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[arch-general] Painful installation of 4.3 - some general advice needed.
by richard terry 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

Massive headache, well, actually it wasn't an upgrade it was a brand new HDD (kept the old one). all this started when I was stupid enough to install scribus > libreadline version problems and couldn't back track, Some other file was somehow affected and needed to run a terminal because then my arch isntall wouldn't boot at all, so I opted to buy another disk for my laptop and do a new install as I felt that at somepoint I'd have to upgrade anway. I'd appreciate a bit of advice. 1) the libjepg.7 vs 62 problem - I've exhaustively tried every solution over the last few hours on the forums and cannot get kmail to work - loads but 'poof; up in smoke once the gui appears 2) Dolphin - I really liked konqueror - can one still install this as a file browser. I note there is a kdebase-konqueror package, using this > multiple 'file exists in the filesystem' messages I could use a force but god knows what this will trash. Any alternatives. 3) Is there anyway to have two tool bars down the bottom like one could in KDE3 4) is it is any way possible to import kmail boxes (in one go) into thunderbird - mind you I like kmail better! 5) Kwrite ? same applies kdebase-kwrite but is it possible to install under kde4.3? Overall this has been a very very painful experience. I found the archlinux iso would in no way allow me to partition and format my disk - I created these with an external program > once they were recognised, at other times not, but at the end of the day installation was impossible. Chakra was kinder to me - recognised the existing partitions, and installed everything (alpha3), mind you no keyboard, so it died at the add user, so I used the arch install disk to boot that system, and manually added users and grub-install. Then every second program seems to whinge about the libjepg thing. Not a happy chappy, having used ARCH since version 0.4 and it has always been such a pleasure to use and maintain. Any help/comments/advice would be muchly appreciated. Richard

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[arch-general] What happens with extra?
by Sergej Pupykin 16 Aug '09

16 Aug '09

ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/extra/os/i686/ has ~140 packages

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[arch-general] '*' in PKGBUILD for the conflicts array
by Attila 14 Aug '09

14 Aug '09

Hello, since there starts a new splitting game with the kde/kdemod packages i have a question for own packages. Would it be possible to use this conflicts=("kdebase-*") if i want to use a variation of the kdebase package which includes all. I know that than i have to fill up the provides array with the full names if this is necessary. Comment: Thanks for the pacman support of splitting PKGBUILDs. See you, Attila

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[arch-general] IPv6 firewall, same as IPv4?
by clemens fischer 14 Aug '09

14 Aug '09

Can I put IPv6 rules into the regular etc/iptables/iptables.rules file containing only IPv4 rules otherwise? I noticed that both /usr/sbin/iptables and /usr/sbin/ip6tables depend on the same .so libs, so me thinks these libs need to have IPv6 support and all is well. Also, to make IPv6 work I put a rule to pass IPv6 protocol traffic outbound on eth+. Inbound packets are propably handled by the customary "-A INPUT -i eth+ -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT", as they get into the machine somehow. I didn't check packet counters, though. clemens

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Re: [arch-general] '*' in PKGBUILD for the conflicts array
by vlad 13 Aug '09

13 Aug '09

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:06:32PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Aaron Griffin wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Attila<attila(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On Mittwoch, 12. August 2009 09:52 Allan McRae wrote: >>> >>> >>>> No, that will not work. >>>> >>> Perhaps in the future? If not, no problem and i don't want to force you to say >>> me a release date.-) >>> >>> See you, Attila >>> >> >> You'd have to talk to the pacman guys. I suggest you file a feature >> request or email the pacman-dev list >> > > I just replied in the bug report but for those that are interested.... > something like: > > conflicts=("kdebase-*") > > may be achieved using > > conflicts=$(pacman -Ssq kdebase-) or simply cut and paste the output of "pacman -Ssq ..." into conflicts=(). > > > I would not recommend the general use of that.... > > Allan > > --

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[arch-general] ABI compliance checker
by Andrey Ponomarenko 13 Aug '09

13 Aug '09

Colleagues, I'm software engineer from Institute for System Programing of Russian Academy of Sciences and we are developing a free lightweight tool for checking backward/forward binary compatibility of shared C/C++ libraries in OS Linux. It checks interface signatures and data type definitions in two library versions (headers and shared objects) and searches ABI changes that may lead to incompatibility. We have released 1.1 version of this tool and we'd like you to consider its usefulness for your project. The wiki-page with the latest release of binary compatibility checker is http://ispras.linux-foundation.org/index.php/ABI_compliance_checker Andrey Ponomarenko

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Re: [arch-general] '*' in PKGBUILD for the conflicts array
by Nezmer＠allurelinux.org 13 Aug '09

13 Aug '09

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:06:32PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Aaron Griffin wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Attila<attila(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On Mittwoch, 12. August 2009 09:52 Allan McRae wrote: >>> >>> >>>> No, that will not work. >>>> >>> Perhaps in the future? If not, no problem and i don't want to force you to say >>> me a release date.-) >>> >>> See you, Attila >>> >> >> You'd have to talk to the pacman guys. I suggest you file a feature >> request or email the pacman-dev list >> > > I just replied in the bug report but for those that are interested.... > something like: > > conflicts=("kdebase-*") > > may be achieved using > > conflicts=$(pacman -Ssq kdebase-) > > > I would not recommend the general use of that.... > > Allan That would break setups for people like me who enable "ShowSize" in pacman.conf , wouldn't It ?

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[arch-general] Does makepkg not honor 'provides' of other packages?
by Sven-Hendrik Haase 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

Hey, I'm trying to build "luabind" against an alternate "lua" package for c++. Its name is "lua-c++" and it provides "lua". It is installed correctly, yet "luabind" won't build with makepkg because of a missing dependency for "lua" which should have been provided by "lua-c++". What happened here? -- Sven-Hendrik

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] GNOME 2.28 - changes ahead
by Jeff Horelick 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Jan de Groot <jan(a)jgc.homeip.net> wrote: > There's a release of GNOME 2.27.90 scheduled for this week, which means > that GNOME will enter a code freeze. This is the point where I usually > pick up packaging the next major version. > > For GNOME 2.27/28, some things will change in the distribution: > - DeviceKit-Disks (new package) > - PolicyKit 1.0 replacing 0.9 > - PulseAudio (new package) > - Esound > > Then there's PulseAudio. Though I still don't feel the need for this one > on the systems I own, a lot of users have requested this. PA has matured > a lot in the meanwhile, and PA is more than just an ordinary ESD > replacement. > > Another issue is ESD. This package is not really maintained upstream > anymore, and I don't think it makes sense to have two sound servers as > dependency for one desktop. Given the fact that Fedora disables esound > support since 2.23.4, I think it won't be a problem to remove it from > the dependency chain. Esound will stay in the repositories, but won't be > used by GNOME as sound server anymore. > > > I'm personally unhappy that PulseAudio will be my only sound system choice if i use GNOME. Yes, i realize that PulseAudio has improved massively in the past year or so, but it still breaks quite a few apps and in my experience, skips/stutters more than you want unless you're using a realtime kernel. I really hope PulseAudio will be a optdepend or a actual part of the gnome or gnome-extra groups so that if someone decides they don't want it, they don't have to use it.

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Re: [arch-general] Add "phonon-xine" to KDE deps?
by Sherry Howell 11 Aug '09

11 Aug '09

> > Did you all install the needed gstreamer plugins for the files you > > wanted to play? > > Qt only installs the base plugins which support playing ogg and wave files. > For anything else you need to install other plugins. Mine is even a bigger mess than that. I've decided it's actually Amarok in this instance though. Gstreamer didn't work in Amarok, but even with Xine backends installed I get no sound out of Amarok at all with the latest Amarok release. It's not a backend or plugin issue because I get sound from Dragon Player. I'm able to play oggs/mp3s in everything EXCEPT Amarok. Go figure... I can't. Sherry

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