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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] phoronix: Is Arch faster than Ubuntu?
by Xavier Chantry 19 May '10

19 May '10

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Dan McGee <dpmcgee(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Came across my reader today >>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_arch_faster&num=1 >>> >>> Pretty neat. >> >> Showing boot-up time and other more noticeable waits would be a much >> better comparison; I think the benchmarks are not why people think >> Arch feels faster. > > Right but the reason I think this is interesting is that the data > shows it is "feels faster" not "is faster". > I basically agree with everything that was said and will try to re-conciliate the different opinions : 1. This benchmark is not particularly useful, as we are often used with Phoronix. They are often not well chosen and/or with bad interpretation, so it often annoys people who know better about a specific software/project. 2. Phoronix's benchmarks have the merit to exist and to provide facts, as opposed to many users who claims X is faster than Y, and NEVER provide any facts/numbers/benchmarks, even when specifically asked. I saw it happening many times in Arch community over the time, so now we at least have some data to show them. So I would still thank phoronix for providing benchmarking tools and results, which are definitely useful and needed. IMO the most interesting benchmarks are the ones comparing different versions of the same software, but this would also better be made in collaboration with upstream developers, as these are probably the only people able to really make sense and explain results. In any cases, thanks for the link Aaron :)

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[arch-general] Article about aircrack in the wiki
by Karol Babioch 19 May '10

19 May '10

Hi, I don't know whether my memory is right on that, but as far as I can remember there was an article in the wiki describing how to setup and use the aircrack- ng suite. I can't find this one anymore :(. Therefore I suppose it has been deleted. Am I right on this? If so, was there any specific reason? Any legal issues? I can't imagine that nobody has written an article about these tools. Is it safe to do so, or are there any concerns that should discourage me? I'm not a lawyer, but as there is a quite good documentation on the project site (http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=getting_started) it can't be that critical, can it? Normally you always have the possibility to say that you want to use it for educational purposes at home, at least from what I'm aware of. So is there any specific reason why there isn't such an article yet (but my memory tells me that there was one :)), or hasn't anyone thought of this until now? -- Best regards, Karol Babioch

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[arch-general] pkg-proxy ?
by Andre "Osku" Schmidt 19 May '10

19 May '10

Hi, i would like to experiment with (semi) automatic installation and configuration of my arch system(s). and to make it more faster i would like to setup a "pkg-proxy". on debian there are many tools for this http://www.debian-administration.org/polls/139 but i would rather not yet use squid (too much hassle) ;) at the moment i would use it on my host system, serving packages for vm clients. (when i get more money/hardware, i would try squid as transparent proxy) so, is there a tool for arch linux that caches arch packages, and which i can use as proxy in the arch installer and beyond. thanks .andre

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[arch-general] NFS v3 file locking issue with OpenOffice
by Andreas Radke 19 May '10

19 May '10

Am Thu, 13 May 2010 16:37:49 +0200 schrieb Andreas Radke <a.radke(a)arcor.de>: > upstream update 2.6.32.13. our gcc4.5 patch went upstream. > > -Andy > Since I've updated my server from .27 lts kernel to .32 series I've run into a small but annoying issue. I'm running nfs v3 nothing special. my options in /etc/exports: /path/to/share IP(rw,async,no_root_squash) OpenOffice is no more able to open files in writable mode. Somehow the server fails to lock the file properly and OOo refuses to safe files / refused to open files in writable mode. It seems there have been file locking issues in the past with OOo and some other apps http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/bugs/openoffice-over-nfs.jspx It happens with our Arch OOo pkg and also with a client running Ubuntu Lucid here. I'd rather like to fix this and don't want to step up to nfs v4 right now. Can somebody confirm my locking issue and that it's caused by .32 kernels? Any idea how to solve it? -Andy

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[arch-general] kernel 2.6.34-1
by Tobias Powalowski 19 May '10

19 May '10

Hi guys, kernel 2.6.34 first test run ... Upstream changes: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges Arch Linux bugfixes/feature requests: # added manpages and documents as separate package http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17892 Arch Linux changes: - nouveau module moved into kernel tree, all nvidia binary packages include now a blacklist_nouveau.conf file, to avoid loading of nouveau module, instead of nvidia module. Broken binary modules: - fcpci,fcpcmcia,slmodem though no fix available yet. Enjoy have fun and give me feedback, greetings tpowa -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] PulseAudio package group
by Jan Steffens 19 May '10

19 May '10

I could make PulseAudio installation significantly easier by putting specially-built packages (e.g. sdl-pulse, openal-pulse) into [community] and grouping them in a "pulse" group. This group would also include a "pulse-asoundrc" package containing a pulse-configured asound.conf, as well as depending on alsa-plugins. Should I go ahead with this? Any suggestions?

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[arch-general] Fwd: testing kernel crashes on bootup
by Tobias Powalowski 19 May '10

19 May '10

---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ---------- Betreff: testing kernel crashes on bootup Datum: Dienstag 18 Mai 2010, 23:57:44 Von: Kris <kfs1(a)online.no> An: t.powa(a)gmx.de on i686. kernel 2.6.34. just replying to this: http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2010-May/016872.html image of crash: http://imgur.com/RDLN5 ------------------------------------------------------------- -- Tobias Powalowski Archlinux Developer & Package Maintainer (tpowa) http://www.archlinux.org tpowa(a)archlinux.org

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[arch-general] starting network:fail[eth0 wasn't connected] How to enable without reboot?
by Joe(theWordy)Philbrook 19 May '10

19 May '10

Currently my pc is a laptop. I don't use a wireless interface. I connect to the Internet via cable broadband with a wired Ethernet connection and DHCP... This id very reliable. I can usually disconnect the laptop from the Ethernet cable and bring it into the livingroom for various offline use. Then when I bring it back to my desk, all I usually have to to is plug the Ethernet cable back in and wait a few seconds and the Internet will start to work again. BUT that is contingent on the Ethernet cable having been connected during boot up. So if for example I were to boot up my laptop in the livingroom where there isn't an Ethernet connection the boot process will delay at the point where it's screen message says its starting the network. Then it says it failed and continues setting everything else up. At this point, if I bring the laptop back to the desk, and plug in the Ethernet cable, it doesn't automatically connect. I tried: # ifconfig eth0 up but ping still doesn't find my ISP What am I missing???? -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp(a)ttlc.net>>

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[arch-general] Fw: A question regarding the ifdplug and wireless interfaces
by Keith Hinton 19 May '10

19 May '10

Hopefully this gets to you folks. In edition, I've insured that this will be in plain-text, I received a content type was not allowed error message previously. thanks! Regards, --Keith From: Keith Hinton Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:21 AM To: Arch-General Subject: A question regarding the ifdplug and wireless interfaces Hi all, I have an interesting setup presently. One of these days I hope to move permanently to Arch-however, I'm on Windows presently so am running Arch in a VMware virtual machine by using VMware workstation 7 on Windows. I still do make use of tools such as the NetCFG tool, especially. As a blind Arch user, and one who does a lot of repetitive tasks, I like the use of netcfg personally. I have used it, especially rather than say, configuring WPA_Supplicant manually, even after reading all the documentation. While I do appreciate and value Arch Linux for most of the manual configuration, I still believe in my heart that automation of some tasks is an okay thing to do. What do you folks think? I for instance, tend to love pre-configuring specific files, such as Pacman.conf, and other various small files, and just cary them on a small USB 4GB thumb-drive of mine. That way, if and when I install Arch regardless of a VM or real environment, I have the various files to work with a head of time, already configured by me in the first place, avoiding the need to do that all over again. Usually, after that, I just need to cp the files for use in whatever they're intended to be used for. My first question though is this: does the ifdplug interface tool only work with Ethernet cards? Or is wireless Ethernet cards also supported? Also, when it comes to Arch and the various uses of the system environment, how was Arch designed so as to be so flexible? It amazes me at how light Arch Linux really is-it performed without a problem on my Intel Pentium III, 930MHZ, 256MB RAM Del desktop computer for two years. Of course, at the time I had a secondary Windows machine for the tools I use like Skype, that still remain unaccessible to the blind/visually impared community, whare as Skype in windows/Apple Mac remains the most accessible. Similar issues of accessibility/bugs occur in Mozilla's Firefox. presently, I find that Arch is one of the most interesting distrobutions of Linux available out there. Thanks for making such a fine distro, and I hope that you folks continue to develop Arch as you folks have for the passed what..99 years? LOL. Have fun, and happy Arching. If you folks wish to chat with me-you can occasionally find me on irc.freenode.net #ArchLinux as Keith-BlindUser For you Archers that use Twitter, if you wish to contact me that way besides the Arch-General or Arch-Releng mailing lists or Irc, you may follow keithint1234 on Twitter. Or send me an email off-list if you want at: keithint1234(a)gmail.com I can be reached on Skype by adding skypedude1234 to your Skype contacts lists. Thanks! Regards, --Keith

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[arch-general] nut-2.4.3-1 still having problems with usbhid-ups driver after update to kernel26-2.6.33.4-1
by David C. Rankin 18 May '10

18 May '10

Listmates, The network-ups-tools-2.4.3-1 package is still having problems with the usbhid-ups driver. I opened http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/19351 on 5/3, but it still isn't assigned to anyone. I don't know if that's normal or not? After update to kernel26-2.6.33.4-1, I thought I would re-try network-ups-tools-2.4.3-1 to see if it might have been related to the last kernel. No luck, the current nut package fails in the same way. Returning to network-ups-tools-2.4.1-2, it works fine with kernel26-2.6.33.4-1. I have specified the details and log errors in task/19351 and updated it with the latest info after install of kernel26-2.6.33.4-1. Is there anything else you would like me to provide? If so, just let me know. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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