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Obfuscation of emails
by Polarian 15 Jan '23

15 Jan '23

Hello, This point is highly controversial within the Arch community, I have seen a lot of people argue either side, but I want to share my opinion on this. Personally I think obfuscation of emails is a complete waste of time, and I am going to explain why. So lets take my email as an example, polarian(a)polarian.dev, people often always obfuscate in the same way: <polarian at polarian dot dev> now what stops a bot from substituting "at" with "@" and "dot" with ".", it is not hard to do, and quite frankly it is a pain to deobfuscate peoples emails within PKGBUILD files when you need to email them to report issues, or get into contact. I have read a lot of pages on the ArchWiki and they all promote obfuscation of emails, have seen discussions on discussing the pros and cons, and not saying obfuscation has no downsides, but none of the discussions amounted to anything. Can we please stop advertising obfuscation of emails, it is counter-productive, we have anti-spam measures, and bots can easily bypass the obfuscation unless you make it more sophisticated, but at that point people won't be able to understand the email and you will be uncontactable. All obfuscation does in my experience, is make it 100x harder for people to report issues, its counter productive in a lot of cases but yet Arch community still advertises. It is up to you personally if you want to obfuscate your email address in PKGBUILDs and other files, but PLEASE can we stop advertising it as a perfect solution to spam, because in many cases, it doesn't even protect you from spam, just is a hindrance for people who genuinely want to contact you. Thanks, -- Polarian GPG signature: 0770E5312238C760 Website: https://polarian.dev JID/XMPP: polarian(a)polarian.dev

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Re: ROCm in [community]
by Sefa Eyeoglu 11 Jan '23

11 Jan '23

Hi Torsten, thanks a lot for your work! I am here to ask if it's planned to create a group for these packages. That would make it a lot easier to install all of the (currently available) toolchain at once. Best, Sefa On Fri, 2022-12-23 at 16:20 +0100, Torsten Keßler wrote: > Hi all! > > I'm excited to announce that basic ROCm support was added to > [community-testing] yesterday! > > What is ROCm? > ROCm is AMD's open source framework for GPU programming. It comprises > an > OpenCL implementation, HIP (AMD's CUDA) and OpenMP offloading. > > Which GPUs are supported? > Official support is limited, see [1]. > > Which parts were added to [community-testing]? > The low level components (rocminfo, rocm-smi-lib), the OpenCL runtime > (rocm-opencl-runtime) and the HIP runtime / compiler (hip-runtime- > amd). > > How can I use it? > Install (hip-runtime-amd rocm-smi-lib rocm-opencl-runtime) to use all > currently available packages. First check if the amdgpu kernel module > is > loaded and add your login user to the video and render groups. Run > /opt/rocm/bin/rocminfo to validate that the HSA runtime correctly > detects your hardware. You can also check the output of clinfo for > OpenCL support. > > Use case: blender > First, install hip-runtime-amd and add /opt/rocm/bin to PATH. Open > blender, go to Edit -> Preferences and select "HIP" in "System / > Cycles > Render Devices". Open your favorite scene and select "GPU compute" in > "Render Properties". You can monitor the GPU load with > > watch -n.1 rocm-smi > > if you've installed rocm-smi-lib. > > What's next? > Add the ROCm math libraries (rocblas, rocsparse, rocfft, ..) that are > needed for Machine Learning and many other applications. > > Best! > Torsten > > [1] > https://docs.amd.com/bundle/Hardware_and_Software_Reference_Guide/page/Hard…

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Mailing list to discuss ArchWiki?
by Polarian 08 Jan '23

08 Jan '23

Hello, I have realised a lot of the ArchWiki discussions are very empty, and have not been used for years for some of the pages. At first I thought this was because the pages were just not edited very often, but now I have realised that even the most popular pages do not have many discussions. Is there a mailing list for the ArchWiki, or do ArchWiki memebers use an alternative form of discussion to discuss wiki related subjects? Thank you, Polarian

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Storage size of the ArchWiki
by Polarian 08 Jan '23

08 Jan '23

Hello, This is a bit of a random question, does anyone have an approximation or the actual size of the entire of the ArchWiki. This is not useful in the slightest, but I am genuinely curious to see how huge it would be, probably because of autism and weird obsession with numbers, but it would be cool to know. Thanks, Polarian

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kernel 6.1 : suspend/resume problem - s2idle interference
by SET 07 Jan '23

07 Jan '23

Hi, I am requesting help for a suspend/resume problem on a laptop since kernel 6.1. The laptop randomly goes in s2idle mode instead of deep. Resuming from s2idle is the problem, it would most often result in a black screen, magic keys don't work and there's no choice than a hard reboot. The cycles below are grepped from everything.log (using syslog-ng). Jan 2 09:04:02 asus0 kernel: [ 272.442844] PM: suspend entry (s2idle) Jan 2 09:07:24 asus0 kernel: [ 81.496530] PM: suspend entry (s2idle) Jan 2 09:07:36 asus0 kernel: [ 94.219950] PM: suspend exit Jan 2 09:13:43 asus0 kernel: [ 74.020096] PM: suspend entry (deep) Jan 2 09:13:53 asus0 kernel: [ 78.968818] PM: suspend exit Jan 2 09:27:03 asus0 kernel: [ 831.165661] PM: suspend entry (deep) Jan 2 09:27:12 asus0 kernel: [ 835.967426] PM: suspend exit Jan 2 09:29:54 asus0 kernel: [ 103.750713] PM: suspend entry (deep) Jan 2 09:30:12 asus0 kernel: [ 122.122386] PM: suspend exit Jan 2 09:30:12 asus0 kernel: [ 122.122473] PM: suspend entry (s2idle) Jan 2 09:35:27 asus0 kernel: [ 66.427487] PM: suspend entry (deep) Jan 2 09:35:35 asus0 kernel: [ 71.262239] PM: suspend exit Jan 2 09:49:10 asus0 kernel: [ 101.216846] PM: suspend entry (deep) Jan 2 09:49:32 asus0 kernel: [ 122.833061] PM: suspend exit Jan 2 09:49:32 asus0 kernel: [ 122.833242] PM: suspend entry (s2idle) Jan 2 09:52:30 asus0 kernel: [ 96.227978] PM: suspend entry (deep) Jan 2 09:54:33 asus0 kernel: [ 101.035466] PM: suspend exit Jan 2 10:00:29 asus0 kernel: [ 456.496279] PM: suspend entry (deep) Jan 2 10:00:50 asus0 kernel: [ 476.827893] PM: suspend exit Jan 2 10:00:50 asus0 kernel: [ 476.828015] PM: suspend entry (s2idle) Jan 2 10:06:29 asus0 kernel: [ 149.561486] PM: suspend entry (deep) Jan 2 11:46:21 asus0 kernel: [ 155.932575] PM: suspend exit Using 'mem_sleep_default=deep' in '/etc/default/grub' (and grub-mkconfig afterwards) does not alter this behaviour. After removing the above parameter, i.e., the default, /sys/power/mem_sleep contains 's2idle [deep]'. I grant that 'deep' is the default suspend mode, though it does randomly go in 's2idle' on its own. /sys/power/state contains 'freeze mem disk'. After reverting to kernel 6.0.12-arch1, suspend/resume works normally, as it always did. I'm out of ideas for a fix, and would appreciate any clues. Some hardware specs : AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Raven Ridge [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile Series] (rev c4) Thank you.

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Keyboard layout does not persist in /etc/vconsole.conf
by Björn Försterling 06 Jan '23

06 Jan '23

Hello, After finishing the Arch Linux installation (without desktop environment or X11) I can't make the keyboard layout persistent. (I am using the 01/2023 ISO as installation medium) I have set the keyboard layout to de-latin1 in /etc/vconsole.conf. This is the content of /etc/vconsole.conf: KEYMAP=de-latin1 Usually this works and the keyboard layout is permanent. But somehow systemd does not read it and after every reboot I am back to US layout. I tried to set the keyboard layout through a kernel parameter like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="loglevel=3 quiet vconsole.keymap=de-latin1" But it did not solve the issue. According to pstree systemd should be the init system. Does someone have an idea what could've gone wrong in the installation process? Regards Björn

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Arch Keyring Up To Date but Errors in journal?
by David C. Rankin 06 Jan '23

06 Jan '23

All, I saw a handful of Archlinux gpg errors in the journal and thought my arch keyring must need updating, so I issued the command to update the keyring -- and it was up to date: # pacman -Sy --needed archlinux-keyring :: Synchronizing package databases... core is up to date extra is up to date community is up to date cingg is up to date warning: archlinux-keyring-20221220-1 is up to date -- skipping there is nothing to do Why do I still see key Arch gpg errors in the journal, e.g.: Dec 30 22:47:56 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90563]: gpg: error retrieving 'alucryd(a)archlinux.org' via WKD: Connection timed out Dec 30 22:47:56 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90563]: gpg: error reading key: Connection timed out Dec 30 22:47:56 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Skipping key 42DFAFB7C03B2E4E7BBDBA69930B82BFC2BDA011 with UID muflone(a)vbsimple.net... Dec 30 22:47:56 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Refreshing key 42DFAFB7C03B2E4E7BBDBA69930B82BFC2BDA011 with UID muflone(a)archlinux.org... Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90566]: gpg: error retrieving 'muflone(a)archlinux.org' via WKD: Connection timed out Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90566]: gpg: error reading key: Connection timed out Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Skipping key 42DFAFB7C03B2E4E7BBDBA69930B82BFC2BDA011 with UID muflone(a)muflone.com... Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Skipping key 75BD80E4D834509F6E740257B1B73B02CC52A02A with UID diabonas(a)master-key.archlinux.org... Dec 30 22:48:11 valkyrie archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[90310]: Refreshing key 8A9BC5819C54FEB3DC2A9B48C32217F6F13FF192 with UID xyproto(a)archlinux.org... And the real question -- do I need to fix part of the keyring, or is this just temporary noise? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Pacman in a panel?
by ilpiko2 06 Jan '23

06 Jan '23

Hi, in a video i watched it's possible allocate pacman (from terminal) in panel recallable with a click. This in Wayland. It's possible in Xfce? Ty Marco

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Arch device not showing up when attempting to install
by Polarian 04 Jan '23

04 Jan '23

Hello, So my friend is trying to install Arch Linux, and he has ran into an issue I can not find a solution to, the Arch Threads on this issue has the typical "Fixed" one word solution, which doesn't ever explain HOW they fixed it. Does anyone know what causes this following error: /dev/disk/by-label/ARCH_202212 device did not show up after 30 seconds. This is after booting to the USB stick and then the grub bootloader, but when attempting to boot to the Arch Installation media the error above occurs. I have tried it with the latest archiso 202301 and it had the same issue, so that is why I tried to use the last version (which I used to install Arch Linux on one of my personal devices, thus I know the iso works) but yet the same issue still occurs. I got a feeling its the flashing tool which is the issue, I always use dd on linux, but my friend uses windows and he has tried both rufus and balena etcher, both of which have the same exact issue. He has cleaned the USB stick using diskpart (wipe partitions) to ensure that the USB is completely clean before flashing to see if that was an issue, same issue still occurs. If anyone knows what could be causing this, it would be very helpful :) Polarian

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Re: python-packaging 22.0 removed from [testing]
by Genes Lists 03 Jan '23

03 Jan '23

On 1/3/23 14:51, Felix Yan wrote: > Hi all, > > python-packaging 22.0 was removed from [testing] due to incompatibility > with setuptools [1]. > > [1] https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/discussions/3722 > Felix - Thanks for letting us know and reverting. I did see problems ( version rather than legacy_version as per above issue) - but perhaps same underlying problem ) But you had reverted and fixed it so fast I didn't pursue. Thank you gene This is the last couple lines I see of first exception: ... import setuptools File "/usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/setuptools/__init__.py", line 36, in <module> __version__ = setuptools.version.__version__ AttributeError: partially initialized module 'setuptools' has no attribute 'version' (most likely due to a circular import)

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