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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [Draft] MariaDB 10.0 enters [extra]
by Genes Lists 24 May '14

24 May '14

On 05/17/2014 08:40 AM, Bartłomiej Piotrowski wrote: > Hi guys, > > New MariaDB is sitting in [testing] for a while now. It's temporarily This does trigger this warning in postfix's postmap program: postmap: /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.18: no version information available (required by postmap) Do you know if there is something I need to do on my end to make this go away? So far that's the only thing I've noticed in testing it. thanks. gene

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[arch-general] [Proposal] add python 3 support for gvim in [extra]
by Thomas Dziedzic 22 May '14

22 May '14

Hey all, I would like to add progress to the bug "FS#34397 - [gvim] has --disable-python3interp" [0]. I feel like it's about time to start looking into supporting python 3 in gvim. After some research, it looks like it would be problematic to support both python versions compiled into the same vim version. That said, python2 seems to still be the primary target of most vim plugins. Though a lot of these plugins also support python 3 at the same time. Currently there is no obvious "right" answer to which python version we should support since python2 obviously has the most support, but on the other hand, we should support the latest version of python since that is where the future lies. This proposal is to keep the existing vim/gvim packages in [extra], but add a 3rd split version called gvim-python3 or just gvim-python which would provide the exact same features as gvim except with python 3 support instead of python 2. This would allow the community to start experimenting with python 3 support and start reporting any issues to upstream vim plugins. While allowing users that don't really want to live on the edge to still use gvim as they previously had been using it. Eventually I would like to replace gvim with the python 3 version and provide a gvim-python2 version so that the default becomes python 3 but we would still provide a python 2 version for people that still need it. After some more time, I would like to eventually drop gvim-python2 to the aur and only support the python 3 version. I still don't know when these switches will happen, but for now, I would like to take the first step. It also seems that there is a python 3 version of gvim available in the aur [1]. Hopefully this would allow more people to experiment with python 3 support by removing the need to compile it and have it in supported repos. What do yall think? [0] - https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/34397 [1] - https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gvim-python/

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[arch-general] Cantata gives error after Qt-5.3 upgrade
by Savyasachee Jha 21 May '14

21 May '14

After updating to qt 5.3 in [testing], I found that cantata does not start up. Upon running from the terminal, I get the error: $ cantata This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb". Available platform plugins are: eglfs, kms, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl, offscreen, xcb. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem. However, reinstalling did not fix the problem. Downgrading qt to the version 5.2.1 in [extra] did. I believe that recompiling "cantata" with qt 5.3 might be required? Thanks! -- Savyasachee Jha *"Aerodynamics is for people whodon't know how to build engines."*

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[arch-general] virtualize a w8 ntfs partition and run w8 inside Arch
by arnaud gaboury 21 May '14

21 May '14

I dual boot Arch and w8 in EFI mode with rEFInd. Both Os are on the same ssd, with a ESP partition. Now I am looking to allow Arch users to run a virtualized version of the w8 already installed. The idea is to keep the dual boot option and allow the use of the installed w8 from Arch.I want to run within Arch a real "copy" of w8. In short, when changes are made or new apps are installed from w8 boot, I want to be sure these changes will be taken into account in the virtualized w8. It seems to me the QEMU arch wiki part [1] : Using any real partition as the single primary partition of a hard disk image will do what I am willing for. Am I right? If yes, is there any workaround to use the ESP partition of my ssd instead of creating a MBR like suggested in the WIKI ? Thank you for help and tips. [1]https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/QEMU

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[arch-general] moving warmux to unsupported
by Laurent Carlier 20 May '14

20 May '14

I will move warmux to AUR; it doesn't build anymore and is dead upstream Package pushed to AUR will be monolithic: warmux-data won't exist anymore. -- Laurent Carlier ArchLinux Developer http://www.archlinux.org

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[arch-general] Why is it dangerous to run makepkg as root?
by Roland Tapken 19 May '14

19 May '14

Hi, I'm using arch for about half a year on a few systems, but every time I install something from aur I'm asking myself one question: Why is it considered dangerous to run makepkg as root? My first guess was that the PKGBUILD usually comes from an untrusted source and may contain code to attack my system (copy personal data or install a rootkit or something like that). But on the other hand, this file tells makepkg how to build the package that will be installed as root, so if the author of the PKGBUILD has bad purposes he will just put that code into the created package. The second idea is that this advice should prevent the script from *accidentally* damage my system. But this could be prevented by using fakeroot (which is disabled when calling makepkg with --asroot according to the manpage) or chroot. And actually the proper advice in this case should be to execute makepkg using a user dedicated for this, as for most arch users it would be worse if their personal file get deleted as if the system becomes unbootable. Regards, Roland

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[arch-general] systemd-journald taking too much memory
by Ondřej Kučera 19 May '14

19 May '14

Hello, from time to time, Thunderbird crashes on my computer. It doesn't happen all that often and so far I haven't lost any data, so this actually doesn't bother me that much. But, when it happens, suddenly the process systemd-journald starts allocating more and more memory (this last time it went up to 1.3 GB), which makes the computer start swapping and for a few minutes it becomes quite unusable. I have no idea what journald is trying to log at that moment. This is what I found in the journal afterwards (also notice that last lines are out of order): May 19 10:24:18 rory systemd-journal[7906]: Permanent journal is using 28.0M (max allowed 15.0M, trying to leave 4.0G free of 131.5G available → current limit 28.0M). May 19 10:24:19 rory systemd[1]: Starting Journal Service... May 19 10:24:19 rory systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service stop-sigterm timed out. Killing. May 19 10:24:19 rory systemd[1]: Starting Journal Service... May 19 10:24:19 rory systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service: main process exited, code=killed, status=9/KILL May 19 10:24:19 rory systemd[1]: Unit systemd-journald.service entered failed state. May 19 10:24:19 rory systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service has no holdoff time, scheduling restart. May 19 10:24:19 rory systemd[1]: Stopping Journal Service... May 19 10:24:19 rory systemd[1]: Starting Journal Service... May 19 10:24:19 rory systemd[1]: Started Journal Service. May 19 10:24:19 rory systemd-journal[7906]: Journal started May 19 10:22:31 rory systemd[1]: systemd-journald.service watchdog timeout! May 19 10:24:05 rory systemd[1]: Starting Trigger Flushing of Journal to Persistent Storage... May 19 10:24:08 rory systemd[1]: Started Trigger Flushing of Journal to Persistent Storage. Is there a journald setting I could use to prevent this huge memory allocation? Ondřej -- Greetings, Ondřej Kučera

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Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on aWindows8 UEFI laptop
by Mark Lee 17 May '14

17 May '14

Salutations, If you set up your efistub correctly, you will be able to boot Arch or Windows using the Uefi boot manager, same system as how you get the option to boot off a USB stick. UEFI removes the needs for boot managers. Regards, Man k -----Original Message----- From: "Alan E. Davis" <lngndvs(a)gmail.com> Sent: ‎5/‎1/‎2014 9:09 PM To: "General Discussion about Arch Linux" <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on aWindows8 UEFI laptop I have never seen an option to boot the Arch iso using eufi boot. I may not have said that I want to dual boot. I do need to do so. If I boot directly back into Arch, will there be an option do dual boot? (Actually triple boot for the time being.) Alan Davis On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Mark Lee <mark(a)markelee.com> wrote: > Salutations, > > Okay. Try starting ove again. Boot into the arch iso using uefi boot > (preferably but not necessary). Then set up your partitions (root, home). > For boot, mount the windows EFI system partition as /boot. Then install the > system. You won't need to install grub or gummiboot since you can boot the > efistub directly. I would create a folder in /boot named "arch". I would > then copy the *.img from /boot to /boot/arch and rename the vmlinuz-Linux > to vmlinuz-linux.efi. If you booted into uefi mode from the Arch iso, you > should be able to run efibootmgr. Run efibootmgr to see what entries you > have (you should at least have the windows entry). Then type something like > this : efibootmgr -d <efi disk id ( probably /dev/sda) -p <parition # > (probably 1> -L "Arch Linux UEFI" -l /arch/vmlinux-Linux.efi -u > "root=<location of root> initramfs=/arch/initramfs.img rw quiet" -w. You > should be able to reboot if all went well and you will boot into Arch Linux. > > Regards, > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Alan E. Davis" <lngndvs(a)gmail.com> > Sent: ‎5/‎1/‎2014 8:07 PM > To: "General Discussion about Arch Linux" <arch-general(a)archlinux.org> > Subject: Re: [arch-general] Installing Archlinux alongside Ubuntu on a > Windows8 UEFI laptop > > I don't understand what is the entry, or fallback entry, or "run the > entry." I'm sorry. > > I'm going to try again later. In fact, I may take the undesireable step of > installing from Manjaro or whatever is the shortcut way to install Arch > Linux these days. > > On the one hand, I don't care to learn about what's Micro$oft's latest > tortuous trick it has played on the users; and on the other hand, I do > value to learn the nuts and bolts of GNU/Linux. > > Thank you very much. I am willing to give it one more try. I might even > try to install grub in a partition, as apparently is what Ubuntu has > done. > > Thank you again, > > Alan Davis > > > On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Daniel Micay <danielmicay(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > On 01/05/14 07:40 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > > > I took a chance, and nothing happened. I installed gummiboot on > /boot, > > > where the kernel was. But I didn't move the ubuntu kernel over. > > > > > > In the end, Windows still booted, and I was able to get back to a boot > > menu > > > from there, and boot ubuntu. Not Arch. Yet. > > > > > > Thank you for now. > > > > > > Alan > > > > You need to explicitly run the entry (if you had the EFI stuff mounted) > > or the fallback entry (if you didn't). > > > > >

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[arch-general] asroot
by Mr Green 17 May '14

17 May '14

'--asroot' option has recently been removed. https://projects.archlinux.org/pacman.git/commit/?id=61ba5c961e4a3536c4bbf4… Need to check if arch-install-media runs as root, know of course you could add user but it might make things a little difficult if you need an aur application (such as broadcom-wl). MrG

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[arch-general] No usb keyboard in early userspace
by Javier Vasquez 16 May '14

16 May '14

Hi, With recent linux "3.14.4-1" I can no longer use the keyboard in early userspace, like providing the password for encrypted disk. I do have, and has had the keyboard hook on mkinitcpio.conf. I didn't have problems with any of the 3.13.* linux images, this is new after installation of 3.14.4. BTW, this is a laptop, and the laptop integrated keyboard fortunatelly is working. Anyone aware? Thanks, -- Javier.

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