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Re: [arch-general] A suggestion for the devs regarding rebuilds
by Nagy Gabor 09 Feb '10

09 Feb '10

Allan McRae wrote: >> With every big rebuilds we get new breakage stories. It seems like >> it's the norm nowadays rather than the exception. >> >> I am wondering if it's really only the users that are to blame.. or if >> Arch is also to blame. Or if Arch was supposed to be an elitist >> distribution and is victim of its success. >I think the answer to that is in the question: What did we do different >previously that resulted in far less of these issues? >My impression is that nothing has particularly change in terms of how >rebuilds are handled. If anything, the whole process has become a lot >more streamlined and cases of missing a package rebuild are now almost >non-existent. >So the cause must be... A change in user-base? Maybe just an increase in >user-base resulting in more people who think Arch should be done their >way and not the Arch way? Well, I think this viewpoint is too elitist... I am not sure that you should blame users who just read http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_Configuration#LCD_filter_patched_p… and who don't even know that cairo is a dependency of gtk2. (Come on, do you know well every installed library on your system?) And with broken cairo the user just gets "fav_gtk_app: error while loading shared libraries...", so it requires a little bit sophisticated bug-hunting. I just mention the "-Sy system_breaker_package" issue again, where sodepends or libpng14 could help. I know that these system breakages require some user fault too, but I think the main purpose of pacman (should be) to not allow break our system. If I accepted your standpoint as a solution, I would suggest to not use %CONFLICTS% array or versioned dependencies ;-) (Because "elite" users should know that foo conflicts with bar, and all his packages [dependencies] should be always up-to-date...) Bye

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[arch-general] library version conflict -- how does Arch solve this ?
by fons＠kokkinizita.net 08 Feb '10

08 Feb '10

Hello all, Today I installed Latex (texlive). Doing this installed new versions of libpng and libjpeg, and this broke emacs, xv and gnuplot (and maybe others I haven't discovered yet). I was able to make xv work again by removing and re-installing it. This didn't help for emacs, but adding a symbolic link in /usr/lib (to the wrong library !!!) made it work again. But I've been unable to get gnuplot working again, and this is one of my most essential tools. So what's the Arch way to solve this ? I find it extremely strange that updating a library removes the original - never seen this on any other distro. Nor is there any need to do this. Ciao, -- FA O tu, che porte, correndo si ? E guerra e morte !

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[arch-general] kde4 color-schemes posted at kde-look in the interim
by David C. Rankin 08 Feb '10

08 Feb '10

Guys, Just dropping a note that the BlackGold, DeepBlueGold, and DarkRedGold color-schemes that I'm working on packaging here were posted to kde-look.org as well. The urls are: (BlackGold) http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=119891 (DarkRedGold) http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=119848 (DeepBlueGold) http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=119887 Take a look if you are interested. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Problem with sa-update up when updating spamassassin
by David C. Rankin 08 Feb '10

08 Feb '10

Guys, I had a problem while updating spamassassin. Running the sa-update app as specified in the package dependencies results in a 404 error from the site the script attempts to connect to. Dunno if it's SA or if there was a type in the package concerning the URL. Here is the dependency and the result: (19/22) upgrading spamassassin [####################################################] 100% You must run 'sa-update' to install spam rules before use. For detailed upgrade notes, see: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/tags/spamassassin_current_rele… 23:49 archangel:~> sudo sa-update http: GET http://www.sa-update.pccc.com/903765.tar.gz request failed: 404 Not Found: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <TITLE>404 Not Found</TITLE> </HEAD><BODY> <H1>Not Found</H1> The requested URL /903765.tar.gz was not found on this server.<P> <HR> <ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.41 Server at www.sa-update.pccc.com Port 80</ADDRESS> </BODY></HTML> The site itself is there, but has no index and denies browsing. Just thought I would pass it along. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Pacman trigger
by Nilesh Govindarajan 07 Feb '10

07 Feb '10

Is there some app that will do some actions on updating some software ? Like for example, I want that in /usr/lib/firefox-<version>/defaults/preferences/firefox.js user agent is set to Firefox/<version> instead of its brand name ? Or copy the previous version of kernel to /boot/stable before update ? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Adminstrator www.itech7.com

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[arch-general] Memory Management problems with 2.6.32
by Gaurish Sharma 07 Feb '10

07 Feb '10

Hi, I am using ArchlInux 64bit 2.6.32.7-1. but having some memory allocation errors, mplayer: page allocation failure. order:4, mode:0xd4 Pid: 4380, comm: mplayer Not tainted 2.6.32-ARCH #1 Call Trace: [<ffffffff810dad58>] ? __alloc_pages_nodemask+0x6b8/0x700 [<ffffffff810dadb2>] ? __get_free_pages+0x12/0x60 [<ffffffffa04bc8e0>] ? oss_contig_malloc+0x50/0xa0 [osscore] [<ffffffffa04bdbed>] ? __oss_alloc_dmabuf+0x7d/0x100 [osscore] [<ffffffffa04e7975>] ? vmix_alloc_buffer+0x75/0x80 [osscore] [<ffffffffa04c7ec8>] ? init_dmap+0x168/0x1e0 [osscore] [<ffffffffa04cb27b>] ? oss_audio_open_engine+0x41b/0x760 [osscore] [<ffffffffa04cb84d>] ? oss_audio_open_devfile+0x28d/0x370 [osscore] [<ffffffffa04be564>] ? oss_cdev_open+0x124/0x160 [osscore] [<ffffffff81117b1a>] ? cdev_get+0xaa/0x160 [<ffffffff81104ee9>] ? shmem_get_acl+0x49/0x90 [<ffffffff81117f58>] ? chrdev_open+0x168/0x2c0 [<ffffffff81117df0>] ? chrdev_open+0x0/0x2c0 [<ffffffff8111266f>] ? __dentry_open+0x14f/0x400 [<ffffffff8111e0ce>] ? inode_permission+0xbe/0xc0 [<ffffffff81122b2a>] ? do_filp_open+0x2ca/0xb90 [<ffffffffa04bbfc7>] ? oss_unreserve_pages+0x37/0x80 [osscore] [<ffffffff8112d83a>] ? alloc_fd+0xfa/0x140 [<ffffffff811123fa>] ? do_sys_open+0x6a/0x140 [<ffffffff81012082>] ? system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b Here is the complete log: http://pastebin.com/m75da8267 Please help Regards, Gaurish Sharma

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[arch-general] anyone maintaining a fixed QGtkStyle?
by Arvid Picciani 06 Feb '10

06 Feb '10

Hi, i was wondering if anyone maintained a QGtkStyle for use outside gnome. Would be duplicated work and i guess i'm not the only one who uses gtk styles but not gnome. -- Arvid

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[arch-general] Yafray
by Giovanni Scafora 06 Feb '10

06 Feb '10

Hi all, the last yafray release was the 0.0.9 version in Summer 2006. Notice that these sources aren't under development anymore. I would like replace it with yafaray 0.1.1. What do you think about? -- Arch Linux Developer http://www.archlinux.org http://www.archlinux.it

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[arch-general] [Testing] Kontact 4.3.98-1: No plugins shown
by Erwin Van de Velde 06 Feb '10

06 Feb '10

Hi, Kontact does not show any of its plugins (kmail, korganizer, ...). It starts empty and if started from CLI, it prints: $ kontact kontact(10740)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/tmp/kdecache-evdvelde/ksycoca4" kontact(10740)/kdecore (trader) KServiceTypeTrader::defaultOffers: KServiceTypeTrader: serviceType "Kontact/Plugin" not found kontact(10740)/kutils (KSettings::Dispatcher) KSettings::Dispatcher::registerComponent: "kontact" Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwnerChanged(QString,QString,QString) kontact(10740)/korganizer KPIM::ReminderClient::ReminderClient: ReminderClient::ReminderClient() [evdvelde@sylvesterjr config]$ kontact(10740)/kio (Slave) KIO::Slave::createSlave: createSlave "file" for KUrl("file:///usr/share/apps/kdeui/about/kde_infopage.css") kontact(10740)/kio (KIOConnection) KIO::ConnectionServer::listenForRemote: Listening on "local:/tmp/ksocket-evdvelde/kontactE10740.slave-socket" How can I fix this? Or is this a bug in the package? Thanks in advance, Erwin

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[arch-general] Maybe a bug about diskless installation of Arch
by goodmenzy＠gmail.com 06 Feb '10

06 Feb '10

The shutdown script was written without thinking the diskless machine. It try to bring down the network and to do more works to clean the machine. But in diskless system, if the network is bring down, the rootfs can not be accessed anymore, so the shuting down process will dead .............. I'll fill a bug report on the archlinux.org

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