kernel bug, got drifted into file system capabilities. and got this, (from http://lwn.net/Articles/313838/) [root@presario shridhar]# ls -la /bin/ping -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 33360 2008-10-04 17:48 /bin/ping [root@presario shridhar]# chmod u-s /bin/ping [root@presario shridhar]# setcap cap_net_raw=ep /bin/ping [root@presario shridhar]# ls -al /bin/ping -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 33360 2008-10-04 17:48 /bin/ping [root@presario shridhar]# exit shridhar@presario ~$ ping 192.168.1.5 PING 192.168.1.5 (192.168.1.5) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.1.5: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.219 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.1.5: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.354 ms ^C --- 192.168.1.5 ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 999ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.219/0.286/0.354/0.069 ms so can this be done by default? thus reducing setuid usage? it should improve security right? -- Shridhar

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[arch-general] Swfdec Gnash
by Lars Tennstedt 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

Hi there, the current problem with the new Xorg and the NVIDIA legacy driver and the progress of the nouveau driver let me think about removing the another last proprietary package on my systems. Please tell me of your experience with Swfdec and Gnash for example with YouTube and other flash content. Thanks for your time! Bye Lars

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Load_Cycle_Count and storage-fixup
by Damjan Georgievski 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

>> Anyone else has some opinion about how to handle this? > > I'd like to affirm the opinions of Roman and Xavier and take some action on > this. > > Anyone object to my putting storage-fixup in [extra] at least? If no > objections by W 9/21, I plan to go ahead with that step. If it works out, we > can talk about follow-up steps like: > > 1) moving it to [core] > 2) integrating it into default rc.d scripts > > It's a pretty serious issue for laptop users with affected drives. And the > drives are pretty popular ones, methinks. Also note that, when raising awerness about this issue, the fixup ussually needs to be run on resume from disk (and I think resume from ram) too. Not only on boot. -- damjan

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[arch-general] Radeon (xf86-video-ati) verdict
by David C. Rankin 05 Nov '09

05 Nov '09

After working with the ati driver instead of the radeonhd driver, I must say I am very impressed with the KMS implementation. It works much, much better than in the past (performance is still way short of fglrx, and it is still much HOTTER than fglrx , but screen artifacts are virtually eliminated, desktop effects are good, and compiz works very well with the driver. Helluva job Arch team! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] Preferred Laptops
by Sherry Howell 04 Nov '09

04 Nov '09

> Hello fello archers.. > > I've recently been going through a bit of a rough patch with my laptop > usage.. I had a 15" macbook pro (dual booted with arch linux), which I > recently sold because I thought it was ugly, the mouse didn't work very > well, and frankly I was trying to de-appletize myself :).. > > I just received my refurbished dell studio 14z and got arch up and running > on it, but I can't decide if I like it or not.. I haven't gotten used to > the mouse yet. The resolution is less than desirable. (13 something x 7 > something). And there isn't a latch on the lid.. but I do like the size, > aesthetics, weight, and the keyboard feels nice.. > > So I'm asking you, if you have a laptop, what kind is it? Does arch run > pretty well on it (synaptics, sleep/wake, etc.)? What window manager do you > think works best with the touchpad (I'm using gnome now)? > > Any input would be appreciated. > > ------------------------------ > -Eric Jacobs I've dumped OSX and am happily running arch on my macbook 4.1. I'm not suggesting you go spend the money on one, but if you did, you'd be very happy with it. Once I figured out how to get past the EFI boot system, the only thing I've had issues with at all is getting lirc to work correctly, and I can't for the life of me figure out why. Tried everything! But, wireless works excellent - broadcom and all. The synaptics simply needed a little tweaking using the instructions gleaned from the ubuntu forum. Sleep and wake worked out of the box. Every window manager I've tried worked great with the touchpad. I used kde 4 for a while, but have settled finally on xfce because it reminds me more of my first linux machine (fvwm on an old pb 486). Plus it's a lot of fun hearing "Oh, how cool, you've got a macbook -- what the heck is that?!?" --Sherry Howell

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