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Re: [aur-general] [arch-general] opensp compile fails
by Daenyth Blank 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 20:33, Baho Utot <baho-utot(a)columbus.rr.com> wrote: > > OpenSp PKGBUILD fails to compile with the following error: > > g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../include -I../generic -march=native -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -c > ArcEngine.cxx -MT > ArcEngine.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/ArcEngine.TPlo -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/ArcEngine.lo > In file included from ArcEngine.cxx:20: > ../include/InternalInputSource.h:37: error: extra > qualification 'OpenSP::InternalInputSource::' on > member 'asInternalInputSource' > make[3]: *** [ArcEngine.lo] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/scrat/ARCH/opensp/src/OpenSP-1.5.1/lib' > make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/scrat/ARCH/opensp/src/OpenSP-1.5.1/lib' > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/scrat/ARCH/opensp/src/OpenSP-1.5.1' > make: *** [all] Error 2 > ==> ERROR: Build Failed. > > It looks like it is orphaned so > > Here is a patch to fix this: > > cat InternalInputSource.patch > > --- OpenSP-1.5.1~/include/InternalInputSource.h 2003-07-17 > 14:14:00.000000000 -0400 > +++ OpenSP-1.5.1/include/InternalInputSource.h 2008-11-13 > 12:24:04.591406546 -0500 > @@ -34,7 +34,7 @@ > void pushCharRef(Char ch, const NamedCharRef &); > Boolean rewind(Messenger &); > const StringC *contents(); > - InternalInputSource *InternalInputSource::asInternalInputSource(); > + InternalInputSource *asInternalInputSource(); > ~InternalInputSource(); > private: > InternalInputSource(const InternalInputSource &); // undefined > > Here is a patch file for the PKGBUILD > > cat PKGBUILD.patch > > --- PKGBUILD 2008-12-02 20:27:40.102778984 -0500 > +++ pkgbuild 2008-12-02 20:27:29.412780668 -0500 > @@ -15,6 +15,7 @@ > cd $startdir/src/OpenSP-$pkgver > pwd > patch -Np1 -i ../opensp-gcc34.patch || return 1 > + patch -Np1 -i ../InternalInputSource.patch || return 1 > ./configure --prefix=/usr \ > --disable-nls \ > --enable-http \ > If it's orphaned in the AUR, simply adopt it and update it with your fixes.

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[aur-general] Orphan request: nestopia gens yabause
by Tiago Pierezan Camargo 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

Hi, Those packages (nestopia, gens, and yabause) are flagged out of date for some time. I tried to contact the maintainer without success. I'd like to adopt those packages. -- Tiago Pierezan Camargo milopi @ irc.freenode.net

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[aur-general] pkgstats and community - attempt 2
by Allan McRae 03 Dec '08

03 Dec '08

This whole thing has got a bit out of hand... All I wanted to do was organize a meeting for TUs to discuss the results of the pkgstats script. And now I arrive back to ~70 email with back and forward about how things should be. I am actually quite disappointed with some of the responses there. I'll put this out there first before I carry on with this email. I am a dev. I am a TU. I do not care about titles and my only aim here is to serve the Arch community better. I am not taking a dev or TU point of view here at all. I may not have been around as long as others but I know the history of the community repo and the AUR voting system. That being said, the pkgstats results point to a problem in the [community] repo. I suggested we should discuss this on IRC at some stage. ~70 emails later, that option seems to have been forgotten. So here is the issue: * There is no point taking up server space and bandwidth with packages that nobody or very, very few people use. * pkgstats points to a few hundred packages that fall into the not very used category in both [extra] and [community]. The devs are discussing what to with packages in [extra]. Note that does not necessarily mean those packages are automatically dropped to the AUR as that make no sense for some packages. I.e. compromise is being made. Please read that again. Compromise... So we need to think about what the purpose of the [community] repo is. It is obviously to supplement [core] and [extra]. Packages in [core] are the base of a system, packages in [extra] define Arch as a distro and are widely used by its users, packages in [community] do what? So lets start there. What should the [community] repo be doing? What is its purpose? There is no point discussing anything else until that is well defined. All responses must start with "The [community] repo is ..." Allan

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[aur-general] package update request
by Henri Häkkinen 02 Dec '08

02 Dec '08

Hello, The vala 0.3.5-1 package seems to be seriously out of date and the author is not responding to my requests. Could somebody update this or can I assume the ownership of it? http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7203 -- Henri Häkkinen

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[aur-general] community back-end rewrite
by Allan McRae 02 Dec '08

02 Dec '08

Hi all, In the TU meetings there was some discussion about doing a rewrite/update/fix-up of the [community] back-end. I am not sure who all is looking at this and what the plans are - hence this email. Can people who are looking at this or interested in looking at this give a ping back to this message with whatever plans you have or work you have already done. Things I want to flag: - we should get a git repo for a community-backend project on the arch server and separate this from the aur site code. - we should switch SCM tools from CVS. I am strongly in favour of using the same system as the main repos which would allow much code reuse and easily get us a testing repo for community packages. (No more big rebuild issues!). Allan

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[aur-general] Proposed rules for packages entering [community]
by Allan McRae 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

Hi all, As part of the TU meetings it was decided to post the proposal for restricting packages entering [community] here for discussion before voting. Here is the current wording: [proposal] * Only "popular" packages may enter the repo, as defined by 1% usage from pkgstats or 10 votes on the AUR. * Automatic exceptions to this rule are: - i18n packages - accessibility packages - drivers - dependencies, including makedeps and optdeps - packages that are part of a collection and are intended to be distributed together, provided the primary part of this collection satisfies the definition of popular * Any additions not covered by the above criteria must first be proposed on the aur-general mailing list, explaining the reason for the exemption (e.g. renamed package, new package) at which point a general consensus from the TUs will be reached. TUs with large numbers of "non-popular" packages are more likely to be rejected. * TUs are strongly encouraged to move packages they currently maintain from [community] if they have low usage. No enforcement will be made, although resigning TUs packages may be filtered before adoption can occur. [end proposal] So, go ahead and discuss. Especially focus on the wording and regions that people would feel need clarification before I call for a formal vote. In particular, I think the process for addition of packages which do not meet the popularity criteria needs to be defined better, so any ideas there would be appreciated. Any further additions to do with cleaning the current package load in [community] for low usage package is a separate issue and will be discussed at a later date. Allan

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[aur-general] Current TUs
by Aaron Griffin 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

Would someone mind telling me which people on this list are no longer TUs? This is the CVS passwd file... whoops http://dev.archlinux.org/~aaron/tu_names

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Re: [aur-general] Proposed rules for packages entering [community]
by Loui Chang 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 11:54:20PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Daenyth Blank wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 22:27, Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> As part of the TU meetings it was decided to post the proposal for > >> restricting packages entering [community] here for discussion before > >> voting. > >> > > > > My primary issue with the current proposal is that I feel 10 votes is > > slightly high for a first step. I'd *much* rather see 3-5 as a > > minimum, and I think others would as well. > > > > 89/97 packages with 0% usage on package stats have 5 votes or less. So this > would achieve a net result of nothing. How does that achieve a net result of nothing? If these rules were already in place it could have meant a net result of more than 500 less packages in community that we need to deal with.

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Re: [aur-general] Proposed rules for packages entering [community]
by Daenyth Blank 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

> 89/97 packages with 0% usage on package stats have 5 votes or less. So this > would achieve a net result of nothing. > Allan > I didn't realize that was the case. I retract my point then.

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Re: [aur-general] TU Meeting
by Daenyth Blank 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 08:23, Daenyth Blank <daenyth(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> - It was proposed to add a safe flag on TUs packages in the AUR to encourage >> TUs to leave packages out of community while still being marked in a way as >> they are known to be good PKGBUILDs > > I missed this part... luckily. Safe flags were happily killed with a > few months ago. If you mean to add them to [community] packages only, > then it doesn't make sense to me: to make a TU you don't just need the > User, you also need the Trust. Either you don't T the U from the > beginning (and s/he doesn't get elected) or you T, and then you don't > need to flag anything. If someone notices an anomaly in a TU's > PKGBUILD quality, it should readily be reported to the list to take > action. The idea was that some people were putting packages in community which didn't need to be there, for the reason that having it in community assures that it's safe. If it were brought back, it would be for the purpose of encouraging TUs to use unsupported for packages that don't belong in community, while still allowing users to see *at a glance* if the package was made by a TU or not. Maybe code can explain better... on_upload { [...do stuff...] flag_unsafe $package if $uploader.is_a_tu then flag_safe $package }

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[aur-general] TU Meeting
by Allan McRae 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

Hi TU's, I would like to organize a TU meeting on IRC to discuss the results of the pkgstats script and the direction for the [community] repo. I am probably the person with the worst time zone issues so I am happy to take a very late night time slot. I guess a weekend would be best to deal with the multiple time zones. So how are peoples availabilities (provide times/timezones): 15/16 November 22/23 November 29/30 November It would be good if someone (who isn't me...) sets up a temporary wiki page to handle this. Allan

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Re: [aur-general] community back-end rewrite
by Loui Chang 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 11:35:18AM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Hi all, > > In the TU meetings there was some discussion about doing a > rewrite/update/fix-up of the [community] back-end. I am not sure who all is > looking at this and what the plans are - hence this email. > > Can people who are looking at this or interested in looking at this give a > ping back to this message with whatever plans you have or work you have > already done. > > Things I want to flag: > - we should get a git repo for a community-backend project on the arch > server and separate this from the aur site code. - we should switch SCM > tools from CVS. I am strongly in favour of using the same system as the > main repos which would allow much code reuse and easily get us a testing > repo for community packages. (No more big rebuild issues!). I'm involved with AUR development and have recently studied and begin to understand the tupkg code. Some improvements based on that activity will be put into action soon. I'll continue to help maintain AUR until I feel it has reached a certain point of efficiency and effectiveness where it no longer needs major maintenance. My plan from there is to start design and development on a new system that can be used for repo maintenance in AUR as well as any other package repo project, like arch-games, or even maybe official repos. These were actually some of my main goals in becoming a TU. I don't there is any benefit from putting tupkg code in a different repo than the AUR web interface. They are tied together by the DB and separating them may cause disjointed development and other problems. However we could organise the source tree and document how the system works a little better. Cheers!

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Re: [aur-general] Proposed rules for packages entering [community]
by Loui Chang 01 Dec '08

01 Dec '08

On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 01:27:33PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Hi all, > > As part of the TU meetings it was decided to post the proposal for > restricting packages entering [community] here for discussion before voting. > Here is the current wording: > > [proposal] > > * Only "popular" packages may enter the repo, as defined by 1% usage from > pkgstats or 10 votes on the AUR. > > * Automatic exceptions to this rule are: > - i18n packages > - accessibility packages > - drivers > - dependencies, including makedeps and optdeps > - packages that are part of a collection and are intended to be distributed > together, provided the primary part of this collection satisfies the > definition of popular > > * Any additions not covered by the above criteria must first be proposed on > the aur-general mailing list, explaining the reason for the exemption (e.g. > renamed package, new package) at which point a general consensus from the > TUs will be reached. TUs with large numbers of "non-popular" packages are > more likely to be rejected. > > * TUs are strongly encouraged to move packages they currently maintain from > [community] if they have low usage. No enforcement will be made, although > resigning TUs packages may be filtered before adoption can occur. > > [end proposal] Thank you for taking the initiative to put this forward Allan. I really think we've had enough discussion about this topic. Nevertheless the motion requires a set discussion period and voting period. How about five days discussion, and five days voting? Cheers!

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[aur-general] mailing list archives not showing up
by Abhishek Dasgupta 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

The mailing list archives at http://archlinux.org/pipermail/* are returning a 404. -- Abhishek

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[aur-general] My thoughts on the [Community] policy discussion
by Drew Frank 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

Hi all, First off, I'd like to introduce myself so you can weigh my observations appropriately. My name is Drew. I'm a casual Arch user, and until recently my only experience with the AUR was using yaourt to download and install packages (and pacman to install from [Community], but I didn't really understand what that meant). Recently I've been following the discussion on this list regarding how to determine which packages belong in [Community]. Despite my lack of Arch/AUR mastery, I'd like to offer my two cents. I claim: 1. If it were possible to know with certainty that a given package were not in use by anybody (or only by a very small number of people), there would be overwhelming agreement that the package does not belong in [Community]. 2. Both vote counts and pkgstats statistics, as they are currently generated, are flawed metrics of package popularity. 3. Nearly all of the controversy over various [Community] admission policies stems from the fact that different people place different levels of trust in the information provided by votes and pkgstats. I feel like I'm a bit late to the party, but unless there is a critical need to act now my recommendation would be to first set up a system whereby accurate usage statistics are obtained and then proceed to develop policy based on accurate, interpretable statistics. Drew

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[aur-general] huge differencies between i686 and x86_64 community repo
by Jaroslav Lichtblau 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

Hi fellow TUs! A quick look on the nice page showing differencies between our i686 and x86_64 repos [1], shows a pretty impresive list in our [community] repository. Could we please work on this a bit and keep it synchronised! IMHO even if some of us don't have access to both architectures, we can talk to someone who does and builds it for us. Have a nice day Jaroslav [1] http://www.archlinux.de/?page=ArchitectureDifferences -- Die Liebe ist der einzige Weg, auf dem selbst die Dummen zu einer gewissen Größe gelangen. -- Honoré de Balzac

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Re: [aur-general] TU Meeting
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

-----Original Message----- > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:02:22 +0100 > Subject: Re: [aur-general] TU Meeting > From: Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" > <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Hey all, > > Well the meeting went ahead. Not a great turn out.... > > Here is the log: > http://dev.archlinux.org/~allan/tu-meeting-2008-11-29.txt > > Allan > > Hello, maybe it is due to my low irc experiences but I believes I was in the correct channel at nine pm. yesterday and ten yesterday , but nothing happened. Stefan

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Re: [aur-general] TU Meeting
by Loui Chang 30 Nov '08

30 Nov '08

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 07:03:10PM -0700, w9ya wrote: > On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Loui Chang <louipc.ist(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 01:44:30PM -0700, w9ya wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Loui Chang <louipc.ist(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > My apologies. The list [1] is a survey of packages with under four > > votes > > > > done a couple of weeks ago. > > > > > > > > This is the data represented, in order: > > > > number of votes > > > > size in KB > > > > package name > > > > > > > > Remove: [0] 2888.58 jump-project > > > > > > > > At the end are some totals. > > > > > > > > [1] http://omploader.org/veDEy > > > > > > > > > ANALYSIS of your data as presented: The data you have generated merely > > shows > > > some low single digit reduced server space reductions gained from removal > > of > > > these pacakges. It does NOT show any other impact in and of itself. I > > again > > > ask for a declared meaning to the numbers. > > > > Please look at the totals Bob. These are not low single digit > > reductions. > > Yes, as a percentage they would be. And when looking at statistics, that > would be the most important numbers; i.e. How big a percentage difference > will this make. I'm not going to look up exact numbers right now, but [community] takes up about 11G. This would reduce space usage by about 1G, so that would make about 9% reduction in disk space. The proposal that will currently be tabled will not effect packages currently in [community] though. Cheers.

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Re: [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] Is pizzapunk still around?
by Loui Chang 29 Nov '08

29 Nov '08

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 12:15:30AM +1000, Jud wrote: > Does anybody know if Alexander Fehr aka pizzapunk is still around? > > He has growing list of out-of-date packages. > > I can supply diff's for: > aria2 > transmission-cli > transmission-gtk > xarchiver > > There are many more in extra and community: > <http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?K=pizzapunk&SeB=m> This is more appropriate for the aur-general list. Yes he's still around. Last I heard he was requesting access to [community] because he was mistakenly removed. I'm not sure what the status of that is now.

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Re: [aur-general] TU Meeting
by Loui Chang 29 Nov '08

29 Nov '08

On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 07:36:19PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > The minimum of three votes is clearly flawed if you look at the pkgstats > usage and compare the number of votes. In fact, I linked to another plot > which clearly shows this. The number 20 was a guideline that was around > when I first joined as a TU and if you look at the pkgstats results and try > separating packages with more or less that 1% usage, the optimal number of > votes arrives very near to 20 so I stuck with it. My point in a three vote minimum was to prevent blatant exploitation of [community]. There's nothing flawed about it. The repo should be allowed a fair amount of leeway in terms of what is included. This isn't [core] or [extra] after all. At this point I wouldn't agree with anything higher than a five vote minimum.

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[aur-general] TU meeting
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 29 Nov '08

29 Nov '08

Hello it comes late, but hopefully not too late: may I ask for a key to #archlinux-tu ? I think I do not have one. Stefan

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[aur-general] amarok2 beta packages doubles
by Christian Scharkus 27 Nov '08

27 Nov '08

Hi I just looked for some package containing the latest beta of the amarok music player but there are two packages containing beta3 (amarok2 and amarok-beta3). May the question is childish but: why two packages with the very same content? It just puzzles beginners. Ofcause for archivement are packages like amarok-beta2 and amarok-beta3 useful but only few users use old beta-software and it messes arround in AUR in my eyes. Greetings Raubkopierer

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Re: [aur-general] TU Meeting
by Ronald van Haren 27 Nov '08

27 Nov '08

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 3:45 PM, Firmicus <Firmicus(a)gmx.net> wrote: > Daniel J Griffiths a écrit : >> >> Daenyth Blank wrote: >>>> >>>> For Allan will be in the morning, for people who are in Europe will be >>>> late at night 2am or 3am.. Someone wanna try with some hours? I >>>> propose 10 pm at GMT +01:00 for Hugo,Kessia,Paulo and USA people will >>>> be in the day (I don't know if you guys can be available on "day", >>>> it's hard, it's a sunday, i understand perfectly if you can't), what >>>> do you think guys? >>>> >>> >>> I think I can manage that. 16:00 for East coast USA >>> >>> >> >> Sounds good to me. >> > > Should be OK with me too. > Hopefully I won't make a fool of myself, being a total neophyte (aka n00b) > as far as IRC is concerned :) > > So I guess everybody is okay with next sunday at 10pm GMT +1:00. Anyone cares to remember me the #archlinux-tu@freenode key on private mail please, I think I've lost it. Thanks. Ronald

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[aur-general] Duplicate kaffeine for KDE4 packages.
by Peter Lewis 26 Nov '08

26 Nov '08

Hi there, I'm the maintainer of neither, but I reckon that these two are duplicate packages: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19155 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=20013 Should one be deleted? Thanks! Pete.

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[aur-general] can not update community package
by Sergej Pupykin 24 Nov '08

24 Nov '08

Hi, Packages does not appear on ftp and web interface after uploading and tagging. (both arch trac, openmotif-x86_64) It seems something broken...

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[aur-general] Mozilla Firefox doesn't update because of xulrunner
by Martin 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

Hello all. If I try to upgrade Mozilla Firefox it doesn't work. :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... error: cannot resolve "xulrunner=1.9.0.4", a dependency of "firefox" error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: firefox: requires xulrunner=1.9.0.4 I tried to get xulrunner in AUR but it wasn't there, too. I thought this could be a good hint for you. I want to excuse my english, I'm no native speaker and new to Linux. Greetings, Martin

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[aur-general] Please remove an accidentaly created package
by Borislav Gerassimov 23 Nov '08

23 Nov '08

Hi, I've just adopted the bluez-git package. I uploaded a new pkgbuild,but I forgot to change the pkgname line... Please remove the bluez package from aur. I'm really sorry about that... Borislav Gerassimov

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[aur-general] How to make CVS work again
by Simo Leone 21 Nov '08

21 Nov '08

Hey guys, During the server changes today, the path to the community CVS tree changed. In order to make your existing checkouts work again, please run the following at the root of your CVS checkout: find . -path '*CVS/Root' -exec sed -i 's#/home/cvs-community#/srv/cvs/cvs-community#g' {} ';' CVS will ask you to re-login if you had your credentials saved, due to the change in path. In addition, CVS may not be available until tomorrow morning due to permissions issues with the CVS lock directory, as soon as someone with sudo wakes up, this should be fixed. -S PS: There is a whole slew of documentation about the AUR that now needs updating for the new path, anyone that wants to tackle this gets a hundred gold stars and a bunch of thank-you's.

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[aur-general] Eclipse plugin packaging standardization proposal
by bardo 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

Hi all. Maintaining a few Eclipse plugins in [community] I stumbled in a lot of difficulties while packaging them. I then decided to create a PKGBUILD prototype for these package and propose it as a packaging standard. I'd like to have some input from the community, TUs and devs about this. If the response is positive I'll wikify the whole thing and make it available to everyone. You can find the prototype here[1], along with the explanation of how it works and why. Thanks, Corrado [1] http://blog.bardland.org/2008/11/20/arch-linux-eclipse-plug-in-packaging-a-…

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[aur-general] WANTED: Enthusiastic Bluetooth Package Maintainer
by Aaron Griffin 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

Join the exciting world of Arch Linux:- Red Carpet, Limos, Lingerie Parties, Magazine Covers... If you expect any of that then don't apply. We are looking for a maintainer for the bluetooth-related packages in the official ArchLinux repos. None of the current developers make use of this technology and thus are unable to maintain them at the level we'd like. So we're going to open up the floor here for anyone who actually USES and CARES about bluetooth on Arch. For the time being, this offer is open to TUs only. If we cannot find someone, we may make a public announcement. Skills required: - Teamplayer - Proactive and shows initiative - Excellent Communication Skills - Experience with Bluetooth Hardware and Software - Own 64-bit Hardware with Arch Linux (optional, but a huge plus) - Own Bluetooth Hardware - Competent understanding and practical application of the Arch Packaging Standards <http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Packaging_Standards> Send a profile outlining yourself and your relevant skills and experience to: aaron(a)archlinux.org

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[aur-general] Anyone want ot adopt VirtualBox?
by Andrea Scarpino 19 Nov '08

19 Nov '08

Hi DEVs/TUs, I don't using virtualbox since months and now who my desktop is dead I can't build it on my laptop @1.7Ghz. It spend more time. Then I want to know if someone of you want to adopt virtualbox packages. It is out-of-date but I've all pkgbuilds ready to work. packages are: virtualbox-additions virtualbox-modules virtualbox-ose virtualbox-ose-additions virtualbox-ose-additions-modules dev86 iasl xalan-c xerces-c Thanks, best regards -- Andrea `BaSh` Scarpino Arch Linux Trusted User Linux User: #430842

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[aur-general] Please orphan gringotts for me
by Rorschach 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

Hi, I want to take over the maintaince of the gringotts package in AUR. It hasn't been updated for months and wasn't packaged correclty. Because of some anti-ptrace protections gringotts needs to have the suid-bit set. I'm pretty familiar with gringotts and contributed some patches upstream for it. I asked in the forum and there I was told to ask on the mailinglist if some TU could orphan gringotts for me. Here's the link to the packkage in AUR: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=1336 . regards

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[aur-general] kernel updates render package obsolete
by Mads Michelsen 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

I'm maintaining the module package fsaa1655g (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8281) a job I took over as the package had for all intents and purposes been abandoned. My problem is that every time the kernel is updated - even the smallest update - the package becomes obsolete. I'm pretty ignorant of these things but I suppose that is how things are for some (a lot? all?) non-kernel-modules. The particular problem with this module is that my laptop depends on it for wireless access (it turns on the wireless radio) and so when the kernel is upgraded and the module isn't immidiately upgraded with it, the laptop is restarted, the result is no wireless - which can make it hard to get the module upgraded for one thing. So I guess my questions are: 1) Is there some way around the module becoming outdated with each and every kernel update? and if not 2) For myself, I can just keep the source code on my drive and rebuild it whenever this happens - but is there some way of altering the PKGBUILD to do the same? 3) Any other way around the issue apart from quickly updating the package whenever there's a kernel upgrade? - Mads

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Re: [aur-general] aur-general Digest, Vol 49, Issue 25
by Abdul Halim 18 Nov '08

18 Nov '08

Dkms will allow you to auto compile upon pc restart and kernel upgrade. But then again, Arch don't use dkms and I still quite new to know the history of why not to use dkms. On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:00 AM, <aur-general-request(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Send aur-general mailing list submissions to > aur-general(a)archlinux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aur-general > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > aur-general-request(a)archlinux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > aur-general-owner(a)archlinux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of aur-general digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. kernel updates render package obsolete (Mads Michelsen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:47:43 +0100 > From: Mads Michelsen <chochem(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [aur-general] kernel updates render package obsolete > To: aur-general(a)archlinux.org > Message-ID: <20081117174743.17bb28a6(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > I'm maintaining the module package fsaa1655g > (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8281) a job I took > over as the package had for all intents and purposes been abandoned. > > My problem is that every time the kernel is updated - even the smallest > update - the package becomes obsolete. I'm pretty ignorant of these > things but I suppose that is how things are for some (a lot? all?) > non-kernel-modules. The particular problem with this module is that > my laptop depends on it for wireless access (it turns on the wireless > radio) and so when the kernel is upgraded and the module isn't > immidiately upgraded with it, the laptop is restarted, the result is no > wireless - which can make it hard to get the module upgraded for one > thing. > > So I guess my questions are: > 1) Is there some way around the module becoming outdated with each and > every kernel update? and if not > 2) For myself, I can just keep the source code on my drive and rebuild > it whenever this happens - but is there some way of altering the > PKGBUILD to do the same? > 3) Any other way around the issue apart from > quickly updating the package whenever there's a kernel upgrade? > > - Mads > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > aur-general mailing list > aur-general(a)archlinux.org > http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aur-general > > > End of aur-general Digest, Vol 49, Issue 25 > ******************************************* >

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[aur-general] Orphan request
by Sylvester Johansson 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

Hello! I would like to request that the packages ocaml-findlib, ocaml-lablgl and ocaml-ounit to be orphaned. I tried to contact the maintainer, but got a mail delivery failure. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7238 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7228 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7239

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[aur-general] New Trusted User: Dan Griffiths (Ghost1227)
by Loui Chang 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

With twenty one votes for and zero against we have a new Trusted User. Congratulations on becoming a Trusted User Dan! I've changed your account on AUR. Please see this Checklist to get yourself setup: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/New_Trusted_User_Checklist

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[aur-general] Request for removing jap package in community repository in favor of jondo package in AUR
by Rorschach 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

Hi, in the community-repository is a package called jap. This package has some disadvantages compaired with the jondo-package I created in AUR: * misnamend: The application jap, developed by AN.ON and TU Dresden is discontinued for nearly two years now but jondo was developed out of it. The java-archive still has the name JAP.jar but the application itself isn't called jap anymore but jondo so the package has the wrong name. In short the package in the community-repository is called jap but contains jondo (now developed still under BSD-licence by jondos.de) . * no man-page * no menu-entry * depends on prorpeitary jre-version although the free openjdk6-version works as well! Is it possible to remove jap in favor of jondo? Is this at all the right place to ask for this? greetings

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[aur-general] How to submit manpage, *.desktop-files and corresponging icon to AUR?
by Rorschach 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

Hi, I took over the work on the orphaned package jondo (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17965) Because I already packaged jondo for debian and ubuntu I also want to package it for ArchLinux. Because upstream is just offering the JAP.jar I had to create the man-page, *.desktop file for the menu-entry and the corresponding image by myself. If I create the package on my system with makepkg everything seems to work fine. All files are installed correctly, everything works as it should,.. But the problem is if I upload the PKGBUILD to AUR just the PKGBUILD-File is uploaded but how do I get the other files uploaded to AUR? I've seen a lot of packages which had other files uploaded like patch-files and so on.. but how do I do it? I can't find anything in the AUR-webinterface about it. greetings

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[aur-general] vala package
by Michael Kanis 14 Nov '08

14 Nov '08

Hello, in AUR there is a package for the Vala compiler: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7203 It is version 0.3.5, whereas the current upstream version is 0.5.1. I flagged the package out-of-date, left a comment and tried to contact the maintainer via e-mail. However I got no response. The maintainer of the package, pizzapunk, seems to be a dev however, so I guess he's still active. Could you please update the package or, if not, disown it. I would like to adopt and update it. Regards Michael

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Re: [aur-general] TU Meeting
by Simo Leone 12 Nov '08

12 Nov '08

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:12:04PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Hi TU's, > > I would like to organize a TU meeting on IRC to discuss the results of the > pkgstats script and the direction for the [community] repo. I am probably > the person with the worst time zone issues so I am happy to take a very > late night time slot. I guess a weekend would be best to deal with the > multiple time zones. > So how are peoples availabilities (provide times/timezones): > 15/16 November > 22/23 November > 29/30 November > > It would be good if someone (who isn't me...) sets up a temporary wiki page > to handle this. > I'm not really a TU anymore, but would anyone mind if I sat in and said insightful things once in a while? I'll add myself to the wiki page in case it's alright ;) -S

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[aur-general] CVS problem?
by Abhishek Dasgupta 11 Nov '08

11 Nov '08

While trying to commit to CVS at 1541 UTC, I got this error: cvs [login aborted]: connect to cvs.archlinux.org(66.211.213.17):2401 failed: Connection refused -- Abhishek

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[aur-general] Packages in Community and votes.
by Loui Chang 11 Nov '08

11 Nov '08

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 07:20:22AM -0700, w9ya wrote: > I would like to remind everyone that the TU system was NOT originated solely > to be based on votes, in fact there was no voting until much more recently. > > Also, when the voting was added to the TU system the community and TUs were > SPECIFICALLY told that the voting system would NEVER be used to make > decisions about or demands concerning what any individual TU decided to add. > There WERE concerns that just this type of "accounting" would be used to > determine how or what a TU may do. ONLY the TUs themselves make these > decisions. It has ALWAYS been that way. > > BTW.... I am not sure why this happens every few months or so, but it is a > repeating thought that somehow the voting system is a milestone setter and > thereby an issue for the TUs. If there is something in the wiki or other > documentation that would suggest or even say as much IT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED. > > Guys, if this is not clear to you, a search of the older mails should yield > a wealth of information about this from previous outbursts concerning the > suggested requirments for TUs from the voting system results. This thread diverged from: [arch-dev-public] pkgstats: first results If you have packages in community with zero or one votes there is a problem. You are abusing the resources of community plain and simple. Your packages should definitely have one vote (yourself). If you can't even garner one other person to vote there's not much point in putting the package into community. You'll upload it to the server, it will cost diskspace and bandwidth as it propagates through the mirrors, and no one will use it. Of course votes are not an absolute indicator of usage, but they are somewhat accurate as pkgstats shows. This means we need to change the way community is managed so we can make more efficient use of our resources. I've created a wiki page to outline my ideas: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Community Another point to consider is that gerolde (the Arch Linux server) is already being taxed to the point where it is becoming unstable. We can either try to do something to help the situation, or we can protect some maintainer's pride of having 100 unused packages in community.

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Re: [aur-general] aur-general Digest, Vol 49, Issue 17
by Abdul Halim 11 Nov '08

11 Nov '08

The community repository should still exist as there several packages that i use daily or weekly in fact such as amsn, dar, openobex, obexfs, compiz. Please don't remove the repository as i would like to see my daily applications being updated and easily downloaded. There are also some other useful package in community repository that i would like to try and not easily available from the previous distro I use. It is just 3 months that I have use Arch linux and I have yet to exploit the full power and unlimited possibilities of Arch linux. :-( On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 9:39 AM, <aur-general-request(a)archlinux.org> wrote: > Send aur-general mailing list submissions to > aur-general(a)archlinux.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aur-general > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > aur-general-request(a)archlinux.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > aur-general-owner(a)archlinux.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of aur-general digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Packages in Community and votes. (Aaron Griffin) > 2. Re: pkgstats and community - attempt 2 (Ond?ej Ku?era) > 3. Re: pkgstats and community - attempt 2 (Brandon Martin) > 4. Re: pkgstats and community - attempt 2 (Ronald van Haren) > 5. Re: Packages in Community and votes. (Aaron Schaefer) > 6. Re: Packages in Community and votes. (Loui Chang) > 7. Re: Packages in Community and votes. (Aaron Schaefer) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:05:40 -0600 > From: "Aaron Griffin" <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Packages in Community and votes. > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" > <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: > <d64a48980811101505g3a970bedtaaf399e460ed1da1(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Daenyth Blank <daenyth%2Barch(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> 1) The server is being strained (what parts exactly?) by the community repo. > > It's primarily disk space and IO load issues. > > The community repo and AUR are fairly large. A cron job which WAS > keeping the AUR's permissions in check was actually pegging our system > with so much load that we had to remove any handling of the AUR files > (hope the code is good enough for that). > > The AUR backend daemon opens every single package file (wtf?) when it > runs, which is a HUGE resource hog. In an ideal world, someone would > rewrite this to work the same way the offical repos work - with > repo-add and a separate decoupled script to load the mysql database > from a pacman DB. > > Sizes on disk: > community: 11G > extra: 11G > core: 330M > unsupported: 800M > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:17:20 +0100 > From: Ond?ej Ku?era <ondrej.kucera(a)centrum.cz> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] pkgstats and community - attempt 2 > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" > <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: <4918C100.30907(a)centrum.cz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed > > Hi, > > Allan McRae wrote: >> So lets start there. What should the [community] repo be doing? What >> is its purpose? There is no point discussing anything else until that >> is well defined. >> All responses must start with "The [community] repo is ..." > > The [community] repo is - in my non-dev, non-TU very humble opinion - a > repository for packages that are perhaps not as widely used as those in > [core] or those in [extra] but still used by enough users, so that it's > reasonable to provide them in binary form, providing that there is a way > to do so. I always figured that there is only so many devs and only so > many packages a single dev can maintain, which leads to a limited number > of packages in [core]/[extra]. That's why there are TUs and that's why > there is [community] - so that the number of packages provided in binary > form (by people that hopefully can be trusted) is larger. > > But what I actually wanted most to say was "amen" to your e-mail, Allan, > I think you've summarized feelings of many people... > > Ond?ej > > > -- > Cheers, > Ond?ej Ku?era > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:23:43 -0600 > From: Brandon Martin <bmartin(a)cu3edweb.com> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] pkgstats and community - attempt 2 > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" > <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: <afeffc3803b972349e442188e1eae9cf(a)cu3edweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:17:20 +0100, Ond?ej Ku?era > <ondrej.kucera(a)centrum.cz> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Allan McRae wrote: >>> So lets start there. What should the [community] repo be doing? What >>> is its purpose? There is no point discussing anything else until that >>> is well defined. >>> All responses must start with "The [community] repo is ..." >> >> The [community] repo is - in my non-dev, non-TU very humble opinion - a >> repository for packages that are perhaps not as widely used as those in >> [core] or those in [extra] but still used by enough users, so that it's >> reasonable to provide them in binary form, providing that there is a way >> to do so. I always figured that there is only so many devs and only so >> many packages a single dev can maintain, which leads to a limited number >> of packages in [core]/[extra]. That's why there are TUs and that's why >> there is [community] - so that the number of packages provided in binary >> form (by people that hopefully can be trusted) is larger. >> >> But what I actually wanted most to say was "amen" to your e-mail, Allan, >> I think you've summarized feelings of many people... > > The [community] repo is - > > Very well put this is what I thougth the community repo was for also. > > -- > Brandon Martin > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:17:09 +0100 > From: "Ronald van Haren" <pressh(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] pkgstats and community - attempt 2 > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" > <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: > <9fcf70360811101617h422b2615r5abd64eb2b064900(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 > > 2008/11/11 Ond?ej Ku?era <ondrej.kucera(a)centrum.cz>: >> Hi, >> >> Allan McRae wrote: >>> >>> So lets start there. What should the [community] repo be doing? What is >>> its purpose? There is no point discussing anything else until that is well >>> defined. >>> All responses must start with "The [community] repo is ..." >> >> The [community] repo is - in my non-dev, non-TU very humble opinion - a >> repository for packages that are perhaps not as widely used as those in >> [core] or those in [extra] but still used by enough users, so that it's >> reasonable to provide them in binary form, providing that there is a way to >> do so. I always figured that there is only so many devs and only so many >> packages a single dev can maintain, which leads to a limited number of >> packages in [core]/[extra]. That's why there are TUs and that's why there is >> [community] - so that the number of packages provided in binary form (by >> people that hopefully can be trusted) is larger. >> >> But what I actually wanted most to say was "amen" to your e-mail, Allan, I >> think you've summarized feelings of many people... >> >> Ond?ej >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Ond?ej Ku?era >> > > IMO all that but without your last argument. Quite some TUs are also > Devs at this very moment, so for the workload for them it doesn't > matter. Still most of the packages they maintain should stay in > community. Packages in community should be there because they are used > by quite some people, but not enough to have them in extra, or > packages that are a hype and have to prove that they are there to stay > before they are put into extra (bmpx in extra comes to mind which > development has stopped after like little over 1 year (?),just an > example to make clear what I mean). Alpha software (for example e17) > should also never be included in extra IMO (though some packages may > not follow this rule if needed). > > Hope it is clear enough, it's already late :p > > Ronald > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:22:01 -0500 > From: "Aaron Schaefer" <aaron(a)elasticdog.com> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Packages in Community and votes. > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" > <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: > <e36e8c790811101622oeb928f9q25e3b0d908ba49d7(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >> It's primarily disk space and IO load issues. > > I have questions, mostly meant to get people thinking about > alternatives and ramifications of any solutions... > > If the real issue is disk space and IO, what about the possibility of > a hardware upgrade? What about moving the largest packages to > unsupported (or something like arch-games) instead of basing it on > votes? It looks like eliminating just the top 10 largest community > packages would save 1.8 GB of space! See > http://rafb.net/p/Xfw0gh39.html for package sizes. What about putting > community on it's own server? What about fixing the AUR backend? What > about adding a CVS commit hook in the mean time to fix permissions on > upload instead of running a single cron job? > > If we make these proposed changes, how will they actually impact the > server and it's current problems? How will they effect Arch users? > What is the price of convenience that the community repo provides to > Arch users? Will there be a way to easily differentiate packages in > unsupported that are actually maintained by TUs? How can we reliably > tell what is popular? Download numbers, voting, pkgstats, etc. all > have their own issues and biases...is there a better way? What makes > the most sense in the long run when there are sure to be more TUs and > packages in community eventually? Should we worry about things that > are currently in community, or just new packages? > > My main point is that there are many options, and any solution that > gets acted upon needs to be based on hard evidence for improvement and > account for all consequences of that change rather than just basing it > on what sounds good. There has been a lot of rabble-rousing and not > much investigation into the underlying problems and proposed > solutions. > > -- > Aaron "ElasticDog" Schaefer > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:00:10 -0500 > From: Loui Chang <louipc.ist(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Packages in Community and votes. > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" > <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: <20081111010010.GK1071(a)lynn.lan> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 07:22:01PM -0500, Aaron Schaefer wrote: >> > It's primarily disk space and IO load issues. >> >> I have questions, mostly meant to get people thinking about >> alternatives and ramifications of any solutions... >> >> If the real issue is disk space and IO, what about the possibility of >> a hardware upgrade? What about moving the largest packages to >> unsupported (or something like arch-games) instead of basing it on >> votes? It looks like eliminating just the top 10 largest community >> packages would save 1.8 GB of space! See >> http://rafb.net/p/Xfw0gh39.html for package sizes. What about putting >> community on it's own server? What about fixing the AUR backend? What >> about adding a CVS commit hook in the mean time to fix permissions on >> upload instead of running a single cron job? >> >> If we make these proposed changes, how will they actually impact the >> server and it's current problems? How will they effect Arch users? >> What is the price of convenience that the community repo provides to >> Arch users? Will there be a way to easily differentiate packages in >> unsupported that are actually maintained by TUs? How can we reliably >> tell what is popular? Download numbers, voting, pkgstats, etc. all >> have their own issues and biases...is there a better way? What makes >> the most sense in the long run when there are sure to be more TUs and >> packages in community eventually? Should we worry about things that >> are currently in community, or just new packages? >> >> My main point is that there are many options, and any solution that >> gets acted upon needs to be based on hard evidence for improvement and >> account for all consequences of that change rather than just basing it >> on what sounds good. There has been a lot of rabble-rousing and not >> much investigation into the underlying problems and proposed >> solutions. > > I've said this already in discussions but I'll say this again. > Fixing the community back end, removing large packages, and removing > unused packages are all possible solutions to the problem. > > If we implement all the solutions, then we get an incremental > improvment. Each solution will build upon the others. We shouldn't only > implement one measure. We should implement ALL measures within reason. > > I only raised the issue of unused or barely used packages in Community > and pruning the repo. We should really be focusing on that before > diverting the discussion and delving into other areas. > > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Community > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:39:25 -0500 > From: "Aaron Schaefer" <aaron(a)elasticdog.com> > Subject: Re: [aur-general] Packages in Community and votes. > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" > <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> > Message-ID: > <e36e8c790811101739g413cc24dvb86c5fa00bc877ae(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Loui Chang <louipc.ist(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I only raised the issue of unused or barely used packages in Community >> and pruning the repo. We should really be focusing on that before >> diverting the discussion and delving into other areas. > > I know we've discussed this in IRC, but again my question is _why_ > should this be the focus? Does it give us the most improvement for the > least effort? Does it inconvenience users the least? Is it the > cheapest? By how much? Is it the fastest? Why? Why? Why? > > I'm open-minded about suggestions, but need something more substantial > to back them up than just saying "we should do this". Where are the > numbers to support the claim? Also, it seems as though the issue of > popularity/voting and the community repo might be altogether different > than the issue of server resources. Are we linking the two together > because of a twist of fate with timing and pkgstats coming to > fruition? > > > Aaron "ElasticDog" Schaefer > > p.s. my link for package sizes will disappear in a day, here's a > better one: http://omploader.org/vd3Vx > -- > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > aur-general mailing list > aur-general(a)archlinux.org > http://archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/aur-general > > > End of aur-general Digest, Vol 49, Issue 17 > ******************************************* >

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Re: [aur-general] [arch-general] Fwd: [arch-dev-public] pkgstats: first results
by w9ya 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

You guys asked for some numbers. Below I both answer Aaron and make a stab at how lousy our data really is. On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:44 PM, w9ya <w9ya(a)qrparci.net> wrote: > > If there is a problem with the servers and the load becuase of the > community > > repo, please let's talk about that and how the community can help. I was > > reacting to input that was already forming a basis for using a bot's > output > > to determine and regulate a TU's contribution. Further it was NOT clearly > > pointed out that this was being discussed because of a server/trunk load > > issue UNTIL it was challenged. > > Ok, let me put my entire reasoning quite plainly. > > You think "when the voting was added to the TU system the community > and TUs were SPECIFICALLY told that the voting system would NEVER be > used to make decisions about or demands concerning what any individual > TU decided to add" (which, I might add, I cannot find recorded > anywhere. Would you mind pointing me to some links, please?) > > I think that that's fine, but there is WAY too much garbage thrown > around for no reason other than "oh, I wanted to try this new app, and > put it into community! I stopped using it 3 minutes later, so I > orphaned it" (read: WillySilly). This is unacceptable on the official > archlinux server. It's not in the _spirit_ of the repo. We need SOME > form of metrics, SOME form of control, and we have one. > > So no matter what "TUs were SPECIFICALLY told", I think that's a load > of crap. You will always have people abusing a system. It is my > personally opinion that the voting should matter more to people. If > the voting system is flawed, propose another system. Don't claim "I > should be totally free to do whatever I want on your server" - that > reminds me too much of the Dave Chapelle skit where Rick James puts > his dirty shoes all over the couch. You are not Rick James. I am really trying to understand why you insist on using such limiting an self-depreciating launguage and so forth. I guess to make a point. I wonder about how it reflects on you. In any event; Here are some specifics. There are 11,800 (approx.) registered users and yet the most popular package gets a mere 400 or so votes. Now this is an interesting number as it both represents close to 90 % of the eligible voters AND only 3-4% of the REGISTERED users !! How is this so ? Well, only 500 or so users have downloaded the aurvote package. Further, and this is EQUALLY important to consider, a user can download and NOT be registered at all !! In other words 3 votes can represent a large number (several hundred users). If 3 votes represents many hundreds of users, is having only 2 votes, and let's say a potential of 60 - 150 ACTUAL users ,not a good enough reason to maintain a binary package ? I could go on, but you should be able to understand that before the voting system CAN be used for a metric, it has to reasonably be able to used as such. The current system simply cannot be used as such because the numbers have NO MEANING because they represent nothing of value. Do three votes mean 300 users, or only 10 ? Since we cannot pint to download data, and correlate it to those who(m) vote, and whether those that vote are the most focused users or that they represent the average user, or some other sort of user, you have NOTHING real that can be taken away form the number of votes. Further it should be noted that IF the problem is storage/cpu/networking resources then doing this accomplishes merely a temporary solution, and one that comes with a serious cost that I have touched upon earlier today. I suggest that we look at ways to have a on-going fund raising program to allow for proper resources for the "community" system. *Nothing* I have said above is either new or something that hasn't been said earlier today on one form or another. Yet a proposal has been offered, and ONLY this one proposal has had your support so far today. If you are worried about server resources as an issue Aaron, please let us offer other solutions to you, after all a good fundraising effort was NOT something I saw you get behind or discuss so far, so I am left to wonder if you would support it ? Best regards; Bob Finch P.S... The emails for the TU voting system discussion should be extant for you to view, although I say "should be" in as much as there have been some issues with users, passwords, and presumably other email list storage over the past few years going "south", so to speak. And as you suggest above, your input on this is based on the needs of the future and in previous emails you have declared that that was history, and "stupid: to be discussing as it was "regressive". Of course I disagree with this assessment as history can tell us not only what was promised, but what the reasons are behind previous discussions and courses of action. To be blunt, I also reject the idea that looking backwards is "regressive: and forward is "progressive". As any dictator from the 20th century has ALWAYS done NEW "regressive" things, things called regressive in that such thngs take away prerogatives from the public, all in the guise of "improvement". The results are ephemeral at best, and yes you fell into a trap of using the same language they used, Ala; "progressive".

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Re: [aur-general] Packages in Community and votes.
by Daenyth Blank 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

I really don't see a vote thing as a requirement. Consider it a strong suggestion, one that the maintainer is able to break at his or her discretion. Bfinch I think you are overreacting a ton to this.

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[aur-general] Courtesy when moving packages to community
by Allan McRae 10 Nov '08

10 Nov '08

Hi TUs, Following this post on the forums (http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=447186) I would like to remind people that it is good etiquette to let the maintainer of a package in the AUR know when you are moving their package to [community]. Either a direct email, or a nice thank you for their work as an AUR comment. Allan

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[aur-general] Please delete bash_completion_lib
by Henning Garus 09 Nov '08

09 Nov '08

Hi, my package bash_completion_lib is broken and doesnt work like I thought it would, can someone delete it from AUR? Furthermore, while browsing the AUR I stumbled upon the following packages: eclipse-bin: This should be obsolete, now eclipse in extra is the binary version from the eclipse site. eclipse-kde: upstream looks pretty dead. thanks in advance

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[aur-general] TU Application - Ghost1227
by Daniel J Griffiths 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

Hello again. For those of you who missed my greetings email, my name is Dan Griffiths and I am a 26-year-old independent contractor in Delaware, US. I have been using one form of *NIX or another for most of my life, wandering through MINIX, RedHat, Mandrake, Slackware, Debian, Gentoo and even two home made distros before finally finding Arch about a year ago. I instantly fell in love with Arch and haven't looked back once. I am currently maintaining 32 packages in the AUR, including one of my own (co-written) scripts. I go by the name Ghost1227 on the bugtracker, AUR, Wiki and on IRC. I have spent the last year getting to know Arch and learning from (as well as trying to assist) the community as a whole, and would now appreciate the opportunity to give something back to that community. Loui Chang (Louipc) has offered to sponsor me, and for that he has my thanks. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Dan Griffiths, aka Ghost1227 Apologies if this posts twice, I'm having issues with my email atm...

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[aur-general] disown http-replicator
by Jens 08 Nov '08

08 Nov '08

Hello list, Could somebody please orphan http-replicator? The maintainer isn't responding, and there is a new (although alpha) version of the package which is modular and fixes several fairly important issues when handling ftp transfers. Kind Regards, jensp

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[aur-general] Fwd: Stolen material
by Aaron "Hussein" Griffin 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

Hey guys, I just got the email below and want to take this opportunity to point a few things out: Licenses are important. If a project has no license that DOES NOT mean you are able to redistribute it by adding a file that says "Free to use". Just because it is in the AUR doesn't mean we are in the clear. That said, I believe this email is a little silly for three reasons: a) Nothing there is stolen. It is a PKGBUILD. If it is illegal to redistribute the source, then the end user is liable (something we DON'T want). b) The original tarball no longer exists. c) I have seen no proof of copyright. Still, I do want to take this opportunity to point out that we NEED to be more careful here. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Richard Northcott <richard(a)enfour.co.jp> Date: Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:03 AM Subject: Stolen material To: aaron(a)archlinux.org, jvinet(a)zeroflux.org This is stolen copyrighted material. Please remove. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/stardict-longman/ Richard Northcott Enfour,Inc. Tokyo

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Re: [aur-general] AUR milestone passed
by Loui Chang 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 03:49:44PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > We have just passed 10,000 packages in the AUR (unsupported part). > > Allan It's over nine thousand!

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[aur-general] Gnu/GLOBAL 5.7.3 version
by zhengyi 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

Hi, I found the GLOBAL 5.7.3 in GNU. Would you please update your aur ? In the attachment, my PKGBUILD is added. It _maybe_ works, I'm a newbie of this software, and reading doc now. I alwayse don't know the docs policy of Arch. Must I delete docs of a package? Or to build another package only for docs ? Thanks for your PKGBUILD. # Author: timlee tl1234562004.at.yahoo.com> # Contributor: Philipp Robbel robbel(a)gmail.com> # Zhengy Goodme goodmenzy(a)gmail.com> pkgname=global pkgver=5.7.3 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="A source code tag system" arch=(i686 x86_64) url="http://www.gnu.org/software/global/" license=('GPL') depends=() backup=('etc/gtags.conf') source=(ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/$pkgname/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz) md5sums=('e975983619bae02b63ffc3aae1a645b8') build() { cd $startdir/src/$pkgname-$pkgver ./configure --prefix=$startdir/pkg/usr # here is the docs. # It seems necessary to creat a global-doc pkg instead make pdf html || return 1 make install-info || return 1 install -d $startdir/pkg/usr/share/gtags install -d $startdir/pkg/usr/share/gtags/global.html install -m644 -D doc/global.pdf $startdir/pkg/usr/share/gtags/ install -m644 -D doc/global.html/* $startdir/pkg/usr/share/gtags/global.html/ # compile and install make || return 1 make install # copy gtags.conf and apply patch mkdir -p $startdir/pkg/etc cp $startdir/pkg/usr/share/gtags/gtags.conf $startdir/pkg/etc # symbolic link to gtags.el mkdir -p $startdir/pkg/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp ln -s /usr/share/gtags/gtags.el $startdir/pkg/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gtags.el }

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[aur-general] AUR milestone passed
by Allan McRae 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

We have just passed 10,000 packages in the AUR (unsupported part). Allan

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[aur-general] Integrity Check
by Andrea Scarpino 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

Hi TUs, last check has been made a month ago. Please fix your packages. Regards =================== = Integrity Check = =================== Performing integrity checks... ==> parsing pkgbuilds ==> checking mismatches ==> checking archs ==> checking dependencies ==> checking makedepends ==> checking for circular dependencies Duplicate PKGBUILDs --------------------- extra/squirrelmail vs. community/network/squirrelmail Missing Dependencies ---------------------- flumotion --> 'twisted-web' gg2 --> 'arts' qbittorrent --> 'boost<1.35' eclipse-ve --> 'eclipse<3.3' Missing Makedepends --------------------- perl-critic --> 'perl-devel-stacktrace>=0.17' gensplash --> 'klibc-beyond' Summary --------- Missing PKGBUILDs: 0 Invalid PKGBUILDs: 0 Mismatching PKGBUILD names: 0 Duplicate PKGBUILDs: 1 Invalid archs: 0 Missing (make)dependencies: 6 Repo hierarchy problems: 0 Circular dependencies: 0 -- Andrea `BaSh` Scarpino Arch Linux Trusted User Linux User: #430842

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[aur-general] Support for Sierra Wireless AirCard 881
by Amanai 07 Nov '08

07 Nov '08

Need some help Support Sierra Wireless AirCard 881? The Sierra Wireless AirCard 881 provides enhanced mobile broadband performance to keep you connected with access to email, the Internet, and business applications while on the go. The Sierra Wireless AirCard 881 provides the latest technology based upon the global standard for wireless - GSM. Best yet, the Sierra Wireless AirCard 881 works seamlessly across AT&T's 3G BroadbandConnect and EDGE networks providing you the perfect combination of performance and coverage. The AirCard 881 is simple to set-up and use so that you can stay connected whether traveling across town, the U.S., or the world. The application and howto can be found here. The drivers provided in the Download section below are freeware; you can redistribute them and/or modify them under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation. http://www.sierrawireless.com/faq/ShowFAQ.aspx?ID=607 What do I have to Install for Archlinux, to get my card run? Is there any application supported by Archlinux for easy Install via "pacman -S x..." ? Is it possible that a Archlinux developer can maintaining this application? I can't find any Infos at archlinux.org , no Wiki, no Hardware Info.

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[aur-general] LXR -- Linux Cross Reference
by zhengyi 05 Nov '08

05 Nov '08

Hi, I fight for LXR this weekend. And the final result works! The AUR is here: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?O=0&L=0&C=0&K=lxr-cvs&SeB=nd&SB=n&SO=… Some words must be said: 1) This package is not based on the original source code. There are bugs in the original codes. So I copy the codes from a Debian package. 2) This package will not download Any source. In addition to PKGBUILD, one must download lxr-cvs-0.9.5.tar.gz from the AUR dir. 3) You should read the readme file in /usr/share/docs/lxr-cvs/examples before you use the package. 4) I'm not happy to maintain this AUR, because I'm not an expert of Apache+MySQL+Perl+CGI+ ...... If anyone wants to adopt it, I'll give it to you gladly. 5) Thanks for Debian group! 6) I don't think it is necessary to develop LXR in the future. LXRNG --- LXR next generation, is on it's way. I suggest those who are enthusiasm to contribut to LXR should develop an AUR of LXRNG.

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Re: [aur-general] LXR -- Linux Cross Reference
by zhengyi 04 Nov '08

04 Nov '08

Well Done! Now, I have no time and energy to help you with LXRNG. What I want to say is that in lxr, there are some errors among the huge database. Some source code file is not indexed correctly. I wish LXRNG will fix those bugs. By the way, if you encountered some errors, check the same package in other disto is a better way than hack the source by yourself. Good luck!

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Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ghost1227
by Loui Chang 04 Nov '08

04 Nov '08

On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 12:10:54AM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > I'll vote for you if you stop top-posting. :) > > No, seriously... Yeah I was about to say something about that hah!

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[aur-general] absence
by Allan McRae 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

Hey all, I will be traveling for work from Wed 5th to Fri 14th of November. I should have internet access during that time so I will be checking emails but doubt I will have time for anything else. Cheers, Allan

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[aur-general] openexr so-name bump
by Pierre Schmitz 03 Nov '08

03 Nov '08

Hey everybody, the next days (just after python-2.6 will hit extra) I will push a new release of openexr. The following packages will/might need a rebuild: cinelerra-cv qtpfsgui Thanks, Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz Clemens-August-Straße 76 53115 Bonn Telefon 0228 9716608 Mobil 0160 95269831 Jabber pierre(a)jabber.archlinux.de WWW http://www.archlinux.de

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[aur-general] python 2.6 moving to extra
by Allan McRae 01 Nov '08

01 Nov '08

Hi all, I am moving python-2.6 and the associated rebuilds to [extra]. Allan

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[aur-general] missing "arch" in core, community, extra
by Yura Siamashka 31 Oct '08

31 Oct '08

Hi The official PKGBUILDs in core, extra, community often don't contain "arch" variable. Of course they can't be build with simple makepkg (missing arch error). I have read Arch Packaging Standards and find no mention about a situation where omiting "arch" variable is legal. Am I missing something or these official PKGBUILDS just broken? Here is list of such packages: gscanbus xmahjongg ltrace fortune-mod-osfortune fortune-mod-subversion lincity transset nant libcroco audiofile aspell-fi libdmx xsmbrowser libsidplay gforth mplayer-skins fortune-mod-matrix festival-don user-mode-linux icmake festival-awb-arctic fortune-mod-jargon help2man scrot aspell-pt fortune-mod-friends barcode aspell-de trm gtksourceview-sharp-2.0 lha fortune-mod-starwars aspell-el fortune-mod-xfiles cd-discid fortune-mod-calvin xpp ccmalloc feh glsof libnet festival-kallpc16k wmix ed2k-gtk-gui fortune-mod-zx-error terminatorx id3v2 aspell-es scsh xbl fortune-mod-humorix beep fortune-mod-bond selectwm setserial gcal libid3tag djbdns mp3splt xbill gtkglarea festival-rablpc16k speedcrunch words abcde antiword gimageview libmusepack xvattr netkit-tftp gfpoken cgoban aspell-en gpart aiksaurus fortune-mod-scc fping camsource acct xpenguins_themes mpage speedtouch rep-gtk ascii fortune-mod-smac fortune-mod-chalkboard libmemcache fortune-mod-futurama aspell-nl ipvsadm xorg-xsm xorg-fonts-alias fortune-mod-oneliners unionfs-utils smtpprox cowsay fortune-mod-fgump fluxter fortune-mod-prog-style libmath++ glhack xbitmaps recode acpi cssed moon-lander fortune-mod-taow i8kmon gif2png netkit-bsd-finger penguin-command libots artwiz-fonts fortune-mod-shlomif-fav achessclock fortune-mod-kernelcookies ksymoops randline pdksh gift-fasttrack checkpassword fortune-mod-codehappy tsocks fortune-mod-bofh-excuses figlet dailystrips cvsps pinball xboard fortune-mod-buffy gimp-print-lprng libxmi gdome2 tpb fortune-mod-hayward libifp tango-icon-theme-extras wipe fortune-mod-tao latex2html stow xalf root-tail i8kutils lesstifextensions fssos-nsvs sonypid aspell-ru yodl tvtime nhc98 libxkbui fortune-mod-shlomif vnc transfig gozer giblib emovix-codecs ucspi-tcp windowmaker-extra aspell-fr time fortune-mod-homer ices fortune-mod-hitchhiker bmp-wma aspell-it dbh ucspi-unix tuxpuck rcs emelfm daemontools netkit-rsh fortune-mod-discworld libxxf86misc ifplugd flite dansguardian ms-sys fortune-mod-dune-quotes mp3wrap libogg fortune-mod-romeojuliet ddcxinfo-arch gmencoder fortune-mod-osho fortune-mod-joel-on-software The script used to detect these packages is attached to this mail. -- Yura Siamashka <yurand2(a)gmail.com>

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[aur-general] Reffering to a Package Version in PKGBUILD
by Christian Scharkus 31 Oct '08

31 Oct '08

I've got a problem with xine-lib crying for ffmpeg>=20080715. I have ffmpeg-svn installed and this fullfilled the requirement. But even if I write something like presents=('ffmpeg' 'ffmpeg>=20081031') into my PKGBUILD the error occure again and again. A dynamic Date as mentioned in the comments of ffmpeg-svn (something like date +%Y%m%d would be nice). Thank you Raubkopierer

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[aur-general] python2.6 rebuilds
by Allan McRae 31 Oct '08

31 Oct '08

Hi TUs, I intend to move python-2.6 and the associated rebuilds this Saturday. This requires a few, but not all, packages requiring python to be rebuilt. It would be good if everyone could check their python based packages and be ready for this. Cheers, Allan

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[aur-general] xautomation package
by Christian Scharkus 31 Oct '08

31 Oct '08

Hello everybody. The current version of the package xautomation at the AUR is outdated the maintainer xcsd seems to be careless about it. The package was submitted about October 2006 and the reffered source is from April 2004. I would like to replace it with this one: # Contributor: raubkopierer <mail[dot]sensenmann[at]gmail[dot]com> pkgname=xautomation pkgver=1.02 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc="Controls X from the command line for scripts, and do \"visual scraping\" to find things on the screen." url="http://hoopajoo.net/projects/xautomation.html" arch=('i686' 'x86_64') license="GPL" depends=() source=(http://hoopajoo.net/static/projects/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.gz) md5sums=('523198135f7cf7a5324189aef20ac48d') build() { cd $startdir/src/$pkgname-$pkgver ./configure --prefix=/usr make || return 1 make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install } Greetings humans ;)

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[aur-general] Disown Merkaartor package
by Michael Kanis 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

Hello, the merkaartor package in AUR is outdated. The maintainer pfreire doesn't respond to the Out-Of-Date flag, comment and e-mail. Many of his other packages are also out of date. Could you please disown the package? I would like to maintain it in the future. Michael

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[aur-general] dropping gcin
by Andreas Radke 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

we're having gcin (Chinese input method) orphaned for a very long time and i guess no developer is interested in maintaining it or even able to set it up well. we have one or more outstanding bugs for a long time i cannot confirm or fix. i think we should leave the maintenance up to the community. they will do it far better. if no TU wants to take it i'd like to move it to unsupported. objections? -Andy

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[aur-general] Duplicate packages - update
by Ghost1227 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

Upon further review, Petr_Bambusek has asked that plasmoid-weather 0.4-1 be deleted. His request is listed under the comments for the aforementioned package.

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[aur-general] Broken package (lordsawar)
by rabyte 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

The package lordsawar is affected by the "can't create dir" bug. Could some TU fix it, please? Thanks :-) -- Follow The White Rabyte . . .

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[aur-general] TU Inactivity angvp
by Angel Velásquez 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

Hi I'm sad/ashamed to say this, but since a heavy workload and some issues coming into my life,... I've to go inactive at least by a month (or I hope a couple of weeks), I am planning to finish all my pending work (in job), then return and re-organize my time. I hope you all can maintain my packages, grab them if you want, or just update them. Thanks. P.S: I will be online, just busy.. so anything you need, do me a ping, so i will answer (not as quickly as always of course) -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Linux Counter: #359909 Arch Linux Trusted User

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Re: [aur-general] [request]: LXR -- Linux Cross Reference
by zhengyi 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

Hi, I must tell you that there is a "small" bug in the lxr, if you choose mysql as the DB. mysql taken "release" as it's keyword( I guess ), so in the file initdb-mysql, you will encounter syntax error. Because that file use 'release' as a table column. I've tried to rename it to something else, but the perl scripts of LXR complain for sql syntax error. If you familiar with perl+mysql, I guess that will not take you much time. Good luck! By the way: I suggest you to take a small scale source code package as the testing object. If you follow some docs from google, it will parse the Linux kernel code. It is a time-consuming works!

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[aur-general] [request]: LXR -- Linux Cross Reference
by zhengyi 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

Hi, LXR seems a good tool to review software code. I tried to setup it, but failed. It needs apache mysql perl swish and so on. I'm not an expert of Mysql, and encounter something wrong while config it. There seems no aur package of it. Who can creat an AUR ? Thanks!

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[aur-general] Duplicate packages in AUR
by Ghost1227 30 Oct '08

30 Oct '08

It was recently pointed out in #archlinux that there is a package in AUR which is duplicated and neither copy works, both trying to pull the source from mediafire. plasmoid-weather 0.4-1 <http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19532> posted by Petr_Bambusek and weather-plasmoid 0.4-1 <http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18819> posted by Diestelhenne Both maintainers have been notified of this issue, but perhaps something should be done about this duplicity?

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[aur-general] abs and CURRENT
by Abhishek Dasgupta 29 Oct '08

29 Oct '08

Currently, abs downloads only stuff which is tagged CURRENT, this has a result of not giving the latest PKGBUILD in some cases; especially when a change has been made that does not change the corresponding binary, but only metadata like the URL and source links. Would it cause a problem if changes like these are tagged CURRENT? I could use SVN to retrieve the packages, but that would be a greater load on the servers. -- Abhishek Dasgupta

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Re: [aur-general] lib32 packages in [community]
by Abhishek Dasgupta 28 Oct '08

28 Oct '08

!!!! And I'd just given a pacman -Syu ! Good thing it didn't complete; pacman would've refused to install them anyway, right? I've a i686 chroot, and inadvertently copied the mirrorlist from the chroot to here...

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[aur-general] lib32 packages in [community]
by Abhishek Dasgupta 28 Oct '08

28 Oct '08

Hi, I noticed a strange thing: lib32 PKGBUILDs are in the tree but pacman -Ss lib32 turns up nothing. This is on a 64bit system, so I would expect the lib32 packages to be there. I checked with a few other [community] packages and they turn up on a pacman -Ss. I've attached my mirrorlist. -- Abhishek Dasgupta <http://abhidg.mine.nu> GPG 67972DOF pgp.mit.edu

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[aur-general] funny-manpages and asr-manpages
by Arkham 26 Oct '08

26 Oct '08

Hello, these two packages ( http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3759 and http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=3760 ) need to be updated but the original author doesn't reply to my emails. Moreover, the PKGBUILDs have a really horrible indentation. Could someone please orphan them so that I can adopt?

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[aur-general] autoscan package
by Cabbage 26 Oct '08

26 Oct '08

Package autoscan ( http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7009 ) is out-of-date as of January 2008. The author has not updated and the PKGBUILD does not work due to the outdated source referenced in the PKGBUILD. Could someone orphan it so that it may be worked on by someone else?

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[aur-general] Missing Packages
by aur-notify＠archlinux.org 26 Oct '08

26 Oct '08

Missing x86_64 Packages: No new package supplied for xdotool 20080720-5! -- This is an automated message. If you wish to stop receiving it twice a day, fix the package(s).

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[aur-general] info files
by Jiyunatori 24 Oct '08

24 Oct '08

Hi there. jxy is asking me on AUR if I can include the info file of the emacs-org-mode package. however, an old version of org-mode is now shipped with emacs, thus installing some info files within /usr/share/info. Is there a policy to address this problem ? Should I overwrite the info files from emacs (bad idea I guess) Should I rename the info file ? Should I just avoid installing the file, as I'm doing now ? Jiyunatori

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[aur-general] Conflict, what should I do?
by Roberto Alsina 24 Oct '08

24 Oct '08

Hello, I package uniconvertor, and it has a conflict with another package called yudit. Basically, both try to create /usr/bin/uniconv and the uniconvs are completely different programs. What's the recommended procedure here? -- ("\''/").__..-''"`-. . Roberto Alsina `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-._.`) KDE Developer (MFCH) (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._`. " -.-' http://lateral.netmanagers.com.ar _..`-'_..-_/ /-'_.' The 6,855th most popular site of Slovenia (l)-'' ((i).' ((!.' according to alexa.com (27/5/2007) Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. --Brian W. Kernighan

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[aur-general] Greetings - Ghost1227
by Ghost 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

My name is Dan Griffiths and I am a 26-year-old independent contractor in Delaware, US. I have been using one form of *NIX or another for most of my life, wandering through MINIX, RedHat, Mandrake, Slackware, Debian, Gentoo and even two home made distros before finally finding Arch about a year ago. I instantly fell in love with Arch and haven't looked back once. I am currently maintaining 32 packages in the AUR, including one of my own (co-written) scripts. I go by the name Ghost1227 on the bugtracker, AUR, Wiki and on IRC. Simply put, I'm eternally grateful for the work others have put into making this such an incredible distribution and would now like to give something back to that community. I understand that at the moment there has been a bit of an influx of new TUs and as such some of you may (understandable) want to wait a while before adding anyone new to the list. As such, I thought I should introduce myself and give you all a chance to get to know me and take a look at my work without needing an immediate response. Take your time to get comfortable with the new additions, and when you are ready (and I have found a sponsor), I will still be waiting. Thank you all for your indulgence in my little rant and I hope to see you all around the community! Dan Griffiths, aka Ghost1227 ____________________________________________________________ GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more!

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[aur-general] Colin Pitrat is out of the office.
by Colin Pitrat 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

I will be out of the office starting 23/10/2008 and will not return until 28/10/2008. I will respond to your message when I return.

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Re: [aur-general] Drop madwifi-injection
by w9ya 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

I do use some of the older madwifi stuff. Um, can you be specific as to the EXACT *and* correct (full) names of the files you are talking about ? TIA Bob Finch On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:27 AM, Daenyth Blank <daenyth(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:23, Daenyth Blank <daenyth%2Barch(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Sorry, I had gotten the package name wrong. If you search AUR for >> madwifi there are actually several. >> > > OK, I delete madwifi-aircrack and I posted a comment on the other two > patched madwifi drivers. When I get a reply or in one week I will > delete those as well. >

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[aur-general] Drop madwifi-injection
by Daenyth Blank 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

I wanted to get people's opinions before I acted on this. The madwifi-injection package is outdated, and from several reports, the core madwifi drivers now provide this. Is there any reason to keep the package on AUR, or should I just delete it?

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[aur-general] opencv orphaning request
by Артем Смирнов 23 Oct '08

23 Oct '08

Hi, please orphan opencv and opencv-cvs which don't updated since 2006. I use this library now and can maintain this PKGBUILDs. Thanks. -- Artyom

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[aur-general] TU request
by Edward Tjörnhammar 22 Oct '08

22 Oct '08

Hello archers! I'm likely a new face to all of you but non the less applying for the role of TU. My name is Edward Tjörnhammar, is 26 and use Archlinux extensively both private and professionally. Two of the things which appeals me the most are that it never gets in your face and that the package system is pretty much crystal. I have been using GNU/Linux in some form, and no specific order, as Gentoo/Arch/Slax/Debian/Slackware since 2001. I studied CS at RIT (kth.se) in Stockholm where my specialization was(and is) in parallel and distributed systems. I work as a research engineer at the swedish defence research agency (foi.se) at information systems at the department of informatics. Before that I worked as a developer at a tactical dogfight simulator, which ran on IRIX machines. Programming and its facets is my main hobby and I, as such, have a working knowledge of many different languages/systems. I recently contributed a package 'inn' which I intend to continue working on. The package was added to [community] so I will continue with as inn-orig in AUR, user xhemi. If I were to become TU I believe that I can help to improve any number of packages in need of love but would continue with 'inn'. My sponsor is Sergej Pupykin. -- Edward Tjörnhammar

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[aur-general] Duplicate Package Names
by Jud 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

Too many recent packages have been named the same as the "official package", this could easily get out of hand, what can be done about it? Discussion Points: - better education and parenting? - better message on AUR page? - code to detect package name and disallow/delete package? - hit uploader with big stick? - faster updates of "offical" Repo packages?

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[aur-general] TU Vote: foutrelis
by Daenyth Blank 21 Oct '08

21 Oct '08

Hi everyone, This begins the 7 day voting period for the addition of foutrelis as a TU. Please don't forget to vote. The discussion thread can be found at: http://archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2008-October/008751.html You can vote using the web interface. Good luck! --Daenyth

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[aur-general] pidgin-mini
by Henri Häkkinen 20 Oct '08

20 Oct '08

Hello, My pidgin-mini AUR package was marked as out-of-date by BaSh, but the user did not specify any reason for it. I wonder, what seems to be wrong with it? http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=20712 -- Henri 'henux' Häkkinen http://henux.nor.fi

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Re: [aur-general] what happened to 'My statistics'?
by Loui 19 Oct '08

19 Oct '08

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 07:24:28AM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: > Roman Kyrylych wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Just took a look at AUR now, and got scared: >> My Statistics >> Packages in unsupported 0 >> Out-of-date 5 >> >> but then searched for packages with me as maintainer, and found lots of them. >> And there are definetely more than 5 out-of-date packages. >> Any ideas on this? >> >> >> P.S.: I'm sorry for inactivity, I hope to update lots of packages >> during next week >> (I took a vacation to spend time on Arch). >> > > Is it this bug: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11561 ? Aye it be that bug. Roman you don't have any packages in unsupported. They're all in community. And indeed 5 are outdated. Cheers!

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[aur-general] what happened to 'My statistics'?
by Roman Kyrylych 18 Oct '08

18 Oct '08

Hi! Just took a look at AUR now, and got scared: My Statistics Packages in unsupported 0 Out-of-date 5 but then searched for packages with me as maintainer, and found lots of them. And there are definetely more than 5 out-of-date packages. Any ideas on this? P.S.: I'm sorry for inactivity, I hope to update lots of packages during next week (I took a vacation to spend time on Arch). -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

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[aur-general] BugDay (was: AUR CleanUp Day v2)
by DaNiMoTh 18 Oct '08

18 Oct '08

2008/10/7 stefan-husmann(a)t-online.de <stefan-husmann(a)t-online.de>: [cut] > > Hello, > > I dislike the idea of a bug day. We have well defined bugtracking > interfaces (Community Bugtracker or AUR comment-pages). This is a short description of a BugDay, maybe you misspelled it :) ( It isn't a day where we search a bug, but where we search a solutions for they :D ) http://www.archlinux.org/news/373/ What do Roman and who manage bugtracker think? PS: I use 'we search' because I was accepted as a ArchLinuxPPC dev.. I'm still running :D

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[aur-general] Orphaned clutter packages
by Michael Kanis 17 Oct '08

17 Oct '08

Hi, the packages clutter-cairo, clutter-gtk and python-clutter are out-of-date and orphaned. I'd like to adopt and update them. How do I do this? Michael

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[aur-general] ntfs-3g PKGBUILD - please delete
by Jud 16 Oct '08

16 Oct '08

Hi all, Someone has posted an ntfs-3g PKGBUILD, could the powers-to-be please delete this package. Also, I would like to draw you attention to this thread please [1]. Thanks for all your great work. [1] http://archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2008-September/008695.html

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[aur-general] Mach64 DRI PkgBuilds
by ben buckley 16 Oct '08

16 Oct '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 hey all, i've whipped up PKGBUILDs to enable dri with the ati mach64 chipset. i'd like to contribute them. thing is, there's already one there: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17939 however, that PKGBUILD doesn't install the recompiled libdrm. i've contacted the author, with no response. i don't want to tread on anyone's toes, but i would like to contribute back to arch in some small way. what's the proper protocol here? thnx, b -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkj2vU8ACgkQl+rf7LmTT/i2KwCdG5cz9GueIqxATMim+rddy5UX A/kAn2FwkMD4x5zwsS+jbx8lNOI7SWLm =8akU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[aur-general] squirrelmail duplicate
by Xavier 15 Oct '08

15 Oct '08

squirrelmail exists in both extra (1.5.2cvs-7) and community (1.4.16-2). Is this normal? If both versions are needed, maybe the first package should be renamed to squirrelmail-cvs or similar.

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[aur-general] old tarball recovery?
by Mads Michelsen 15 Oct '08

15 Oct '08

Feeling incredibly daft about this... I adjusted the PKGBUILD for a module i maintain and uploaded it straight away after buildng succesfully. It thus overwrote the old tarball which contained the PKGBUILD plus a patch and an install script. In a stroke of brilliance I then proceeded to delete my local build files and try the new PKGBUILD via yaourt.... Needless to say it doesn't work. This is about as stupid as it gets. I'm having photorec trying to recover the local files but I'm not particularly hopeful. Any chance of recovery on the server? The package is fsaa1655g. - Chochem

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Re: [aur-general] "Can't create directory" bug and inaccessible files
by rabyte 15 Oct '08

15 Oct '08

It's several: eduke32-clean, adonthell-wastesedge, alephone, chocolate-doom-svn, probably others... I just updated the darkplaces package, and guess what? It worked! Probably because I created the tgz file using my own "maketar" script (uses standard tar instead of bsdtar btw). So I guess the error really is related to a bug in makepkg. -- Follow The White Rabyte . . .

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[aur-general] package removal request
by Henri Häkkinen 15 Oct '08

15 Oct '08

Hello, My cli-google (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=20696) can be removed from the AUR as I have uploaded the project into git repository and reposted it as cli-google-git package. -- Henri Häkkinen

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Re: [aur-general] my first AUR contribution
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 14 Oct '08

14 Oct '08

-----Original Message----- > Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:47:16 +0200 > Subject: [aur-general] my first AUR contribution > From: "Henri Häkkinen" > To: aur-general(a)archlinux.org > Hello all > > I'm making my first AUR contribution and I would like to get > feedback on this before I will upload it. > > I'm making a minimal version of the popular IM client > 'pidgin'. This will be called 'pidgin-mini' and its > somewhat similar to 'pidgin-light'. pidgin-mini will have all > additional features removed to the bare minium, including development > header files, pkgconfig and aclocal scripts. You can review the > package file at: > > http://nor.fi/~henrih/archlinux/pidgin-mini.tar.gz [1] > > -- > Henri 'henux' Häkkinen > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://nor.fi/~henrih/archlinux/pidgin-mini.tar.gz > Hello, welcome among us packagers. Your PKGBUILD shows me that you did read the packaging guidelines and recent advices. There have always be discussions about adding a package hat already has a counterpart in some official repo. Normally such packages should not go to AUR and will be deleted. On the other hand we have mplayer-nogui or such things. Maybe this package is another example from that rule. IMHO in packages with many different configure options to choose some of them and to leave ot others can be a contribution of its own. So I would say, go for it. But there my be other opinions. Regards Stefan

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Re: [aur-general] xhemi discussion (was: TU request)
by Sergej Pupykin 14 Oct '08

14 Oct '08

Hi, I want to sponsor Edward Tjörnhammar(xhemi). His packages have small issues such as backup lines or missing ' || return 1', but they are good. So I ask to start discussion. > I recently contributed a package 'inn' which I intend to continue working > on. The package was added to [community] so I will continue with as inn-orig > in AUR, user xhemi. If I were to become TU I believe that I can help to > improve any number of packages in need of love but would continue with > 'inn'. My sponsor is Sergej Pupykin. > > -- > Edward Tjörnhammar

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[aur-general] Remove gsambad
by Florian Pritz 14 Oct '08

14 Oct '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, someone please remove gsambad ( http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=6648 ) from the AUR because it has been renamed to gadmin-samba. Thanks Florian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJI9IwzAAoJEG0WVcFM4cE+r5UP/AwtiVLwAURvrCh1WeH3l1QW tNTRqPaJQrGQac+uyBsn4KQJ3nTGIqsoLenMIQpCcdjg6MZcVm4eNAaZx5j/jzRw k2CTXrhWqZwwBorkdGntr7rksq2ra9ToeZ5GlhieB2Ye+8ioVz0cA5tIHxnaP/ot 5nogF3G8BXuX6TWG8EX6HrutH7Syrx+uaV+aMMa3vXWlYroFcm5hHPACC5sd7H5A miIs/IaAH9DOEnCsGYoqYezlsVd3ldijlFmGjTp5yxd/iuJTCECOouAL+MwmIC3j nv7FHZ0Pspwr9LEW/9ZWZIXjG28Dv7InAtuEniEk9V+vaqj6WJhfHt7ZJTABZn5M WQg6eF+XJ9hR1FDrMCjjM2fFm/nIJMBRf2L5aoLbP2si6nXzHtQcY3fuN+3XewWE Bsv89u2KUrhXSghPt/8O5hfLLloxCto+se5fkiNxF7AM8CcJpxdxk8qo5dobaQS6 ryGAmSEcMcZE00TiEfwhfqCoBcKnz5IAmR483b8XOIFrPnMicKD5MsgoN8UpJ5Ny kyoNm21J6Xn4p5BeKu/hh7jYR6rKYzLjMVSROzwh4WZKmofxSG/VlGcHtQQBwoCZ PyoXih+qLWnWR8o4GnvM4W/WcC0x+Zl2OrO5hMBxI2YBAdEvG5YX0VDA1zNCa9h7 5KiOGH9cmZKuUttKk5q0 =cGxh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[aur-general] Phun - what's happend?
by Vitaliy Berdinskikh 14 Oct '08

14 Oct '08

Hi all, what's happend with Phun package? -- Sincerely yours, Vitaliy Berdinskikh (Виталий Бердинских)

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[aur-general] Remove from filesystem request
by Simon Lipp 13 Oct '08

13 Oct '08

Hello, Looks like two of my packages (scilab5 and scilab5-bin) are affected by http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/11187 (don't know why, however :/). As stated in the bug report, I added them to http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_CleanUp_Day , but looks like nobody looks it anymore :). Could someone delete them ? Thanks Simon

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[aur-general] my first AUR contribution
by Henri Häkkinen 13 Oct '08

13 Oct '08

Hello all I'm making my first AUR contribution and I would like to get feedback on this before I will upload it. I'm making a minimal version of the popular IM client 'pidgin'. This will be called 'pidgin-mini' and its somewhat similar to 'pidgin-light'. pidgin-mini will have all additional features removed to the bare minium, including development header files, pkgconfig and aclocal scripts. You can review the package file at: http://nor.fi/~henrih/archlinux/pidgin-mini.tar.gz -- Henri 'henux' Häkkinen

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[aur-general] the future of empathy, libtelepathy..
by M. Rawash 13 Oct '08

13 Oct '08

now that empathy/telepathy and their deps are officially part of gnome, shouldn't they be removed from AUR (assuming they get added to extra soon)? Regards M. Rawash (gwash)

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[aur-general] Orphaning request of znc package
by Mick＠ël 12 Oct '08

12 Oct '08

Hi, the znc package hasn't been updated for a while, and the maintainer's email is not working (Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: bas(a)it-core.org) Could you please orphan the package so I can update it ? Thanks

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[aur-general] Package removal requests (asdf-clisp, asdf-install-clis)p
by joyfulgirl 12 Oct '08

12 Oct '08

Hi, Would somebody mind removing asdf-clisp and asdf-install-clisp from AUR? I'm their former maintainer, and a couple of months ago uploaded packages more in line with other distros' Common Lisp package naming conventions. Currently (and for the past couple of months, as a transitional period), the old packages have just been PKGBUILDS that depend on the new ones and do nothing else. Thanks a lot, and sorry for making things difficult! -- If I Am Ever A Heroine... 49. If I am offered two explanations for a phenomenon, one that makes sense and the other a load of claptrap, I will accept the sensible one.

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[aur-general] Removal request: juploadr64
by Carl Mueller 11 Oct '08

11 Oct '08

Can someone remove this package from AUR? juploadr64 I'm the maintainer of juploadr, and I submitted juploadr64 before I knew how to combine both arches into a single package. Thanks, Carl

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[aur-general] Missing Packages
by aur-notify＠archlinux.org 11 Oct '08

11 Oct '08

Missing i686 Packages: No new package supplied for openoffice-sh 3.0.0rc4-1! -- This is an automated message. If you wish to stop receiving it twice a day, fix the package(s).

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[aur-general] Missing Packages
by aur-notify＠archlinux.org 10 Oct '08

10 Oct '08

Missing x86_64 Packages: No new package supplied for panda3d 1.5.3-1! -- This is an automated message. If you wish to stop receiving it twice a day, fix the package(s).

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[aur-general] Missing Packages
by aur-notify＠archlinux.org 10 Oct '08

10 Oct '08

Missing x86_64 Packages: No new package supplied for panda3d 1.5.3-1! -- This is an automated message. If you wish to stop receiving it twice a day, fix the package(s).

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Re: [aur-general] Where to put your name when you adopt an AUR package (was: TU Application)
by Henning Garus 09 Oct '08

09 Oct '08

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Evangelos Foutras <foutrelis(a)gmail.com> wrote: > stefan-husmann(a)t-online.de wrote: >>> >>> What should I add myself as, when adopting a package, if not using the >>> Maintainer tag? "Contributor" maybe? >>> >> >> Yes! > > Actually, I just read a wiki entry[1] on this which clears things up. > > # Maintainer: the maintainer responsible for this pkg in the official > repositories > # Contributor: the person who wrote the first PKGBUILD for this package > > So I shouldn't add myself at all to packages I adopt. :o > /me goes to update his adopted packages. > > ---------------- > [1] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ABS_PKGBUILD_Explained > It does make sense, at least to me, to have your name and email address in a PKGBUILD you currently maintain in AUR, even if you didn't create it. However, I don't think there is any policy about this. I have seen some "custom" tags, which I can't remember exactly and of course much misuse of the maintainer tag - I am guilty of that one myself. What one could do to prevent further misuse of the Maintainer tag would be introducing a new tag like AUR-Maintainer and put it in the wiki. Notice that this is just an example, I wouldn't be against calling this different. It wouldn't stop the "Maintainer Tag problem" all at once, but it might help reducing it.

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[aur-general] TU Application
by Evangelos Foutras 09 Oct '08

09 Oct '08

Hello, My name is Evangelos Foutras. I'm 20 years old and currently a student of Informatics at the University of Piraeus in Athens, Greece. I had my first taste of GNU/Linux a few years back with Mandrake 9.0 (if I remember correctly) that came with a magazine I bought. I didn't know much about computers back then and gave up quickly. Since then, I used Windows (2000 and then XP) pretty much until 2007. At that time I discovered Ubuntu and started messing around with it, setting my system to dual-boot XP and Ubuntu. I gradually increased the time spent on Ubuntu especially during the summer of the same year, and finally dumped Windows all together on Oct 20 2007. I've never looked back since. During this one and a half year, I've tried several distributions, including Fedora and Debian; they were alright. I really liked that Fedora shipped with very up-to-date software and I still use Debian for server environments. My first Arch installation was done this spring but for some reason I can't recall, I went back to Ubuntu the following day. My next Arch encounter I owe to Alex Cartwright, founder of TangoCMS[1]. He had recently switched to Arch himself and urged me to give it another try. This time I got to understand and love the Arch Way, so I didn't bounce. "Love at second sight", I guess. Currently, I maintain 8 packages in AUR. Two of them feature (crappy) software I've authored, two others are new contributions and the rest are orphans I've adopted. I'm somewhat experienced at C, Python, PHP and Bash, skills which have aided in handling issues that arise when packaging a piece of software. Let me say that I'm amazed at the quality of the distribution as a whole, and the tools that have been developed for it. The community is wonderful as well, composed of smart and skillful people who enjoy being of assistance to others. I'd like to get more involved in Arch and help wherever I can; therefore I'm applying for TUship. Daenyth has offered to be my sponsor and I sincerely thank him for that. :) Feel free to ask me any questions you might have. Kind regards, ------------ [1] http://www.tangocms.org/

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[aur-general] homepages not found
by Abhishek Dasgupta 09 Oct '08

09 Oct '08

Hi all, I wrote a script to find out the packages whose homepages cannot be found. An HTML version of this list is at: http://abhidg.mine.nu/arch/urlcheck-fail Most of this list comprises Perl packages, whose URL can be fixed (usually) by prefixing a ~ before the username, like: http://search.cpan.org/RHOOPER/HTTP-Lite to http://search.cpan.org/~RHOOPER/HTTP-Lite ------------------------------------------------------ # List of packages whose homepage # could not be spidered using the command: # wget --spider --tries=1 --timeout=30 $url # All results were then manually checked. # started: Thu Oct 9 05:29:34 GMT 2008 # finished: Thu Oct 9 07:07:07 GMT 2008 daemons/hula emulators/qemu-launcher games/blobwars games/chromium games/hex-a-hop gnome/gnome-ppp gnome/nautilus-audio-convert gnome/nautilus-share kde/kdvdauthorwizard kde/mtaskbar lib/net6 lib/obby lib/perl-algorithm-annotate lib/perl-algorithm-diff lib/perl-app-cli lib/perl-authen-sasl lib/perl-cgi lib/perl-cgi-session lib/perl-class-methodmaker lib/perl-color-calc lib/perl-convert-asn1 lib/perl-crypt-blowfish lib/perl-crypt-simple lib/perl-curses-ui-poe lib/perl-data-hierarchy lib/perl-data-structure-util lib/perl-datetime-event-ical lib/perl-datetime-event-recurrence lib/perl-datetime-format-ical lib/perl-dbd-sqlite2 lib/perl-dbi-shell lib/perl-file-path-expand lib/perl-file-type lib/perl-file-which lib/perl-finance-quote lib/perl-freezethaw lib/perl-graphics-colornames-www lib/perl-gssapi lib/perl-gtk2-trayicon lib/perl-html-highlight lib/perl-html-tagfilter lib/perl-html-template lib/perl-html-template-expr lib/perl-http-lite lib/perl-ical-parser lib/perl-io-tee lib/perl-ipc-shareable lib/perl-lingua-preferred lib/perl-mail-box-parser-c lib/perl-mail-transport-dbx lib/perl-math-base85 lib/perl-net-ipv4addr lib/perl-net-ipv6addr lib/perl-net-jabber lib/perl-net-subnets lib/perl-net-telnet lib/perl-net-xmpp lib/perl-object-multitype lib/perl-paranoid lib/perl-parse-plainconfig lib/perl-parse-yapp lib/perl-poe-component-client-dns lib/perl-poe-component-client-http lib/perl-poe-component-client-keepalive lib/perl-regexp-shellish lib/perl-string-crc32 lib/perl-svn-mirror lib/perl-term-animation lib/perl-term-progressbar lib/perl-term-readline lib/perl-test-differences lib/perl-text-charwidth lib/perl-text-diff lib/perl-text-markdown lib/perl-text-vfile-asdata lib/perl-tie-cphash lib/perl-time-format lib/perl-time-human lib/perl-tk-tablematrix lib/perl-www-curl lib/perl-x11-protocol lib/perl-xml-smart lib/perl-xml-stream lib/perlio-eol lib/perlio-via-dynamic lib/pykde lib/python-numarray lib/taglib-rcc lib32/lib32-libart-lgpl lib32/lib32-qt lib32/lib32-qt3 modules/xchat-systray-integration multimedia/gkrellmpc multimedia/gnomebaker multimedia/gtvg multimedia/kungfu multimedia/rexima network/ajaxterm network/ajaxterm-utf8-svn network/gproftpd network/sniffit office/addresses office/ec-fonts-mftraced office/gnuconcept office/gobby system/9base system/alunn system/pinfo system/shaman system/unshield x11/855resolution x11/magickthumbnail x11/terminus-font x11/ttf-inconsolata x11/ude x11/xmove -- Abhishek Dasgupta <http://abhidg.mine.nu> GPG 67972DOF pgp.mit.edu

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Re: [aur-general] Orphans in community part II
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 08 Oct '08

08 Oct '08

Hello, I had a look at Angel's list and that is what I found: dvd-slideshow 0.8.0-4 taken by me :) eclipse-mylyn 3.0.0-1 is already outdated (3.0.2 is out), two votes, can be moved to unsupported if noone wants it gambas 1.0.19-1 there also is release 2.8.2, which is stable. Why this one? glib2-docs 2.18.0-1 taken by sergej gtk2+extra 2.1.1-1 dependency for gpsim, maybe the maintainer wants to take it kdvdauthorwizard 1.4.6-4 ? ktechlab 0.3.6-1 depends on gpsim openlh-server 0.1-4 openlh-client is maintained opensips 1.4.2-4 taken by sergej qmc2 0.2.b4-1 ? qstardict 0.12.9-2 taken by sergej sarg 2.2.3.1-1 taken by sergej scilab 4.1.2-4 taken by sergej sofia-sip 1.12.7-1 taken by sergej telepathy-glib 0.7.10-1 ? wqy-bitmapfont 0.9.9-4 Is there any chinese-speaking TU around? wqy-zenhei 0.6.26-1 Is there any chinese-speaking TU around? xgl 0.0.1.20080407-1 does not build for me IMHO the wqy fonts should be preferably maintained by someone who at least has some basic knowledge of chinese language. If there is no TU, they should be moved to unsupported. Regards Stefan

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[aur-general] TU Vote: Imanol 'ornitorrincos' Celaya
by Ángel Velásquez 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

Hi TUs, The voting period for Imanol Celaya (a.k.a ornitorrincos) it's over. By my counts we have reached quorum and ornitorrincos is now a TU, so Congratulations, ornitorrincos!!. Now, please, follow the steps described here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/New_Trusted_User_Checklist Congrats and Welcome to the team!. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User (TU) http://www.angvp.com

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[aur-general] AUR CleanUp Day v2
by Ángel Velásquez 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

Hi all, This idea was originally sent in this thread: http://archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2008-May/007539.html At the end, we didn't decide a final day, but the work was done, so I propose another CleanUp Day following the model that we used the last time. http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_CleanUp_Day --> here you can obtain information and put suggestion, ideas, etc. What do you recommend to maintain a more efficient thread?, a post on the forum ? and what do you suggest for the Day that we will do the clean.?. Opinions are open!. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User (TU) http://www.angvp.com

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[aur-general] Orphans in community part II
by Ángel Velásquez 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

Hi fellas, there is a new list of packages which are orphans, many of them, could be dependences of other packages which are adopted, if this is the case, please TUs adopt all dependencies of their packages. The following list are the packages which i am talking about: dvd-slideshow 0.8.0-4 eclipse-mylyn 3.0.0-1 gambas 1.0.19-1 glib2-docs 2.18.0-1 gtk2+extra 2.1.1-1 kdvdauthorwizard 1.4.6-4 ktechlab 0.3.6-1 openlh-server 0.1-4 opensips 1.4.2-4 qmc2 0.2.b4-1 qstardict 0.12.9-2 sarg 2.2.3.1-1 scilab 4.1.2-4 sofia-sip 1.12.7-1 telepathy-glib 0.7.10-1 wqy-bitmapfont 0.9.9-4 wqy-zenhei 0.6.26-1 xgl 0.0.1.20080407-1 Many were maintained by DaNiMoTh, since his resign we adopt many of his packages, but the rest still orphans, please new TUs adopt some of them if you consider able to maintain it, else I want to propose an date for move these packages to unsupported. 21/10/2008 (two weeks) sounds good to me. Opinions are open. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User (TU) http://www.angvp.com

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[aur-general] libnetfilter_conntrack and conntrack-tools orphan request
by Alessandro Sagratini 07 Oct '08

07 Oct '08

Hi, I would like to adopt these packages form aur. They no longer updated from months and the actual maintainer is not responding to any mail... Could anyone orphan them? Thank you, Alessandro Sagratini _________________________________________________________________ Tutto il mondo MSN a portata di clic! http://toolbar.msn.com/overview.aspx?loc=it-it

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[aur-general] Apology
by Robert Emil Berge 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

Hello everybody, I write this to apologise for my sudden disappearance several months ago. There's really no excuse for a TU to do such a thing, and I wish I had been able to tell you before I went away. This is not an excuse, just me saying I'm sorry, and that you'll probably see me around a bit again. A short explanation. Don't read on if you're not interested :) My work and studies, which aren't computer related, was very demanding for a while, and I used my Linux hobby to run away and not get anything done. So, when my email configuration got destroyed, I used that as a chance to force myself to concentrate on my work. I just didn't re-configure and actually cut myself off from the internet for a few months. Things are much calmer now, and I appreciate using and experimenting with Arch Linux very much, so I have decided to re-connect. Robert Emil Berge (filoktetes)

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Re: [aur-general] Request to orphaning scummvm-svn
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

;; -----Original Message----- ;; Date:Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:04:25 +0200 ;; Subject: [aur-general] Request toorphaning scummvm-svn ;; From: Sebastian Hase<sebastian_hase(a)gmx.de> ;; To: aur-general(a)archlinux.org ;; Hi! ;; I would like to adopt the scummvm-svn package inAUR. It was not updated ;; since August last year and does not compilefor several months. I tried ;; to contact the old maintainer but hedid not answer my email. Could ;; anyone please orphan it? Thanks inadvance. ;; Regards ;; Sebastian ;; -- ;; mail:sebastian_hase@gmx.de ;; jabber: s.hase(a)jabber.ccc.de ;; homepage:http://sulaco.funpic.de Sebastian -- Hi, someone did already Regards Stefan

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[aur-general] Request to orphaning scummvm-svn
by Sebastian Hase 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

Hi! I would like to adopt the scummvm-svn package in AUR. It was not updated since August last year and does not compile for several months. I tried to contact the old maintainer but he did not answer my email. Could anyone please orphan it? Thanks in advance. Regards Sebastian -- mail: sebastian_hase(a)gmx.de jabber: s.hase(a)jabber.ccc.de homepage: http://sulaco.funpic.de

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[aur-general] eclipse-qt4
by Shaika-Dzari Shaika-Dzari 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

Hello everyone! I maintain eclipse-qt4 in Aur. Currently the package is in error and I am unable to update it because my Arch box died yesterday (Grrr....). This package has 37 votes and some users depends on it. I would like to know: 1- Is it possible to some TU to update this package and put it in community? I think it could be a great addition. 2- If no TU is available, could a user update my package and orphan it after that? I will take it again when my new computer will be build. Thank everyone, Regard. -- Shaika-Dzari http://www.4nakama.net

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[aur-general] removal request: freedink
by Petteri Tolonen 06 Oct '08

06 Oct '08

Hi, I made a pkgbuild for GNU freedink and submitted it in AUR, but shortly after that the developer changed it's naming so that it has now been replaced with freedink-engine. Could you please remove 'freedink' from AUR? -- Petteri Tolonen

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[aur-general] New users and groups
by Lukáš Jirkovský 05 Oct '08

05 Oct '08

Hi, I've to introduce some new users in my ossec packages. My question is: may I use specific uid's and gids in PKGBUILD or I've to use adduser and groupadd etc. in install? The problem is that if I use adduser, groupadd and chown in install script pacman complains everytime when I run update of this package. And it's of course very messy way of doing it so. On the other hand, there can be conflicts with existing users and groups. What should I do? Regards Lukas 'stativ' Jirkovsky

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[aur-general] could not upgrade package on AUR
by ianux 30 Sep '08

30 Sep '08

Hello, I'm trying to upgrade a package on AUR (gnome-video-arcade), but it keep saying (and aurup too) "Could not create directory /home/aur/unsupported/gnome-video-arcade." what's wrong? -- radio ianux - http://ianux.fr/

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[aur-general] Integrity Check
by Xavier 30 Sep '08

30 Sep '08

Missing Dependencies ---------------------- flumotion --> 'twisted-web' gg2 --> 'arts' eclipse-ve --> 'eclipse<3.3' Missing Makedepends --------------------- perl-critic --> 'perl-devel-stacktrace>=0.17' gensplash --> 'klibc-beyond' pygoocanvas --> 'pygobject-doc'

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[aur-general] Removal of duplicate package
by Evangelos Foutras 30 Sep '08

30 Sep '08

Hello, I've submitted python-beautifulsoup without noticing that it already exists as beautiful-soup. Could a TU delete it? http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=20200 Thanks.

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[aur-general] TU Vote: Imanol 'ornitorrincos' Celaya
by member angvp 29 Sep '08

29 Sep '08

Hi TUs. This begins the 7 day voting period for the addition of Imanol 'ornitorrincos' Celaya as a Trusted User. Please don't forget to vote. If you want to see his presentation and the discussion thread: http://archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2008-September/008655.html You can vote using the web interface. Good luck Imanol! A. P.S: I am having issues with my principal e-mail account that's why i sent this e-mail from this and i surely delay a little bit ;-). Cheers

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[aur-general] sdlmame: move to unsupported
by Tiago Pierezan Camargo 29 Sep '08

29 Sep '08

Hi TUs, The sdlmame package is orphan in community since DaNiMoTh retirement. It's already outdated and no TU seems to be interested on it. Could someone move it to unsupported so I can maintain it properly? Thx! Tiago -- Tiago Pierezan Camargo milopi @ irc.freenode.net

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[aur-general] ejabberd
by Luís Moreira 27 Sep '08

27 Sep '08

Hello. I have download this package (ejabberd) from the community repository but it doesn't seem to work properly. When I try to add a user with the command -- ejabberdctl register user example.org password -- I get the error: {error_logger,{{2008,9,26},{17,29,53}},"inet_config: file ~s not found~n",["/usr/etc/ejabberd/inetrc"]} =ERROR REPORT==== 26-Sep-2008::17:29:53 === inet_config: file /usr/etc/ejabberd/inetrc not found {"init terminating in do_boot",{undef,[{ejabberd_ctl,start,[]},{init,start_it,1},{init,start_em,1}]}} ------------ But after I fixed this but with -- ln -s /etc/ejabberd/ /usr/etc/ -- I get another error: {"init terminating in do_boot",{undef,[{ejabberd_ctl,start,[]},{init,start_it,1},{init,start_em,1}]}} Crash dump was written to: /usr/var/log/ejabberd//erl_crash_20080926-173140.dump init terminating in do_boot () -------------- That I don't know how to fix. Any help? Thanks, Luís Moreira.

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[aur-general] Plans for packages in community
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 26 Sep '08

26 Sep '08

Hello, first of all congrats to Kessia and Paulo and good luck. I also have some questions. On BBS there was a discussion about having the documentation of the TeXlive packages available in some repo. There are some up-upstream authors of CTAN-packages who strongly want the documentation being made available in every distribution. On the other hand Arch politics also say that sdocumentation should be made available. So Firmicus asked me if I want to maintain the docus in community. These would be the packages 4868099 texlive-bibtexextra-doc/texlive-bibtexextra-doc-2008.10643-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 214408939 texlive-core-doc/texlive-core-doc-2008.10646-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 20710413 texlive-fontsextra-doc/texlive-fontsextra-doc-2008.10613-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 1757920 texlive-formatsextra-doc/texlive-formatsextra-doc-2008.-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 2794585 texlive-games-doc/texlive-games-doc-2008.-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 2514887 texlive-genericextra-doc/texlive-genericextra-doc-2008.-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 224299 texlive-htmlxml-doc/texlive-htmlxml-doc-2008.-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 8765996 texlive-humanities-doc/texlive-humanities-doc-2008.-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 483826 texlive-langcjk-doc/texlive-langcjk-doc-2008.-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 2186946 texlive-langcyrillic-doc/texlive-langcyrillic-doc-2008.-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 7552430 texlive-langextra-doc/texlive-langextra-doc-2008.-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 1866546 texlive-langgreek-doc/texlive-langgreek-doc-2008.-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 1879228 texlive-latex3-doc/texlive-latex3-doc-2008.-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 178688742 texlive-latexextra-doc/texlive-latexextra-doc-2008.10642-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 2582106 texlive-music-doc/texlive-music-doc-2008.-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 7200588 texlive-pictures-doc/texlive-pictures-doc-2008.10648-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 1079978 texlive-plainextra-doc/texlive-plainextra-doc-2008.-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 121885850 texlive-pstricks-doc/texlive-pstricks-doc-2008.10641-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 22512122 texlive-publishers-doc/texlive-publishers-doc-2008.10647-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz 10615573 texlive-science-doc/texlive-science-doc-2008.-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz sum (in bytes) 614579073 Exactly the same package sizes would be in community64 for x86_64 architecture. The packages are arch independent, though. What do you think? Are they too big? What are the plans about having a repo for architecture independent packages? Aonther question: there is a package named sage-mathematics in the AUR. It has been orphaned, so I updated it. The PKGBUILD downloads an about 200 MB tarball, the resulting package has 560 MB and unpacks to more than a gigabyte. Moreover, it comes with its own package manager, and consists of sub-packages, that partially are already included in Arch, i.e. python, maxima, octave... Should this go to community? What are your opinions? Regards Stefan

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[aur-general] What's goin on with Asterisk on Arch Linux?
by Marcelo Cavalcante 25 Sep '08

25 Sep '08

Hi everyone... Today i decided to start creating the [1]OpenR2 package for Arch Linux. OpenR2 is a library that implements the MFC/R2 telephony signaling protocol over E1 lines. Along with the library, branches for Asterisk are provided with MFC/R2 support in chan_zap. Well done, as my first move i decided to check in AUR if someone else had already thought about this package. The package isn't there. Great. So, I decided to take a look at our repos and search for asterisk. [kalib@tuxcaverna ~]$ sudo pacman -Ss asterisk Senha: [kalib@tuxcaverna ~]$ I realized that we don't have asterisk in our "pacman". I can't believe it. Asterisk is such an important package. I saw it on AUR. How can we have the package into our "regular" repos? Only if a TU addopt it? Best regards -- - °v° Marcelo Cavalcante Rocha / Kalib - /(_)\ Usuário Linux Registrado #407564 - ^ ^ GNU-Linux - Livre, Poderoso e Seguro - TUX-CE - www.tux-ce.org - http://blog.marcelocavalcante.net

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[aur-general] TU Application
by Imanol Celaya 25 Sep '08

25 Sep '08

Hello, My name is Imanol Celaya, I'm 19 years old and I'm studying Electrical Engineering in Bilbao, Spain. On the forums and irc you can find me as ornitorrincos. I started on linux on 2003 and first used fedora core, then debian and finally arch since late 2006 testing some more like gentoo, solaris, and openbsd on dual boot. a bit later I got involved in the Spanish arch community translating the docs and one iso installer. I'm also developing pyalpm [http://pyalpm.sourceforge.net] (not the 2005's attempt using ctype, but using distutils) I'm also one of the developers of the bot on #archlinux-es [github.com/ornitorrincos/archinator] As you can see with some of my packages [http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=m&K=ornitorrincos] I'm interested in packaging for arch some developer tools(as NetBSD's make and the TenDRA C compiler, svn at the moment as the latest "stable" release is from 1998 but I wouldn't mind try to package it if somebody wants it), of course, I'd be interested in packaging some more C/C++ compilers(which are not gcc, variety is a good thing), I'm also interested in python, EDA software and 3d apps. If possible I also plan to package some GPGPU software. I have both a x86_64 machine and a i686 machine with arch installed. On my free time I like to go out with some friends, see a movie or do 3d modeling. I've been some time wanting to be a TU and angvp told me that when I feel prepared I could ask him to be my sponsor, and as today I feel prepared to apply angvp is my sponsor. Greetings, Imanol

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[aur-general] the gimmie package
by M. Rawash 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

gimmie is completely broken in community, so please, either someone fix it, or move it to unsupported so i can adopt it (after you orphan it of course) Regards, M Rawash

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[aur-general] Packages of User Kiyura
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

Hello, The user kiyura seems to be inactive, I would like to take conkeror-git and fd. I will orphan the rest. The packages are last updated at the beginning of may. I contacted him via mail on 08/08/08 (not kidding) and got no reply. I use conkeror-git a lot, it is a xulrunner based webbrowser almost entirely written in Javascript. Regards Stefan

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Re: [aur-general] TU Application
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

> -----Original Message----- > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:10:12 +0200 > Subject: [aur-general] TU Application > From: Imanol Celaya > To: aur-general(a)archlinux.org > Hello, > My name is Imanol Celaya, I'm 19 years old and I'm studying Electrical > Engineering in Bilbao, Spain. On the forums and irc you can find me as > ornitorrincos. > I started on linux on 2003 and first used fedora core, then debian and > finally arch since late 2006 testing some more like gentoo, solaris, > and openbsd on dual boot. a bit later I got involved in the Spanish > arch community translating the docs and one iso installer. I'm also > developing pyalpm [http://pyalpm.sourceforge.net] (not the 2005's > attempt using ctype, but using distutils) I'm also one of the > developers of the bot on #archlinux-es > [github.com/ornitorrincos/archinator] > As you can see with some of my packages > [http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=m&K=ornitorrincos] I'm > interested in packaging for arch some developer tools(as NetBSD's make > and the TenDRA C compiler, svn at the moment as the latest "stable" > release is from 1998 but I wouldn't mind try to package it if somebody > wants it), of course, I'd be interested in packaging some more C/C++ > compilers(which are not gcc, variety is a good thing), I'm also > interested in python, EDA software and 3d apps. If possible I also > plan to package some GPGPU software. > I have both a x86_64 machine and a i686 machine with arch installed. > On my free time I like to go out with some friends, see a movie or do > 3d modeling. > I've been some time wanting to be a TU and angvp told me that when > I feel prepared I could ask him to be my sponsor, and as today I feel > prepared to apply angvp is my sponsor. > Greetings, > Imanol Hello, I had a quick look on some of your packages. They are formally well written IMHO. 4l: Dependency to gcc is not needed, it is in base-devel, and you have a mkdir -p which should be a install -d You can consider to replace $startdir/src with $srcdir and $startdir/pkg with $pkgdir in some PKGBUILDS. But that are minor issues. Can you please explain what EDA and GPGPU means? I did a little googling, but the pages I found go far beyond my skills in computer science. Do you have some projects for packaging in mind in that direction? Regards Stefan

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[aur-general] Broken packages
by rabyte 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

Could some nice TU fix the packages pyrenamer and glista, please? Thanks ^-^ -- Follow The White Rabyte . . .

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[aur-general] amarok2-svn and mysql issue
by jofko 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

Hi Alexander, my name is jofko and im package contributtor for kdemod-playground packages. One of these packages is amarok2 svn version. Today amarok2 switch to new mysql embedded database type. Current extra package is compiled without options --with-embedded-server. Adding this option to mysql package will make possible for all user to compile all further versions of amarok2. I already added this option to PKGBUILD file. You can find it in attachment together with patch. Thank you and advance. Jofko

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[aur-general] pkgrel updates
by Allan McRae 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

Hi TUs, I was looking at the pkg_diff page in order to build some packages for community64 and noticed something I found a bit worrying and after much thought, I decided to bring it up. It could all be entirely legitimate and if so I apologize. A large portion of recent updates (~2/3) are only bumped in the pkgrel, i.e. no pkgver update. While I realize some of these will be legitimate rebuilds, it is a bit of a concern to me given nothing major has moved from the testing repo and I don't recognize the packages from bug reports. I haven't looked at whose packages these are (and at this stage, I honestly don't care), but it seems a reminder about quality control on the packaging front is needed. I don't mean to sound overly grumpy, but this costs users and the mirrors bandwidth as well as giving the few x86_64 using TUs more work. I really don't like writing emails like this. We can all make good packages or else we wouldn't be TUs. So please double check your packages before uploading them. Regards, Allan

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[aur-general] TU Vote: Paulo Matias (thotypous)
by Hugo Doria 24 Sep '08

24 Sep '08

Hi TUs, This begins the 7 day voting thread for the addition of Paulo Matias as a TU. Please, dont forget to vote. You can see his introduction and the discussion period here: http://archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2008-September/008524.html You can vote using the web interface. Good Luck, Paulo. -- Hugo

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[aur-general] Orphan request: xmlrpc-c
by Vitaliy Berdinskikh 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

Hi all. Could someone orphan xmlrpc on AUR? The package last update was nearly 2 years ago, and its maintainer seems to be inactive on AUR. I'd like to adopt this package to update it (to 1.06.30). Thanks. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=5885 -- Sincerely yours, Vitaliy Berdinskikh (Виталий Бердинских)

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[aur-general] (no subject)
by Mads Michelsen 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

Hi, As explained here <http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=55635> , I'd like to take over the fsaa1655g<http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8281>package - but it needs to be orphaned first. Can this be done? - Mads

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[aur-general] TU Vote: Kessia 'even' Pinheiro
by Ángel Velásquez 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

Hi TUs, This begins the 7 day voting thread for the addition of Kessia Pinheiro a.k.a 'even' as a TU. Please, dont forget to vote. You can see his introduction and the discussion period here: http://archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2008-September/008514.html You can vote using the web interface. Good Luck Kessia! -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User (TU) http://www.angvp.com

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Re: [aur-general] Stopping Arch contribuiting
by M. Rawash 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 23:24 +0200, Ronald van Haren wrote: On 9/21/08, M. Rawash <mrawash(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > ok, i've also packaged (fedora's) online-desktop (see > > http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/11/13/tour-of-gnome-online-desktop/) > > which includes quite a few packages (that include empathy among others), i > > was wondering if we could create a new group in community called > > 'online-desktop', which shall include: > > - online-desktop > > - bigboard > > - beautifulsoup > > - hippo-canvas > > - desktop-data-model > > - empathy/telepathy > > - others? > > > > i wanna hear your thoughts, this is only my second message to AUR's ML > > > nah, better not. Groups are for official packages to make installing > of for example desktop environments easier. Creating groups for each > and every package is not the way to go, we have depends and optdepends > for that. Besides that adding new groups for unsupported packages does > not make much sense to me. online-desktop is 'almost' a desktop of its own, but i don't really know much about Arch's policy considering groups, so you're probably right.. > ps. there is already beautiful-soup in community. I assume we can > remove beautifulsoup from unsupported? yes, i've already fixed my packages deps, you can delete it now, and i'll try to search more next time :P > > i could also use some help packaging mugshot, seems like it needs some > > patching in order to find some xulrunner deps, but i'll keep trying.. > > > Post what you have and the error message. Maybe someone has time to help you. the error message is completely useless, somebody has to try it him/herself, gentoo already has a patch for it, but i didn't bother to try to rip it off (for now): http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/sunrise/reviewed/net-misc/mugshot/mugsh… patches are in ../files, they use the firefox engine however, while we're trying to use xulrunner-1.9... > Ronald cheers..

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Re: [aur-general] Stopping Arch contribuiting
by M. Rawash 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 12:52 +0200, Timm Preetz wrote: On Sun, 2008-09-21 at 12:17 +0200, Andrea Scarpino wrote: > > 2008/9/21 M. Rawash <mrawash(a)gmail.com>: > > > i've adopted most telepathy/empathy packages, except for 'telepathy-glib' > > > please move it to unsupported so i can adopt it :) > > telepathy-glib cannot be moved to unsupported, is required by > > telepathy-haze and telepathy-sofiasip in [community], both maintained > > by gummibaerchen. > > I will talk to the devs, whether they will put empathy + telepathy-* in > [extra] with GNOME 2.24 or not. ok, i've also packaged (fedora's) online-desktop (see http://www.redhatmagazine.com/2007/11/13/tour-of-gnome-online-desktop/) which includes quite a few packages (that include empathy among others), i was wondering if we could create a new group in community called 'online-desktop', which shall include: - online-desktop - bigboard - beautifulsoup - hippo-canvas - desktop-data-model - empathy/telepathy - others? i wanna hear your thoughts, this is only my second message to AUR's ML i could also use some help packaging mugshot, seems like it needs some patching in order to find some xulrunner deps, but i'll keep trying.. Regards, M. Rawash

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Re: [aur-general] Stopping Arch contribuiting
by M. Rawash 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 15:23 +0200, Angel Velásquez wrote: Well, now that Ronald and I mention it, let help DaNiMoTh with this. > > This is the list of packages that actually DaNiMoTh maintain... i've adopted most telepathy/empathy packages, except for 'telepathy-glib' please move it to unsupported so i can adopt it :) i've also adopted compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupport.. i will be upgrading all outdated packages soon..

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[aur-general] Stopping Arch contribuiting
by DaNiMoTh 21 Sep '08

21 Sep '08

It's with a lot of sadness that I say "bye!" to archlinux. My life is changing ( I will go to live in another city with some friends ), with only an Apple Powerbook (powerPC machine). The arch machine will remain at my sister ( I hope she learn about arch and its pkgs.. and will apply for TUship here :] ). Sorry, in this moment I can't find the right word. I hope you will comprehend me. Thank you all

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[aur-general] Orphan request: dstat
by Schnouki 20 Sep '08

20 Sep '08

Hello, Could someone orphan dstat [1] on AUR ? The package last update was nearly 2 years ago, and its maintainer seems to be inactive on AUR since nearly one year. I'd like to adopt this package to update it (from 0.6.3 to 0.6.8) and fix its PKGBUILD (include man pages, fix the license tag, add an arch tag, etc.). Thanks. Schnouki [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=4383 -- There's no place like 127.0.0.1

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[aur-general] FW: Re: pkg.tar.gz files in community cvs
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 20 Sep '08

20 Sep '08

-----Original Message----- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:26:39 +0200 Subject: Re: [aur-general] pkg.tar.gz files in community cvs From: "stefan-husmann(a)t-online.de" <stefan-husmann(a)t-online.de> To: "Allan McRae" <allan(a)archlinux.org> -----Original Message----- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:55:58 +0200 Subject: Re: [aur-general] pkg.tar.gz files in community cvs From: Allan McRae <allan(a)archlinux.org> To: "stefan-husmann(a)t-online.de" <stefan-husmann(a)t-online.de>, "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" <aur-general(a)archlinux.org> stefan-husmann(a)t-online.de wrote: > -----Original Message----- > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:51:41 +0200 > Subject: [aur-general] pkg.tar.gz files in community cvs > From: "Sergej Pupykin" > To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" > > > Hi, > > somebody add and commit pkgfiles into CVS. > > vym and bibledesktop packages. > -- > > > Hello, > > that was me. I was following the wiki, and this were my first packages > in community. Is doing so wrong? If yes, I am sorry. > The problem then may be also valid for packages for codeblocks and > ex-vi. > I cleaned up ex-vi. As I am sure Angel pointed out to you already, you only need to add the PKGBUILD, install file, Changelog and any patches to cvs. You do not need to add the package. > BTW I could not upload a package for fotoxx (categor, getting an error > message similar to this: > > failed to create lock directory for `/home/cvs-community' > (/var/lock/cvs/./#cvs.lock): Permission denied > cvs remove: failed to obtain dir lock in repository > `/home/cvs-community' > cvs [remove aborted]: read lock failed - giving up > My guess is both you and another TU tried commiting to cvs at the same time. Try uploading again. Allan Thank you, he pointed that out now. The error concerning fotoxx goes somewhat deeper. I was not able to update it, I even got a similar message if I try a 'cvs remove fotoxx-5.3-1.pkg.tar.gz'. Sorry for all that. I added the sentences "Build files are files necessary to build the package, not the package itself. Do not add any *.pkg.tar.gz-files." to the Wiki, because this was the misleading part of the Wiki for me. Stefan

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Re: [aur-general] pkg.tar.gz files in community cvs
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 20 Sep '08

20 Sep '08

-----Original Message----- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:51:41 +0200 Subject: [aur-general] pkg.tar.gz files in community cvs From: "Sergej Pupykin" To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" Hi, somebody add and commit pkgfiles into CVS. vym and bibledesktop packages. -- Hello, that was me. I was following the wiki, and this were my first packages in community. Is doing so wrong? If yes, I am sorry. The problem then may be also valid for packages for codeblocks and ex-vi. BTW I could not upload a package for fotoxx (categor, getting an error message similar to this: failed to create lock directory for `/home/cvs-community' (/var/lock/cvs/./#cvs.lock): Permission denied cvs remove: failed to obtain dir lock in repository `/home/cvs-community' cvs [remove aborted]: read lock failed - giving up Ciao Stefan

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[aur-general] pkg.tar.gz files in community cvs
by Sergej Pupykin 20 Sep '08

20 Sep '08

Hi, somebody add and commit pkgfiles into CVS. vym and bibledesktop packages.

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[aur-general] AUR - Turkish Translation?
by H.Gökhan SARI 19 Sep '08

19 Sep '08

Hi all, We - *Archlinux Turkish Users* - have translated AUR into Turkish and I have sent it to this list a long time ago. However, Turkish (TR) language is still not available on AUR. What else should we do to see Turkish language on AUR? -- H.Gökhan SARI hsa2(a)difuzyon.net

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[aur-general] pkgs with tetex dependency
by Firmicus 17 Sep '08

17 Sep '08

Hello all, As you may have noticed, my texlive-* pkgs have disappeared from community and brand new ones have replaced tetex in extra. Here are community packages that depend on tetex: gri prosper lilypond texvc auctex python-pyx yfklog Thanks for eventually fixing these! Also, I just added tetex to unsupported, and the web interface tells me that tetex is a dependency of the following pkgs (excluding the above): advi algorithmicx * arabtex * cjk-gbkfonts csindex dblatex eqe fig2ps foiltex fuzz gastex * hlatex klatexformula kletterwizard latex-beamer * latex-fitch lgrind athtex pdfjam pdfselect pidgin-latex svninfo * tex-cases * texlipse tex-unicode * vlna * wyneken xindy * NB: those with a star * are already provided by one of the texlive-* pkgs in extra, and IMO should be deleted. Question: should I move tetex to community? I would prefer not, since it is REALLY outdated, but some users may prefer using it rather than the bleeding-edge but quite larger combination texlive-core + texlive-bin. Best, F

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[aur-general] wxformbuilder-svn orphaning request
by Артем Смирнов 16 Sep '08

16 Sep '08

Hi. I have prepared updated PKGBUILD for wxformbuilder-svn which does not compilled now, but author of the package seems no longer active. Could this package orphaned for me? Thanks. -- Artyom

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[aur-general] Remove bad packages
by kasa 16 Sep '08

16 Sep '08

Please, can someone remove these packages from AUR: networkmanager-svn gnome-network-manager-svn hal-policykit they have the infamous 'can't create dir' bug I'll re-upload them as soon as I can -- kasa

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[aur-general] Broken package (egoboo)
by rabyte 16 Sep '08

16 Sep '08

The package egoboo is broken ("couldn't create dir"). Could somebody please fix it? Thansk, and thanks also to the TUs who already fixed some packages before :-) -- Follow The White Rabyte . . .

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[aur-general] KDevelop
by Peter Lewis 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I was just wondering what the progress of KDevelop 4 is. Both the kdevelop and kdevplatform packages are out of date. Is anyone working on these? (I know they are not released yet, but it'd be nice to try!) Thanks, Peter.

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[aur-general] Broken package (openarena)
by rabyte 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

Another package in need of fixing: openarena -- Follow The White Rabyte . . .

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[aur-general] Inquiry to orphan xdotool
by Evangelos Foutras 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

Hello everyone, The xdotool package in [unstable] hasn't been updated to the latest version which was released about 3 months ago. I've tried contacting the current maintainer via email on Sep 04 to ask about the package's status and let him know that I wouldn't mind maintaining it in case he's not up to it (e.g. due to time constrains or loss of interest) but he hasn't respond yet. If it were to be orphaned, I'd be happy to adopt it. Thanks.

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[aur-general] Please Delete These Packages
by Ashok Gautham 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

I created the following 2 packages in aur without checking if they existed in extra. I am sorry about that. I disowned them. So can some TU delete it for me? http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19968 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15334 Thanks in advance, ScriptDevil

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[aur-general] orphan request libaio
by Jens 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

Hello everyone, could someone please orphan libaio[1], which has been marked as out-of-date for quite a while, it doesn't build because the srcurl is wrong. I'd like to adopt it as it is a dependency for a package[2] I maintain. Kind Regards, jensp [1]: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?do_Details=1&ID=4372 [2]: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?do_Details=1&ID=8003

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[aur-general] Integrity check
by Xavier 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

It looks like there are regularly missing PKGBUILDs, how does this happen? I never saw it for core/extra/.. repos, only for community. Missing PKGBUILDs ------------------- community/kde/kdestyle-polyester community/office/texlive-core Missing Dependencies ---------------------- flumotion --> 'twisted-web' gg2 --> 'arts' eclipse-ve --> 'eclipse<3.3' Missing Makedepends --------------------- gensplash --> 'klibc-beyond' pygoocanvas --> 'pygobject-doc'

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[aur-general] community64 builds
by Allan McRae 15 Sep '08

15 Sep '08

Hi, Could some of our x86_64 wielding TU's have a look at the package difference page (http://www.archlinux.de/?page=ArchitectureDifferences) and do some building? I am a bit busy with work to do this at the moment. Cheers, Allan

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[aur-general] Another broken package (fatsort)
by rabyte 14 Sep '08

14 Sep '08

Could somebody fix the fatsort package, please? I'd also be most grateful if egoboo could be fixed. Thanks all :-) -- Follow The White Rabyte . . .

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[aur-general] TU Application
by Paulo Matias 12 Sep '08

12 Sep '08

Hi, My name is Paulo Matias. I'm 19 years old, and I'm currently at the third year of a four-year Bachelor of Computational Physics course at University of Sao Paulo, Brazil. I'm a Linux user since 1998, when I started using Conectiva Linux. This was my main distribution until 2003, when I changed to Debian-based distributions. Then I switched to Gentoo at 2005. Finally, since about one year, Arch Linux has become my distribution of choice. I was very attracted by the lack of bureaucracy and by the warm and friendly community. I'm a programmer experienced in C, C++, Python, Ruby, JavaScript, AWK, PHP, Java and Fortran77 languages. I've learned something about Lua and Haskell, too. I have written some open source projects: trayion, samsutools, qvm, opensvs, pycyber, fastsight, ziprecv, gcbq, stegomaster, ruby-v4l, The Damn Small OS's VM, MPBot addons, BRNews and K-Lite Linux. I currently mantain some packages at AUR, notably the VirtualBox PUEL edition packages and Open Sound System (OSS) related packages, among others. My packages are listed at http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=m&K=thotypous. I often contribute to packages not maintained by me. I had recently contributed to the iverilog, vmware-player-modules and qc-usb packages. I was already experienced at packaging software for NetBSD, as a pkgsrc-wip project contributor. My packages at pkgsrc are listed at http://pkgsrc.se/bbmaint.php?maint=matias|a|dotbsd.org. I had packaged software there whose packages are currently maintained by others too, such as gnash and ghc. I recently started to develop some projects directly related to Arch Linux, namely arch-sheriff and pkgbuildtools. The arch-sheriff project is security-related and was recently presented at Arch mailing lists by our friend Hugo Doria. The pkgbuildtools project is currently being planned, and will provide some tools inspired by pkgsrc pkgtools and infrastructure. I'm an official member of the ArchLinux Brasil group, and have a blog (in Portuguese) at http://matias.archlinux-br.org and some stuff at http://matias.archlinux-br.org/files. Hugo Doria has offered to be my sponsor as a Trusted User. I hope to bring more useful packages to community and to help managing AUR. Currently, I sadly don't own any x86_64 capable machine. I will be happy to answer any question. Best regards, Paulo Matias

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[aur-general] TU Application
by Kessia 'even' Pinheiro 12 Sep '08

12 Sep '08

Hi, My name is Kessia Pinheiro (a.k.a even), I'm a 22 years old finishing my computer scientist degree at Federal University of Bahia in Salvador/Bahia/Brazil. I'm working now part-time on sysadmin stuff's (as treinee). I've used Linux since 2004, with Slackware, but I had problems with many things and decided switch to another distro. I tried many light distros, but none was completed to me. So I discovered Arch in 2006 and I got involved with the brazilian community, helping people and writting some docs [1]. Me and my friends (hdoria and dsa) did a speech about ArchLinux in FISL [2] this April in Porto Alegre/Brazil. Other contribution is the pacupdate (developed with hdoria), a tray notifier for new updates for pacman [3]. Recently I'm interested in packaging for Arch, because some applications I used aren't in the repositories. Before Arch, I packaged a private .deb for my work, finally I sweat a lot and I couldn't remember exactly what I did, but i did it. So, I discover the Arch way to package and in few minutes my package was at AUR, I was so happy! So, now my contributions with PKGBUILDs are 16 [4] and growing. I'm packaging some stuff's that i have not found in repositories and these are helpful for some people. I'm also adopting some to help the number of orphans be lower. So, as a TU, my plans are help manage AUR and community repo, also trying alert the contributors about problems with their PKGBUILDs, because many packages are out of date for a long time or with incomplete PKGBUILDs or incorrect. I want to help with some security apps too (my major contribution was snort package, hdoria adopted it in extra), helping to make more eyes at the security topic. My main machine is a Dell laptop and i am using Arch i686 (but this laptop has an x86_64 architecture, so I'll install Arch64 this week). I have an old machine at work, but normally I use the laptop there too. My boyfriend also have the same laptop with Arch i686. In my free time I like stay with my boyfriend, play videogames, listen music, read things are out of my degree course, viewing tv series. Oh, the last thing, hdoria and angvp encouraged me to do this proposal, in fact they fought for who will be my sponsor, but angvp finally push more and he wins. However, hdoria is a friend of mine and he will share the sponsor with angvp (to be fair and no one cry). =) Let's start the questions, I'm honored to answer. Thanks for your time! To find me: even @ irc.freenode.net even [at] archlinux-br [dot] org [1] http://even.archlinux-br.org/ [2] http://fisl.softwarelivre.org/9.0/papers/pub/programacao/26 [3] http://code.google.com/p/pacupdate [4] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=m&K=even -- Kessia Pinheiro Student at Computer Science - UFBa Trainee with ProCaTI founds - DiSup/CPD - UFBa Contributor in Arch Linux Brasil Project Linux Counter User #389695 - [http://counter.li.org] http://even.archlinux-br.org

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[aur-general] Removal request
by Dan Vratil 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

Hi, please remove my package libosip (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=473) because of it's redundancy. Reasons are given in comment at this package. Thank you. Dan -- --------------------------------- Dan Vrátil progdan(a)progdansoft.com ICQ 249163429 Jabber progdan(a)jabber.cz Tel. +420 732 326 870

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[aur-general] removal request
by Lukáš Jirkovský 09 Sep '08

09 Sep '08

Hi, Today I was browsing through the AUR and I've noticed package, which should be removed. It is gimp-plugin-dbp (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=15448) which is already in [extra]. Regards Lukáš 'stativ' Jirkovský

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[aur-general] Moving packages from community to unsupported
by Ángel Velásquez 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

Hi everyone, After weeks that i've send a request to TU team interested in packages which are orphans, and still remaining orphan packages, we decided to move to unsupported. multimedia: ======= aconnectgui amsynth bitmeter caps farsight fluidsynth-dssi gstreamer0.10-farsight hexter jamin jdelay meterbridge seq24 sineshaper tk707 vkeybd waveutils xsynth-dssi zynaddsubfx gnome ===== empathy gnome-art gnome-splashscreen-manager kanatest tablet-apps Anders helped me with: devel ==== bakefile mod_ruby mono-zeroconf telepathy-inspector emulators ======= atari800 coldfile gdb-armulator skyeye softgun stella and BaSh helped me with: games ===== tetringo kde === kdestyle-polyester kiso lib === jrtplib jthread libmimic libtelepathy python-telepathy ruby-amazon ruby-event-loop ruby-gnomeprint ruby-gnomeprintui ruby-gnomevfs ruby-gtkhtml2 ruby-gtkmozembed ruby-gtksourceview ruby-gtktrayicon ruby-postgress ruby-rsvg ruby-scw ruby-shout rubygame scw tapioca network ======= pcmanx-gtk2 qtm tapioca-xmpp tapiocaui telepathy-butterfly telepathy-gabble telepathy-idle telepathy-mission-control telepathy-salut telepathy-stream-engine system ===== lzma-utils *NOTE*: python-geotypes is orphan but is required by mezogis (dtw) telepathy-glib and sofia-sip are orphan but are required by telepathy-sofiasip and telepathy-haze (gummibaerchen) Thanks to BaSh and Anders for helping me, and I'd like to know if dtw and gummibaerchen are active at this moment, to know what will we do with the remaining orphan packages. Cheers! -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User (TU) http://www.angvp.com

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[aur-general] Dropping my packages
by Hannes Rist 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

newsbeuter stfl unp whitenoise lush bgs-hg gajim-otr-bzr Hey guys, As of now I won't have the time to maintain my packages on AUR anymore and I'm therefore looking for new maintainers. If you want to maintain one of the packages below mail me at cowider%2Barch(a)gmail.com newsbeuter + stfl unp whitenoise lush bgs-hg gajim-otr-bzr regards hrist

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[aur-general] apache13 1.3.41-2 needs to be rebuilt
by Dennis Akerlind 06 Sep '08

06 Sep '08

Had some troubles getting emails out and I'll resend this one, hopefully you dont get a duplicate :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Dennis Akerlind <aakerlind(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:24 PM Subject: apache13 1.3.41-2 needs to be rebuilt To: aur-general(a)archlinux.org Hi all, Been trying to get in contact with the maintainer of apache13 1.3.41-2 but without any luck. After the latest db update you cant even start apache13, therefor Im asking if someone maybe could update the package. Link to it: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9056 Kind Regards

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Re: [aur-general] TU Vote: Stefan Husmann
by stefan-husmann＠t-online.de 04 Sep '08

04 Sep '08

-----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:15:47 +0200 Subject: Re: [aur-general] TU Vote: Stefan Husmann From: Ángel Velásquez To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" Hi TUs, The voting period for Stefan Husmann (StefanHusmann or haawda) has now ended. Vote count on AUR: Yes - 19, No - 0, Abstain - 1 By my counts we have reached quorum and Stefan is now a TU. Stefan, what you need to do now is: 1.- Send the output of "htpasswd -n " to Simo (htpasswd is in the apache package) > 3.- Make sure your sponsor (me) has given you TU status on the AUR 4.- Ask some TU for the #archlinux-tu@freenode key. 5.- Add yourself to the Trusted Users page on the wiki http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trusted_Users 6.- Read the Trusted User Guidelines http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Trusted_User_Guidelines and AURTools Tutorial again http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AURtools_Tutorial 7.- If you are not upgraded to a Trusted User group on bugtracker in two days, report this as a bug to Roman 8.- Ask Aaron for access to the x86_64 build machine if you need it (when it comes back online); Ask Geoffroy for a x86_64 on koon too 9.- Start contributing! 10.- Enjoy it! (suggested by pressh =]) Congrats! and welcome to the team Stefan!. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User (TU) http://www.angvp.com Hello, thank you all for your votes and warm welcome. I hope I will fulfill all expectations. So far: > 1.- Send the output of "htpasswd -n " to Simo (htpasswd is in >the apache package) I did so. > 2.- Contact Eric to change your account on forums I did so. > 5.- Add yourself to the Trusted Users page on the wiki > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trusted_Users I did so. I will again read The TU guidelines and the aurtools page. Especially the latter is quite new to me. Maybe I will need some help, but I'll see. Ciao Stefan

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Re: [aur-general] Remove bad packages
by Loui 03 Sep '08

03 Sep '08

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 04:38:58PM +0200, Xavier wrote: > Loui, I am confused with FS#8672 and FS#11141, please reply to my > comment in the first one. > > Is it possible to re-use that wiki page for making an uptodate list of > directories that should be removed : > http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_CleanUp_Day#Remove_from_Filesystem_… > > That is, send a mail to aur-general asking every user to add their > broken packages to that list, and to remove them when it is fixed ? Xavier, sorry for the late response. I think this bug (8672) and 11187 are actually the same and I just managed to find a separate bug which was preventing uploads of dependencies. Removing directories would not have remedied the bug that was solved. I'll close this and continue the line of investigation via 11187 since there are more relevant details about the bug there. I believe that the list of bad directories at http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_CleanUp_Day is still pretty relevant. We can now automate removal of all files of packages that aren't in the database. Since users can no longer delete packages, so there's little chance of malicious adoption then deletion of packages. I think using the wiki page to list bad directories is a great idea. I've edited the bug report (11187) directing users to do that.

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[aur-general] Broken package dir
by rabyte 03 Sep '08

03 Sep '08

Could a TU please remove the directory for postal2stp-freemp? It's affected by the "can't create dir" bug. Thanks :-)

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[aur-general] Integrity Check
by Xavier 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

It found some new errors, so here are the current results : Missing PKGBUILDs ------------------- community/devel/php-eaccelerator community/devel/php-xcache community/network/knetworkmanager Missing Dependencies ---------------------- flumotion --> 'twisted-web' gg2 --> 'arts' eclipse-ve --> 'eclipse<3.3' man-pages-cs --> 'groff-utf8' Missing Makedepends --------------------- gensplash --> 'klibc-beyond' pygoocanvas --> 'pygobject-doc' As far as I know, the only legitimate one is eclipse-ve --> 'eclipse<3.3'

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Re: [aur-general] TU Vote: Stefan Husmann
by Ángel Velásquez 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

Hi TUs, The voting period for Stefan Husmann (StefanHusmann or haawda) has now ended. Vote count on AUR: Yes - 19, No - 0, Abstain - 1 By my counts we have reached quorum and Stefan is now a TU. Stefan, what you need to do now is: 1.- Send the output of "htpasswd -n <userid>" to Simo (htpasswd is in the apache package) 2.- Contact Eric to change your account on forums 3.- Make sure your sponsor (me) has given you TU status on the AUR 4.- Ask some TU for the #archlinux-tu@freenode key. 5.- Add yourself to the Trusted Users page on the wiki http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trusted_Users 6.- Read the Trusted User Guidelines http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Trusted_User_Guidelines and AURTools Tutorial again http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AURtools_Tutorial 7.- If you are not upgraded to a Trusted User group on bugtracker in two days, report this as a bug to Roman 8.- Ask Aaron for access to the x86_64 build machine if you need it (when it comes back online); Ask Geoffroy for a x86_64 on koon too 9.- Start contributing! 10.- Enjoy it! (suggested by pressh =]) Congrats! and welcome to the team Stefan!. -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User (TU) http://www.angvp.com

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[aur-general] New Trusted User Checklist
by Xavier 02 Sep '08

02 Sep '08

Just a reminder that this wiki page exists : http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/New_Trusted_User_Checklist It should be easier to maintain and update it that way.

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[aur-general] Request to orphaning gecodej
by Gustavo A. Gómez Farhat 01 Sep '08

01 Sep '08

Hi all. I would like to adopt the gecodej package in AUR. This package is not updated since June, and the maintainer "nikor" does not reply my comments and messages. As I am the gecode maintainer, and gecodej depends on gecode, I could update this package very easy. Could anyone orphan it? Thanks in advance. -- Gustavo Andrés Gómez Farhat

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[aur-general] ncurses rebuilds
by Allan McRae 31 Aug '08

31 Aug '08

Hi TUs, In case you have missed it, there is an ncurses rebuild that is now finished in the [testing] repos. This requires most (if not all) programs that link to ncurses to be rebuilt. Depending on sign-offs, I am aiming to move this near the end of next week so it would be good to have your rebuilds ready to upload when this happens. I'll let you know closer to the time a more precise day for the move. Allan PS. We really need a [community-testing] repo.

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Re: [aur-general] [arch-dev-public] Cleaning up the base group
by wide-eye 30 Aug '08

30 Aug '08

> Packages that we should think about: > - mdadm > - pcmciautils > - cryptsetup, lvm2 (plus their deps libgcrypt, libgpg-error, device-mapper) > Those are base tools, but not everybody needs them. I'd like to keep > them in base, but maybe someone else may disagree. I just want to point out a few ways i know these are used and a few things that need to be checked and patched before removing them. 1. These are all in rc.sysinit. the mdadm and cryptsetup sections do not test if the binaries exist before trying to run them, just if the configs exist. this could create exciting panics or other fun behavior if someone enables it in rc.conf without adding the packages. but a fix is a simple -x test added to the beginning of those sections. 2. setup(installer) will need to know it should add packages if you answer yes to the various raid/lvm/encrypted questions. in the worst case this would break ftp installs. Ensuring the ftp installer isn't broken by this is my main concern. will someone test the existing installer to see if it breaks with these changes? Besides setup, these are mainly user errors. So at least it needs to be documented in the install guide. Jonathan

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[aur-general] "Can't create directory" bug and inaccessible files
by rabyte 29 Aug '08

29 Aug '08

When uploading some packages earlier, I couldn't access any files except the PKGBUILDs (all others gave me "Access forbidden"). Can't update the pkgs either, as I always get that "can't create directory" error message :-( -- Follow The White Rabyte . . .

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Re: [aur-general] Integrity Check
by Xavier 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Xavier <shiningxc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I rewrote stonecrest's python script which generated the Integrity > Checks : http://projects.archlinux.org/?p=dbscripts.git;a=blob_plain;f=cron-jobs/che… > last results : http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2008-August/007655.html > > Main changes include : > * better and safer parsing of PKGBUILDs > (it now relies on a separate bash script which source PKGBUILDs and > generate python code, rather than trying to parse bash directly in > python) > * much better performance > (thanks to a small python C extension which allows to call alpm_vercmp > natively rather than having to fork the vercmp binary thousands of > times) > * more accurate dependency and provision handling > (having worked on this part of the pacman code for a while probably > helped me a bit here) > I made one design change. Finally I found that generating python code was a bit hackish and less flexible, so I reverted back to a DESC-like format, very easy to parse in python. And this is the namcap way : the python script just calls the bash parsing script then read and parse its output. I finished to implement all features the original script had, mostly the repo hierarchy one and circular deps checking. About circular deps, the old algorithm used was a bit messy and hard to understand, so I just chose to implement an existing one : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarjan%27s_strongly_connected_components_algor… This resulted in better and complete results, and also at a much better performance (old one took ~20 seconds in cygwin, new one is instant). The only feature that I refused to keep is the "Missing Repo Packages" one which checked the package existence on ftp.archlinux.org . This was the only one using network, and in my opinion, it does not have this place in this script. Instead, someone knowing the layout of the arch server could write another very simple script checking that all packages in the abs tree have a respective package in the package dir, if both happen to be on the same server. Enough with the technical details, here are the stripped results : 1) Results for core and extra $ ./check_packages.py --abs-tree=/var/abs --repos=core,extra Missing Dependencies ---------------------- archboot --> 'bcm43xx-fwcutter>=006-2' Missing Makedepends --------------------- wpa_supplicant --> 'kernel26<2.6.25' xosd --> 'xmms' flac --> 'xmms' Repo Hierarchy for Makedepends -------------------------------- core/iputils depends on extra/jade core/madwifi-utils depends on extra/sharutils core/e2fsprogs depends on extra/bc core/ca-certificates depends on extra/ruby core/madwifi depends on extra/sharutils Circular Dependencies ----------------------- glibc>bash>readline>ncurses>glibc db>coreutils>shadow>pam>db eclipse-ecj>gcc-gcj>eclipse-ecj 2) Results for community $ ./check_packages.py --abs-tree=/var/abs --repos=core,extra,community --exclude=core,extra Missing PKGBUILDs ------------------- community/kde/kdestyle-lipstik Missing Dependencies ---------------------- flumotion --> 'twisted-web' qc-usb --> 'kernel26<2.6.26' gg2 --> 'arts' eclipse-ve --> 'eclipse<3.3' man-pages-cs --> 'groff-utf8' Missing Makedepends --------------------- gensplash --> 'klibc-beyond' pygoocanvas --> 'pygobject-doc'

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[aur-general] eclipse-bzr removing request
by Артем Смирнов 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

Hi! Please remove my package eclipse-bzr, I renamed it to eclipse-bazaar-plugin. Thanks. -- Artyom

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[aur-general] makepkg 3.2.1 testing
by Xavier 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

Hello, while pacman 3.2.0 release was quite good, makepkg one was a bit worse. I think the main cause is the lack of testing. I personally always use the devel versions of pacman and makepkg, but I use pacman daily, while I only use makepkg very irregularly. Anyway, the 3.2.1 release is close now, and all known makepkg bugs were fixed : - fix download functions with weird URLs (FS#11076) - fix creation of source package with local files (FS#11149) - fix error when sourcing profile scripts (FS#11179) - perform case-insensitive checksum comparison (FS#11283) For FS#11292 (handling multiple source files which have the same name), a new feature had to be introduced. it is now possible to use the filename of your choice for remote sources, like this : source=('filename::http://path/to/file') This allows to handle multiple source files with same name, and also to handle more nicely weird URLs like http://www.vim.org/scripts/download_script.php?src_id=6992. So if some of the intensive makepkg users could just grab this pre 3.2.1 release and simply check everything is still fine with their PKGBUILDs, or more specifically check that all the bugs mentioned here are fixed, or that the new filename feature correctly, that would be great. Simply gunzip the attached file, and either run it directly from where you extracted it, or put it somewhere in your path.

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[aur-general] Remove Firefox-2.0.0.16
by Leonardo Andrés Gallego 27 Aug '08

27 Aug '08

Hi, I need someone (a TU maybe?) to remove a wrong named pkg in AUR. I own Firefox2-2.0.0.16 and Firefox-2.0.0.16. The Firefox-2.0.0.16 should be deleted. Firefox2-2.0.0.16 is a work in progress and may not function in its current state. I will be asking the list a few questions as soon as i get some free time this weekend. Regards!

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[aur-general] Remove notify-sharp
by kasa 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

Since the right notify-sharp is now in community, please remove my package from AUR. -- kasa

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[aur-general] Remove bad packages
by Tom 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Allan McRae, could you remove pdfsam so i can reupload it again? http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17514 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkiz7GcACgkQRScp7ATOSDzl1QCcCpRU3af0zppH0zdNmARuFeI6 ORoAoJUDHy/MGzXyDeMfDOO0ihjq5rIo =d1ZL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [aur-general] Remove bad packages
by Mickaël l. 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

Le mardi 26 août 2008 à 19:15 +1000, Allan McRae a écrit : > Mickaël l. wrote: > > > > Thanks, that work for bibblelite now :-) > > > > But i have the same problem with another package : bibblepro > > http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12814 > > > > Could you remove it too ? > > > > Done. > Quick and efficient, that work :-) Thanks

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Re: [aur-general] Remove bad packages
by Mickaël l. 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

Le mardi 26 août 2008 à 14:47 +1000, Allan McRae a écrit : > The following packages are removed from the AUR filesystem so should be > able to be uploaded now: > > tomcat6 > jedit-devel > bibblelite > hal-policykit > bash_completion_lib > > Allan > > Thanks, that work for bibblelite now :-) But i have the same problem with another package : bibblepro http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12814 Could you remove it too ?

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[aur-general] Remove bad packages
by Vitaliy Berdinskikh 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

Hi archers! Who can remove two of my packages on AUR: tomcat6 and jedit-devel? These packages are broke. I can't update them. So remove them, please - I will upload. -- Sincerely yours, Vitaliy Berdinskikh (Виталий Бердинских) xmpp:vitaliy@berdinskikh.in.ua

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[aur-general] TU Vote: Stefan Husmann
by Ángel Velásquez 26 Aug '08

26 Aug '08

Hi TUs, This begins the 7 day voting thread for the addition of Stefan Husmann (StefanHusmann or haawda) as a TU. Please, dont forget to vote. You can see his introduction and the discussion period here: http://archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2008-August/008339.html You can vote using the web interface. Good Luck Stefan!! -- Angel Velásquez angvp @ irc.freenode.net Arch Linux Trusted User (TU) http://www.angvp.com

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[aur-general] Missing Packages
by aur-notify＠archlinux.org 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

Missing i686 Packages: No new package supplied for bakefile 0.2.3-1! No new package supplied for ejabberd 2.0.1-1! -- This is an automated message. If you wish to stop receiving it twice a day, fix the package(s).

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[aur-general] pdfsam in aur broken. I can't reupload the package.
by Tom 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, ...so i didn't know makepkg --source was broken and i've uploaded a source .tar.gz made with it. At first AUR only decompressed the PKGBUILD and not the other file which was a symbolick link actually, so because i didn't know what happened and I was suggested to, I've reupload it, so now the aur server has a pdfsam directory inside a pdfsam directory. Now i cannot do anything with that package, so it must be fixed inside the aur server internally. Could someone help and fix it so i can reupload a .tar.gz made with aurball this time? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkix5S8ACgkQRScp7ATOSDyLPQCg51XuzOkIKO0ftmGyW1hjLMHM ZxoAn3Gwf/Ac4/Dzi2UWMh6EHTJTQI0Z =ORVn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[aur-general] Something wrong about libgl, mesa
by zhengyi 25 Aug '08

25 Aug '08

Hi, In the pkg-config files( /usr/lib/pkgconfig/gl.pc etc.), the prefix is set as "/home/jan/svn/........." It is a local path of the computer of <jgc(a)archlinux.org> . I dare say that is wrong! When I run "pkg-config gl --cflags", it told me that wrong path. Would you re-make the packages(mesa libgl) ? Cheers!

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[aur-general] Hello (and kbib and yazpp packages)
by Peter Lewis 24 Aug '08

24 Aug '08

Hello! I'm pretty new to Arch, so thought I'd say hi. Also, I appear to have got involved in making pkgbuilds pretty soon too :-) I've taken over maintainership of KBib (a KDE bibliography manager) in the AUR, after an email exchange with the previous maintainer, who's no longer using Arch. I also had to create a pkgbuild for a depdenency, yaz++, the C++ bindings (so far as I can tell) for yaz, which is in community. They're both there under my name (petelewis) if anyone's interested. I'm not sure if the yaz maintainer might be interested in this... Anyway, so just thought I'd say hi, and if anyone has any feedback on these first two packages, that'd be much appreciated. :-) Pete.

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[aur-general] Remove package proposal
by Jozef K. 24 Aug '08

24 Aug '08

Hi, Please remove package 'arora-snapshot' from AUR repository Uploading this package was BIG stupid mistake. Thanks, jofko

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Re: [aur-general] [pacman-dev] makepkg 3.2.1 testing
by Xavier 24 Aug '08

24 Aug '08

On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Xavier <shiningxc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I am not sure that it is worth supporting the old DLAGENTS array for > this new filename feature, but at least makepkg should exit more > gracefully and warn about the problem. > Finally, it was easy enough to support both old and new DLAGENTS array. So with the attached makepkg, the new filename feature should work in every cases. As before, please report both positive and negative feedbacks :)

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