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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] GNOME 2.28 - changes ahead
by Jeff Horelick 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Jan de Groot <jan(a)jgc.homeip.net> wrote: > There's a release of GNOME 2.27.90 scheduled for this week, which means > that GNOME will enter a code freeze. This is the point where I usually > pick up packaging the next major version. > > For GNOME 2.27/28, some things will change in the distribution: > - DeviceKit-Disks (new package) > - PolicyKit 1.0 replacing 0.9 > - PulseAudio (new package) > - Esound > > Then there's PulseAudio. Though I still don't feel the need for this one > on the systems I own, a lot of users have requested this. PA has matured > a lot in the meanwhile, and PA is more than just an ordinary ESD > replacement. > > Another issue is ESD. This package is not really maintained upstream > anymore, and I don't think it makes sense to have two sound servers as > dependency for one desktop. Given the fact that Fedora disables esound > support since 2.23.4, I think it won't be a problem to remove it from > the dependency chain. Esound will stay in the repositories, but won't be > used by GNOME as sound server anymore. > > > I'm personally unhappy that PulseAudio will be my only sound system choice if i use GNOME. Yes, i realize that PulseAudio has improved massively in the past year or so, but it still breaks quite a few apps and in my experience, skips/stutters more than you want unless you're using a realtime kernel. I really hope PulseAudio will be a optdepend or a actual part of the gnome or gnome-extra groups so that if someone decides they don't want it, they don't have to use it.

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Re: [arch-general] Add "phonon-xine" to KDE deps?
by Sherry Howell 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

> > Did you all install the needed gstreamer plugins for the files you > > wanted to play? > > Qt only installs the base plugins which support playing ogg and wave files. > For anything else you need to install other plugins. Mine is even a bigger mess than that. I've decided it's actually Amarok in this instance though. Gstreamer didn't work in Amarok, but even with Xine backends installed I get no sound out of Amarok at all with the latest Amarok release. It's not a backend or plugin issue because I get sound from Dragon Player. I'm able to play oggs/mp3s in everything EXCEPT Amarok. Go figure... I can't. Sherry

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[arch-general] Add "phonon-xine" to KDE deps?
by Sven-Hendrik Haase 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

Hey, I've found that I hardly get any sound at all in KDE without the phonon-xine package installed since KDE 4.3. I wondered if this is a general thing or if it occurred to me just because my installation is rather old. If it is generally needed, why not make it a dependency? Or should I not require it at all and it is a misconfiguration on my side? Insight appreciated :) -- Sven-Hendrik

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[arch-general] C-> and C<- does not work in urxvt in tabbed mode - archlinux specific
by Partha Chowdhury 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

i use rxvt-unicode as x terminal emulator. In tabbed mode i cannot use ctrl +left or right arrow keys to browse through words in history. i.e commands which take a long argument previously i was using fedora 10. i had asked this question in rxvt-unicode mailing list http://lists.schmorp.de/pipermail/rxvt-unicode/2009q2/001019.html and the solution described there worked in fedora 10. I also tested this on ubuntu 9.10 and it worked. In both cases the rxvt-unicode package was the same -9.06 but the above hack does not work in archlinux. Instead i find that i have to use alt key instead of ctrl key to achieve the purpose. It becomes annoying as the ctrl+arrow keys are used for the same purpose on console and any other terminal emulator as i use terminator often and i have to adjust based on circumstances. i took a look at PKGBUILD of rxvt-unicode and there is nothing that could point to this anomaly. so my question is this behaviour a bug or feature in archlinux ?

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[arch-general] system-tools-backends
by Muhammad Qadri 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

I was told that there was some talk some time ago about problems with system-tools-backends on one of the lists, but I wasn't able to find it. I'm looking to try and get those working fully/properly (cause the perl backend's pretty easy to understand...don't ask). I was wondering if people who use gnome-system-tools (or anything else that uses system-tools-backends / liboobs) could let me know what problems they've been facing with it. Note that there's been a recent update to it, so the whole "Nothing shows up" problem should no longer be there. Thanks, MAQ.

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[arch-general] X logging me out.
by Jason Ish 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

Hi all. After a recent system update (5 days ago) I find that I'm getting automatically logged out of X anywhere between 5-10 minutes into a session after a boot. I can relogin and then remain logged in. Any ideas whats up? I don't have any special X configuration - none that I'm aware of.. No xorg.conf, etc. System is a Lenovo X61 with Intel graphics. Thanks.

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[arch-general] kscreensaver + electricsheep
by Edgar Kalkowski 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

Hi, I have used electricsheep with kscreensaver for some time now but recently (after upgrade to 4.3) I changed to a different one for a change and wanted to go back to electricsheep today. But I see that it is missing in systemsettings. I checked and the file /usr/share/kde4/services/ScreenSavers/electricsheep.desktop is in place as installed from the electricsheep package. Has something changed in kscreensaver in 4.3 and thus perhaps the .desktop file is outdated? Or am I missing something else? Edgar

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[arch-general] Arch minimum kernel version (was: [signoff] udev-145-1)
by Dan McGee 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

2009/8/3 Angel Velásquez <angvp(a)archlinux.com.ve>: >> >> I'll shoot an email to Slicehost on my behalf to see what kernels they >> have available. What other VPS providers offer Arch? It isn't a tough >> thing to find out how much we can get away with here. >> >> -Dan >> > > I think SevenL networks (who provide services to us) offers Arch... > > Doing a search on google "archlinux hosting" [1] I found some > companies that I didn't notice of their existence in fact. Got a response from Slice: The following kernels are available for your slice to upgrade. Please let us know and we can take care of that for you. 2.6.24 - 23.48 2.6.24 - 24.55 I believe these should be Ubuntu kernel versions; I'm seeing right now what they actually include as it might include a fully working signalfd(). If anyone wants to contact some other providers (especially if you are already using their services) and post the response here, that would be cool. -Dan

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[arch-general] adding stb-admin GID to wiki
by Biru Ionut 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

hi, can anyone with permission add stb-admin group with gid 112 on this? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:UID_/_GID_Database -- Ionut

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[arch-general] kde4 Help system error - Arch or KDE error?
by David C. Rankin 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

Listmates, I got a strange error when selecting help inside konqueror settings. the error was: "The file or folder help:/ does not exist." (screenshot 63k) http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/kde4/kde-help-index.jpeg Is this an Arch or kde issue? (my guess is kde, but I thought I would ask) Also, can anyone confirm this? Go to konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Management -> General and then click on the "Help" button and let me know if you get the error. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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