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[arch-general] Telinit?
by David Rosenstrauch 23 Aug '20

23 Aug '20

Anyone know what happened to the "telinit" shortcut? It used to be included in systemd-sysvcompat (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#systemd-sysvcompat) but seems like it recently got removed. Was it removed upstream? (And if so, anyone know why?) Thanks, DR

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[arch-general] pacman -Syu -- Applying kernel sysctl settings... Not setting ... Worry?
by David C. Rankin 22 Aug '20

22 Aug '20

Arch devs, For the past several updates, I have noticed the kernel sysctl settings messages saying: ( 5/17) Applying kernel sysctl settings... Not setting net/ipv4/conf/all/rp_filter (explicit setting exists). Not setting net/ipv4/conf/default/rp_filter (explicit setting exists). Not setting net/ipv4/conf/all/accept_source_route (explicit setting exists). Not setting net/ipv4/conf/default/accept_source_route (explicit setting exists). Not setting net/ipv4/conf/all/promote_secondaries (explicit setting exists). Not setting net/ipv4/conf/default/promote_secondaries (explicit setting exists). After the recent netctl message issue, I want to nail down what set these in /proc and whether it is something I need to do something about. I didn't set any of these specifically, so I presume they are either explicit settings made during the kernel build or they were set somewhere long ago by some previous Arch default. In either case, if there were no issues, I wouldn't expect pacman to go out of its way to tell me about them if nothing needs to be done. Though I can also see the messages just being some default behavior of whatever the kernel sysctl hook is warning about choices that are explicitly set. Do I need to do anything about these? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] No login after update
by Manuel Reimer 21 Aug '20

21 Aug '20

Hello, I know that Arch is not for the "average user" and some background knowledge is expected, but this was the first time I needed a boot stick since I think at least one year. Some minutes ago I did a regular system update and after that decided to reboot. After reboot I was unable to log into my system. After fiddling a bit I rebooted to an Arch boot stick to find the following message in pacman.log: [2020-08-19T20:42:55+0200] [ALPM] warning: /etc/pam.d/system-login installed as /etc/pam.d/system-login.pacnew As this seemed to be a candidate that may cause login problems, I deleted "system-login" and moved the ".pacnew" into place. After reboot I'm now able to log in again... IMHO something like this should not happen... Maybe it's worth a note on the Arch homepage that it is important to move this pacnew into place before reboot? Manuel

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Re: [arch-general] HP Laserjet plus 1020 Problem
by das 21 Aug '20

21 Aug '20

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 7:04 PM Rafael Fontenelle <rafaelff(a)gnome.org> wrote: > Have you tried installing the "hplip" package, which provides PPD for > your printer? > > Installing removing reinstalling hplip -- nothing worked. Ok, as you suggest I will now explore the ArchWiki links you have provided. -- দাস das http://ddts.randomink.org/ -- দাশ das http://ddts.randomink.org/

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[arch-general] netcl leaves network down until reenable performed - do we need note?
by David C. Rankin 21 Aug '20

21 Aug '20

Archdevs, I have two computers using netctl, one for a static and one for a dhcp address. After the last update on May, 3, netctl (1.22-1 -> 1.23-1) all remained fine and old profiles generated as subservices in /etc/systemd/system, such as: netctl\(a)rlf_network\\x2dstatic.service continued to bring the network up. However within the past week there was a change, likely to systemd 246, that no longer respects the subservices originally created by netctl. Now attempting at reboot causes the network to fail completely. Not good for remotely adminned boxes. What is required is a "reenable" of the netctl profile. Doing so will remove the old subservice and symlinks and replace then with a directory in /etc/systemd/system of same name as the old subservice, but with a ".d" appended that now contains a "profile.conf", e.g. netctl(a)rlf_network\x2dstatic.service.d/ └── profile.conf However, there is no note or warning during update that any manual intervention will be needed. That will leave anyone adminning a remote arch install with netctl with a box that is unreachable and has no network. Shouldn't there be a warning about this change generated on update? Arch is always pretty good about warning when manual interaction is required -- and this is a biggie. Couldn't there also be a post install that does a reenable for each netctl profile found in /etc/systemd/system as another option to avoid this SNAFU? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Gaetan Bisson Resignation
by Amin Vakil 20 Aug '20

20 Aug '20

Hello, I'm not an Arch Linux Developer myself, so I'm not allowed to reply to this email on arch-dev-public. But just out of curiosity and to learn something, would you care to share with us what majority's views is in conflict with your views? Best Regards, Amin Vakil On 8/20/20 3:13 AM, Gaetan Bisson via arch-dev-public wrote: > Dear all, > > I've joined the Arch team in 2010 and spent a decade as a developer; > it's been a great privilege to be a part of such an awesome community > and also a lot of fun. However I felt the ten-year mark was a good > opportunity for me to move on since I recognize the majority's views on > the future of the distro have of late steadily been diverging from mine. > > And thus I hereby resign my position of Arch Linux Developer. > > All the best in your future endeavors! >

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[arch-general] Does PAM 1.4.0 require rebuilding all application / modules using libpam?
by Amish 20 Aug '20

20 Aug '20

Hello, I have few packages (eg. pam_geoip, pam_abl) in custom repo which use libpam. Can someone clarify if PAM upgrade to 1.4.0 would require those packages to be rebuilt? I have few systems using those PAM modules and if those modules break after updating and rebooting then I will lose access to the system. And I do not want to end up in that situation. Since I haven't seen mass-rebuilt of other modules (like pam-krb5, pam_mount etc.), I think rebuild is not required. But would still like if some developer can confirm before I upgrade. Thank you, Amish.

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[arch-general] pam-1.3.1-2 -> 1.4.0-3 breaking change
by Damjan Georgievski 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

it seems the 1.4.0-3 removed the tally/tally2 modules and (for some reason) I had `auth required pam_tally2.so` in /etc/pam.d/system-login. Of course that broke the login and I had to rescue the installation from a bootable USB. I wonder if there can be some pam-lint tool that checks your /etc/pam.d/ after upgrades. -- damjan

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Re: [arch-general] HP Laserjet plus 1020 Problem
by das 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

Dear friend Karx asked me to try to print something and then give the differences in the three files in /var/log/cups. I tried to print one page from Libreoffice Writer and here is the result of running diff for the old and new versions of the three files for the three files. For access_log the difference is: 186,195d185 < localhost - - [19/Aug/2020:20:10:02 +0530] "POST /printers/HP-LaserJet-1020 HTTP/1.1" 200 215 Create-Job successful-ok < localhost - - [19/Aug/2020:20:10:02 +0530] "POST /printers/HP-LaserJet-1020 HTTP/1.1" 200 29704 Send-Document successful-ok < localhost - - [19/Aug/2020:20:10:24 +0530] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 151 Cancel-Job client-error-not-found < localhost - - [19/Aug/2020:20:10:24 +0530] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 151 Cancel-Job client-error-not-found < localhost - - [19/Aug/2020:20:10:24 +0530] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 151 Cancel-Job client-error-not-found < localhost - - [19/Aug/2020:20:10:24 +0530] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 151 Cancel-Job client-error-not-found < localhost - - [19/Aug/2020:20:10:24 +0530] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 151 Cancel-Job client-error-not-found < localhost - - [19/Aug/2020:20:10:24 +0530] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 151 Cancel-Job client-error-not-found < localhost - - [19/Aug/2020:20:10:24 +0530] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 151 Cancel-Job client-error-not-found < localhost - - [19/Aug/2020:20:10:24 +0530] "POST /jobs/ HTTP/1.1" 200 151 Cancel-Job client-error-not-found ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- error_log -- no difference ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ page_log -- no difference

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[arch-general] HP Laserjet plus 1020 Problem
by das 19 Aug '20

19 Aug '20

Dear Friends My new printer HP Laserjet plus 1020 is not working on Arch Linux, while it is working fine on the second boot Debian system. I have tried all the ways that came to my mind or all the suggestions from the Net. It is not working. Can any of you suggest anything? With Regards Dipankar Das -- দাশ das http://ddts.randomink.org/

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