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[arch-general] AUR account creation issues
by Tegan Burns 27 Nov '17

27 Nov '17

arch-general, I was trying to register an account on aur.archlinux.org but I never received a confirmation email. I've tried to reset my password but never receive an email to do so. The email address is fine, I set up my Arch Wiki account moments before registering under AUR (confirmation and all). I was hoping to keep the same username across the forums, Wiki and AUR. At this point I don't see anything else I could do on my end. Is there a chance that an admin could look into the issue? I was instructed to post here via https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1751367 Thank you

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[arch-general] GDM/Lightdm and/or Gnome will not start
by Alan E. Davis 26 Nov '17

26 Nov '17

I'll try to give some background, because I do not have a really good idea why this is happening. It seemed to start when I tried to install Adobe-Digital-Editions (ADE), so I could read an ebook borrowed from the local public library. I installed wine, and attempted to install ADE. At the end of the install process, the console went into a kind of loop, with the same message repeated over and over in rapid succession. (I did not have the presence of mind to try to record this message). This through my session into a dysfunctional state, so I rebooted. Or restarted the display manager, I don't remember. Neither GDM nor Lightdm have started again, in a number of days. I was able to start i3 and xfce4, through startx with correct lines in .xinitrc. I uninstalled wine and ADE, then recently tried again to reinstall, with the thought this experience may have been a fluke. The same exact message popped up when executing "wine install.exe". This system is in pretty decent shape. It's been up running for many months, with quite a number of packages from the pacman distros as well as AUR; I have never had a serious problem that I could not easily figure out. Arch Linux has become my goto distro, as it just works, and maintainance is not a hugely time consuming or hit and miss affair as has been my experience with Gentoo. I have now installed manjaro and redcore, on the same laptop. I have removed Fedora 26, which turned quirky after a few weeks (which I installed so I would be able to advise a friend in the case of any troubles). Manjaro is easy to install; it's nice to be able to use AUR, but even if I avoid any wrinkles, it will take days to get this installation into shape. I come to you hoping for some light to be shed on this problem. At the bare minimum I would like to generate a list of installed packages of all kinds (AUR and pacman). I truly hope, however, to find the problem, and fix it. I can copy the files in my home directory, and copy them over to a new installation. d Does this description make any sense to someone? Thank you for reading this far. Alan Davis -- [Fill in the blanks] The use of corrupt manipulations and blatant rhetorical ploys ...--- outright lying, flagwaving, personal attacks, setting up phony alternatives, misdirection, jargon-mongering, evading key issues, feigning disinterested objectivity, willful misunderstanding of other points of view---suggests that ... lacks both credibility and evidence. ---- Edward Tufte (in context of making presentations)

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Re: [arch-general] Official repos package removal policies/best practices
by Štěpán Němec 20 Nov '17

20 Nov '17

On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 19:03:43 +0100 Morten Linderud wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 06:34:11PM +0100, Štěpán Němec wrote: [...] >> 1. >> What is the best way to find rationale about package removal or old >> package logs in general? E.g. pacolog doesn't work on st any more (I >> guess the logs are removed together with the package?) and even looking >> for the message linked above felt like there should be a better way. > > Looked at the pacolog source, it acts on the branch from the git.archlinux.org > website, this is essentially useless when the package is removed from the repos > as the website goes away with it. You could search the git logs on the > git.archlinux.org page, but thats tedious. I don't know of any better way sadly. > >> 2. >> If the commit message above is the only resource to be had, is there >> some kind of best practices concerning similar commit messages? I would >> have appreciated at least a short rationale for the removal being >> included. > > I honestly don't know if there is any policy regarding this, I shared the mail > to the other TUs and I'll see what they think. However! Yes, I agree. The commit > message is horrendous and I'll do better in the future! > >> 3. >> What was the rationale in this particular case? The st-git¹ AUR package >> seems quite popular, so I was surprised to see its non-vcs version >> removed from community (I would expect the opposite to happen for >> popular packages). >> >> ¹ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/st-git/ > > st is suppose to be compiled with your own config.h along with it. It hasn't > really had any release and after some discussion among other TUs, we decided to > drop both st and dwm for this reason. After some complaints on reddit[1] I > uploaded the old PKGBUILDs to AUR for the sake of being refferences. > > [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/7e52e4/st_package_removed/ > > I hope this answers your questions! Thank you very much for the information! (Note to self: have to search Reddit as well next time; Google seems not to have indexed the discussion there yet, although interestingly DuckDuckGo does, now I checked...) (Readding arch-general, for some reason the headers of my original message seem not to have made it through unmangled.) -- Štěpán

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[arch-general] Official repos package removal policies/best practices
by Štěpán Němec 20 Nov '17

20 Nov '17

Hello, I noticed the package st has been removed from the community repo and added to AUR. I was wondering why, but all I could find is this commit: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-commits/2017-November/434780.html I was also unable to find any information relating to the topic (cf. mail subject) on the Arch Wiki or general web, so I'd like to ask: 1. What is the best way to find rationale about package removal or old package logs in general? E.g. pacolog doesn't work on st any more (I guess the logs are removed together with the package?) and even looking for the message linked above felt like there should be a better way. 2. If the commit message above is the only resource to be had, is there some kind of best practices concerning similar commit messages? I would have appreciated at least a short rationale for the removal being included. 3. What was the rationale in this particular case? The st-git¹ AUR package seems quite popular, so I was surprised to see its non-vcs version removed from community (I would expect the opposite to happen for popular packages). ¹ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/st-git/ Thank you, Štěpán

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[arch-general] LUKS on LVM example in wiki
by Fons Adriaensen 19 Nov '17

19 Nov '17

I've been reading the section 'LUKS on LVM' in the wiki page <https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system> and there's something I fail to understand. Under 'Preparing the logical volumes', there is: # lvcreate -L 500M -n tmp MyVol (which isn't shown in the ascii picture just above). Later, under 'Configuring fstab and crypttab' a tmpfs is created on the encrypted /tmp partition: dev/mapper/tmp /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0 Question: as far as I've understood, a tmpfs resides in RAM, with overflow to /swap. So why is there a logical volume for /tmp ? Or put otherwise, if /tmp is to reside on disk, why use a tmpfs ? TIA, -- FA A world of exhaustive, reliable metadata would be an utopia. It's also a pipe-dream, founded on self-delusion, nerd hubris and hysterically inflated market opportunities. (Cory Doctorow)

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[arch-general] Archlinux + Retroarch + Vulkan + Mednafen PSX HW
by Maykel Franco 15 Nov '17

15 Nov '17

Hi, I have install archlinux,retroarch, mednafen psx hw (yaourt), ok. I have install vulkan-icd-loader, nvidia and nvidia-utils. I like use the emulator Mednafen HW with vulkan Driver. I try launch retroarch with vulkan video_driver but not works... [ERROR] [Vulkan]: Failed to set video mode. [ERROR] [Video]: Cannot open video driver ... Exiting ... [ERROR] Fatal error received in: "init_video()" .... [WARN] Couldn't find any previous driver (current one: "vulkan"). .... I searching google and I think my graphic card is incompatible... My graphic card is NVIDIA 560GTX Ti https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver Did I miss something?

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Switching the bugtracker to Bugzilla
by Leonidas Spyropoulos 14 Nov '17

14 Nov '17

- Replying on arch-general as don't have access on dev-public - I might have missed something or proposed something which is not feasible due to the fact I'm not vary familiar with Archlinux infrastructure. On 14/11/17, Jelle van der Waa wrote: > [..] > # Migration > > There are several options for migrating the bug history to Bugzilla and a few options are under > debate. (input welcome) > > * No migration at all > * Migrate open bugs > * Migrate open bugs and auto-closing them > * Migrate all bugs > * Migrate all bugs and auto-closing them > No migration & keep flyspray as read-only. People can still reference flyspray bus and copy attachments around. It would be a good clean up for open bugs which are not-reproducable or irrelevant now. > # User migration > > User migration should be possible as well, except migrating the password, a mass password reset > would be wise. Since I'm not sure what kind of old hashing method / salt flyspray uses. > Yes, although this might complicate a bit if/when LDAP auth comes in place (since it will mean another migration - not sure). > # Migration Projects > > Bugzilla has a concept of products with components, so for all our packages we can create a > component counterpart. It should be possible to auto-assign bugs with the pkgname <-> maintainer > information from archweb. > > Possible products would be. > > # Products > > * Arch packages (core/extra or split this up) > * Community packages (community) > * Pacman > * AURWeb > * Keyring > * Archweb (new) > * Arch VM / Docker images (new) > * Release engineering > Bugzilla products / components: * Core packages * <one compoment per package> * Extra packages * same as above * Community packages * same as above * One product per "Arch Linux Projects" repo in projects.archlinux.org * AURWeb * Archweb * bbs * wiki (did I miss something here?) * Infrastructure * Arch VM * Docker * <server purpose> admin/maintenance * Release engineering Thanks -- Leonidas Spyropoulos A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is it such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

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[arch-general] Perl Help?
by Hunter Jozwiak 12 Nov '17

12 Nov '17

Hi gang, I got bit by Perl this morning after I did an update. I got an error about having a handshake error with ListUtil.c, and I don't know how to resolve this error. I can't open cpan, launch Chromium, and I'm not sure what all else is broken at this point. Can someone help me towards a solution? Thanks, Hunter

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[arch-general] Cannot delete chroot directory
by Simon Doppler 08 Nov '17

08 Nov '17

Hi all, I wanted to create a new build chroot directory with mkarchroot yesterday, and mistakenly created it in the wrong place. I then interrupted the process but after it had already created some files but was not finished. (I wanted to created in ~/chroot/multlib, but wrote ~/multilib). When I tried to delete the directory (with rm -rf) but I could only delete all the files it contained. It did not work either after a reboot. This is my terminal output when I try to delete the directory [root@tollana dopsi]# LANG=en rm -rf /home/dopsi/multilib rm: cannot remove '/home/dopsi/multilib': Operation not permitted [root@tollana dopsi]# lsattr | grep multilib ------------------- ./multilib I noticed in [1] (the lock function is defined in [2]) that the directory is locked using flock, but that lock should not survive a reboot (or am I mistaken ?). Thanks for your help [1] https://git.archlinux.org/devtools.git/tree/mkarchroot.in#n66 [2] https://git.archlinux.org/devtools.git/tree/lib/common.sh#n75 -- Simon Doppler E: dopsi(a)dopsi.ch PGP: 5C3A 7347 AE06 D520 68A6 D292 9A08 963D B82F 5A19

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[arch-general] Problem wifi connect disconnect
by Maykel Franco 05 Nov '17

05 Nov '17

Hi, I have this network wifi card: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 (rev 3a) I have xiaomi mi air 13 laptop. The network wifi card works successfull until a few days ago update archlinux: I see this errors: https://pastebin.com/vfM21dA2 I have other devices connect to my router and works fine. How can I fix? Thanks in advanced.

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