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[arch-general] Package groups
by Grigorios Bouzakis 13 Jun '09

13 Jun '09

Is it OK for a package in [community] to be part of a package group? AFAIK package groups dont exist in [community] or if they do they are not the same as the ones in extra. eg. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15053 http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/community/gnome/empathy/PKGBUILD?view… empathy gets to be part of gnome-extra -- Greg

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[arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.30-2
by Tobias Powalowski 13 Jun '09

13 Jun '09

Hi guys, kernel26-2.6.30-2 please signoff, both arches. And tell me your opinion about madwifi and openswan-klisp Upstream changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Arch Linux bugfixes: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/15067 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/14879 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/14485 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/14958 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/14958 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/14923 -> #closing won't implement aufs doesn't work seperated! Arch Linux changes: - removed snd-pcspkr module #14958 - changed to lzma kernel compression - removed dsdt patch, it doesn't work anymore, probably we can remove it forever. Please shout out loud, if you really need this! - remove rt2500 when moving to core repository Intel kms forum link: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=528543 Remove binary modules from extra? Guys opinions on this? madwifi -> AUR # supported by ath5k and ath9k normally openswan-klisp -> AUR # broken since ages Enjoy have fun and give me feedback, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.30-2
by Dieter Plaetinck 13 Jun '09

13 Jun '09

On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:41:33 +0200 Tobias Powalowski <t.powa(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Am Samstag 13 Juni 2009 schrieben Sie: > > On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:19:24 +0200 > > > > > > What's the Arch policy on the new default mount options for ext3? > > data=ordered (old, safe, slow behaviour) > > or > > data=writeback (new default, faster but riskier) > > > > I read on http://lwn.net/Articles/328363/ that you can customize the > > default setting. > > Personally I'ld stick to ordered for at least until the new > > data=guarded arrives but maybe that's just me. > > > > Dieter > It is not set per default, the defaults you set in fstab are used. > greetings > tpowa > And if in fstab you set your options to be "defaults" ? then surely the kernel has predefined defaults per filesystem (which can be configured at kernel configuration time), including a "data mode" for ext filesystems, or am i missing something? Dieter

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[arch-general] resolution stuck at 640x480
by prad 13 Jun '09

13 Jun '09

this is on an older machine 450MHz with 128M ram and 3D rage card - working off an lcd monitor for whom i've had to set horizsync 30-35 vertrefresh 50-100 (or it tries to overshoot the monitor's capabilities and the screen locks up with an outofrange error for the horizsync. everything installed fine, but even with the following in xorg.conf: driver set to ati defaultdepth to 16 modes "1024x768" "800x600" it comes up as 640x480 also, i need to exec xterm& before going into lxde or the cursor doesn't show up. i've already pacmaned xf86-video-r128 (rage driver) xf86-video-ati (ati driver) it works fine in 640x480 (though a bit rough), but it would be nice to get at least 800x600. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's

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Re: [arch-general] [signoff] kernel26 2.6.30-2
by Adrian C. 13 Jun '09

13 Jun '09

On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, Tobias Powalowski wrote: > Remove binary modules from extra? > Guys opinions on this? > madwifi -> AUR # supported by ath5k and ath9k normally Hi, ath5k seems to be solid. In all my testing it proved to be stable, even with injection. However last time I checked they still didn't support Master mode. According to linuxwireless they still don't (http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k#features) Madwifi supports this for ages of course. The Turbo and Super modes are also present even in the cheapest of cards, probably not commonly used, but present. I also want to mention the BBS topic on kernel panics on Acer machines (http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=73877) It seems to be a bug in the wmi driver which affects acer-wmi when stack protection is enabled. Patch is available somewhere on the LKML and is waiting to go upstream. It would be good to warn users to blacklist acer_wmi when this kernel goes out of testing. Cheers. -- Adrian C. (anrxc) | anrxc..sysphere.org | GPG ID: D20A0618 GPG FP: 02A5 628A D8EE 2A93 996E 929F D5CB 31B7 D20A 0618

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[arch-general] Trouble building gmime
by Baho Utot 13 Jun '09

13 Jun '09

Any One seen this error ? bin/install -c .libs/uudecode /build/pkg/bin/uudecode make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-data-am'. make[3]: Leaving directory `/build/src/gmime-2.2.21/src' make[2]: Leaving directory `/build/src/gmime-2.2.21/src' make[1]: Leaving directory `/build/src/gmime-2.2.21/src' Making install in mono make[1]: Entering directory `/build/src/gmime-2.2.21/mono' make[2]: Entering directory `/build/src/gmime-2.2.21/mono' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'. /usr/bin/gacutil /i gmime-sharp.dll /f /package gmime-sharp /gacdir /build/pkg/lib Failure adding assembly gmime-sharp.dll to the cache: Strong name cannot be verified for delay-signed assembly make[2]: *** [install-data-local] Error 1

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Re: [arch-general] namcap.log in clean chroot
by Baho Utot 12 Jun '09

12 Jun '09

On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 11:07 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Baho Utot wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 10:27 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > > > >> Baho Utot wrote: > >> > >>> I have install namcap to my clean chroot and it gives me this error: > >>> > >>> Error: Problem reading *.pkg.tar.gz > >>> usage: /usr/bin/namcap [-r rulelist | --rules=rulelist] [-i | --info] > >>> package .. > >>> -r list : returns list of available rules > >>> -i : prints information responses from rules > >>> > >>> Is there anything extra I need to do to get namcap working in clean > >>> chroot? > >>> > >>> > >> It is running but not finding any packages in the directory it is > >> looking at... > >> > >> Allan > >> > > > > Why not? I am using the arch devtools scripts and it is called from > > there. I am not calling it I think the makechrootpkg is calling it but > > I don't know for sure as I have not looked at the script > > > > The namcap.log file is in /home/Chroot/rw/pkgdest sub directory. > > > > I am using sudo makechroot -c -r /home/Chroot -u -- --noconfirm to run > > the clean chroot build. > > > > Should it not find the package? > > > > Well, you seem to be using the unreleased devtools from git so it could > be broken. I do not like having namcap (and hence python) in a "clean" > chroot so have never tested. > > Allan > > > > Yes I am using a git version, unionfs didn't work on my clean install and some one here gave me a url to the git version to work with aufs2 Does the unionfs work on a new install? I had trouble building in a clean chroot on my new install, it kept failing because unionfs was nissing.

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[arch-general] Openbox - great lightweight desktop, similar to icewm, but better in several regards
by David C. Rankin 12 Jun '09

12 Jun '09

Listmates, After reading the newsletter article about old boxes with minimal hardware collecting dust in a closet, I thought about the openbox desktop I had just given a run-through and thought I would pass it along. You have several lightweight desktops to choose from, icewm, fluxbox, etc.., but also add openbox to the list. As a minimal desktop, it is pretty cool. Damn fast, easily configurable, and well implemented. (it even ran Virtualbox with a XP guest for me) It is similar to icewm in operation, but if you want a panel, you will need to choose and install one. However it does allow for minimized apps and has a good app-switcher (alt+tab) and middle-mouse switches between desktops. The only thing I didn't find was an Alt+F2 run command equivalent (I'm sure it's there, I just haven't found it) If you do take a look at openbox (not KDE/openbox or Gnome/openbox, just openbox), then go ahead an install 'obmenu' and 'obconf' that help with menu configuration and theme settings, etc. To help with background selection, you can download wallmenu-0.3.py. I modified the one at my site to provide a sorted list of wallpapers in /usr/share/wallpapers that works well with the default openSuSE setup. Just edit the script and change the directory location if you want it to look in other locations. http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/openbox/wallmenu-0.3.py (you will need to edit the path to the wallpaper directory of your choosing in the script) Additionally, to make it available in the menu, you can add the script as a pipe-menu, or just download the menu.xml from my site and copy it to ~/.config/openbox/ and it is already there under the "System" menu. http://www.3111skyline.com/download/linux/openbox/menu.xml The only other file you need to play with to make openbox really functional is the ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh. You can set any additional programs or scrips you would like to start at login. On suse I needed to start wifi with knetworkmanager if it wasn't started, but with Arch, I just set my background image with feh: # Set background image feh --bg-scale /home/david/linux/wallpapers/1440/spacestation- panels-2-1440.jpg One other thing I did was to modify the Onyx theme to darken the inactive window titlebar and the active titlebar text. If you want to give it a try, just copy the "Onyx-dcr" directory to themes directory and it will be available in obconf for selection. All in all, I was as impressed with openbox as I was with icewm. Both are great lightweight window managers that will get the job done and, if you are on older hardware, they will definitely blow the doors off KDE/Gnome from a performance perspective. Pretty cool. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] namcap.log in clean chroot
by Baho Utot 12 Jun '09

12 Jun '09

On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 10:27 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Baho Utot wrote: > > I have install namcap to my clean chroot and it gives me this error: > > > > Error: Problem reading *.pkg.tar.gz > > usage: /usr/bin/namcap [-r rulelist | --rules=rulelist] [-i | --info] > > package .. > > -r list : returns list of available rules > > -i : prints information responses from rules > > > > Is there anything extra I need to do to get namcap working in clean > > chroot? > > > > It is running but not finding any packages in the directory it is > looking at... > > Allan Why not? I am using the arch devtools scripts and it is called from there. I am not calling it I think the makechrootpkg is calling it but I don't know for sure as I have not looked at the script The namcap.log file is in /home/Chroot/rw/pkgdest sub directory. I am using sudo makechroot -c -r /home/Chroot -u -- --noconfirm to run the clean chroot build. Should it not find the package?

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[arch-general] Mutt - mailbox timestamp problem
by Alessandro Doro 12 Jun '09

12 Jun '09

Hi, today it seems that mutt has a problem with my mailboxes. After exiting the mtime is not touched; only atime and ctime are updated. Is anyone experiencing this? $ stat mymail.mb File: `mymail.mb' Size: 20271475 Blocks: 39648 IO Block: 4096 regular file Device: 803h/2051d Inode: 686968 Links: 1 Access: (0600/-rw-------) Uid: ( 1000/ user) Gid: ( 100/ users) Access: 2009-06-12 15:24:28.000000000 +0200 Modify: 2009-06-12 15:10:21.000000000 +0200 Change: 2009-06-12 15:24:28.000000000 +0200 Nothing suspicious in recent package updates. [2009-06-10 02:17] synchronizing package lists [2009-06-10 02:18] starting full system upgrade [2009-06-10 02:20] upgraded alsa-utils (1.0.20-1 -> 1.0.20-2) [2009-06-10 02:20] upgraded conky (1.7.1-1 -> 1.7.1-2) [2009-06-10 02:20] upgraded kdemod3-ksplash-engine-flexible (0.3-6 -> 0.3-7) [2009-06-10 02:20] upgraded pmount (0.9.19-2 -> 0.9.19-3) [2009-06-12 13:19] synchronizing package lists [2009-06-12 13:20] starting full system upgrade [2009-06-12 13:21] removed lzma-utils (4.32.7-1) [2009-06-12 13:21] installed xz-utils (4.999.8beta-3) [2009-06-12 13:21] upgraded chmlib (0.39-1 -> 0.40-1) [2009-06-12 13:21] upgraded cln (1.2.2-1 -> 1.2.2-2) [2009-06-12 13:21] upgraded conky (1.7.1-2 -> 1.7.1.1-1) [2009-06-12 13:21] upgraded glade (3.6.3-1 -> 3.6.4-1) [2009-06-12 13:21] upgraded libarchive (2.7.0-1 -> 2.7.0-2) [2009-06-12 13:21] upgraded unzip (5.52-4 -> 6.0-2) [2009-06-12 13:22] upgraded yelp (2.26.0-1 -> 2.26.0-2)

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