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[arch-general] sound problem with chromium
by Pascal 11 May '22

11 May '22

hi, I have an ArchLinux installed on a usb disk (eg. "mobile"). ~ # uname -r 5.15.37-1-lts ~ # pacman -Q | egrep 'alsa|chromium|firefox|mplayer' alsa-lib 1.2.6.1-1 alsa-topology-conf 1.2.5.1-1 alsa-ucm-conf 1.2.6.3-1 alsa-utils 1.2.6-1 chromium 101.0.4951.54-1 firefox 100.0-1 mplayer 38359-1 when it runs on my Dell Latitude E5250, Chromium works without any difficulty to play a YouTube video for example : the sound is ok (same for Firefox or Mplayer). on the other hand, when it runs on my Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon, Chromium has problems with the sound (which is not the case for Firefox or Mplayer which both produce sound). it happens from time to time in this (hardware) environment that Chromium produces sound and the next moment (simple stop/restart of the browser) it fails (without anything being done in between) ! another surprising thing is that if I access a video (zunRcH4nUPI) this way "chromium https://www.youtube.com/" (and then click on the desired video) I often don't get any sound while if I access it this way "chromium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zunRcH4nUPI" the sound works ! I spent a lot of time trying to understand the problem and looking for a solution/track on the internet but, having found nothing, I throw a bottle in the water... regards, lacsaP.

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[arch-general] pacsave for nouveau blacklist in nvidia-utils
by The Puzzlemaker 08 May '22

08 May '22

I've found that when I need to keep nvidia-utils installed whilst still using nouveau (even while using the suggested method in https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/nouveau#Keep_NVIDIA_driver_installed) it gets overridden upon update of nvidia-utils. I believe the way to solve this would be to add a backup section in the PKGBUILD (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PKGBUILD#backup)? But I'm not entirely sure. This would be helpful, in my opinion, though, as it would prevent the blacklist from getting invisibly uncommented, and causing problems which may be hard to debug.

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[arch-general] Status of llvm / clang
by Spencer Collyer 08 May '22

08 May '22

Hope this is the right mailing list to send this too. If not, apologies and please direct me to the right one. I'm wondering when the llvm and clang packages are going to be updated. Version 14 of both have been out since late March but doing a package search for them still shows version 13. I did see a thread that said compilers sometimes take longer to be updated because they need testing to make sure they don't break any existing packages that use them, but it also said they normally got put into Testing to do that and I don't see llvm or clang in the Testing area. Not really a biggie, but there are some things in Clang14 that I'd like to start using and I'd prefer to use official Arch packages than building my own version. Thanks for your attention, Regards, Spencer S

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Re: [arch-general] Why is clock_gettime called when the mouse moves?
by Ralph Corderoy 07 May '22

07 May '22

Hi Piscium, Second attempt, the first went to the old list address. > What I posted before was just a short snippet. In > the link below there is a trace for leafpad, available for 7 days. > https://we.tl/t-BAbO60lnGN > > > I suggest using the simplest X client you can which shows the issue, > > e.g. xev(1). ... > Good suggestion. I tried xev and I cannot reproduce the issue. The > simplest app that I tried that shows the issue is leafpad. > > > The second, if you read the two other emails in the thread, fixes the > > problem by changing the kernel's clock source which may differ between > > your two test machines? > > I am not sure what you are referring to, maybe a link for the second > page is missing? Sorry. https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1823248.h… > There are tons of GUI apps. I have tested just a handful of them. > Have the clock_gettime issue: leafpad, mousepad, emacs, audacious, konsole. > Don't have the issue: xev, xterm. > > I tried to figure out if there is a common library used by all apps > that have the problem but so far have not found it. A way to figure > this out might be using gdb and putting a breakpoint on clock_gettime, > but i am reluctant to do this as it would take a lot of time It may be perf_events would help you analyse the frequency of difference clock_gettime() callers, say by maintaining frequency counts of the previous three functions in the call stack, but I don't know enough to suggest how. https://www.brendangregg.com/perf.html -- Cheers, Ralph.

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[arch-general] sequoia-octopus-librnp 1.3.0-1 not working with new thunderbir 91.8.1-1
by Javier 06 May '22

06 May '22

Today's thunderbird upgrade broke sequoia-octopus-librnp (universe), it might be octopus just requires a new build with up to date sys libraries, or that a new octopus librnp version is required. For now, keeping thunderbird on 91.8.1-1, not allowing it to upgrade is a workaround. -- Javier

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[arch-general] Why is clock_gettime called when the mouse moves?
by Piscium 05 May '22

05 May '22

I don't know what is the best place to ask the following question, if here, in the Arch forums (which ?) or in the X.org mailing list. I will ask here first. I am open to suggestions. I have two Arch desktops. Desktop #1: MSI motherboard, Nvidia graphics with proprietary driver, Xfce on top of openbox. Desktop #2: Dell, Intel graphics, Xfce on top of openbox. If I run strace <GUI app> where <GUI app> could be for example Mousepad or Emacs, and move the mouse I get lots of stuff in the trace in both desktops. In desktop #1 however most of trace consists of calls to clock_gettime. This seems weird to me. In the excerpt below which shows both seconds and nano seconds, in the same second there are lots of messages. Why? As far as I know there is nothing wrong with the clock, and there is no special X configuration, so why does one desktop shows calls to clock_gettime and the other not? Any ideas? clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338313354}) = 0 poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN}], 3, 0) = 0 (Timeout) clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338370693}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338397792}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338425239}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338452337}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338479505}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338506324}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338532794}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338559683}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338586432}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338617162}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338651035}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338686654}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338721993}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338762990}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338799447}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338836812}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338872989}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338909307}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338942411}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=338971326}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339001287}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339030900}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339061700}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339090335}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339122531}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339152283}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339181826}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339212696}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339243915}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339273527}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339305864}) = 0 poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=9, events=POLLIN}], 3, 0) = 0 (Timeout) clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339372701}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339404270}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339436117}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339467196}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339498276}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339530402}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339562878}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339604015}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339639424}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339670364}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339701722}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339732871}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339764649}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339803620}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339835398}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339866337}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339897975}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339929683}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {tv_sec=36619, tv_nsec=339959715}) = 0

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[arch-general] Package ld-lsb
by Ralf Mardorf 04 May '22

04 May '22

Hi, what is the purpose of the package ld-lsb or else the reason for "Faking a Linux Standard Base runtime"? "Required By (0)" - https://archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/ld-lsb/ $ pacman -Ql ld-lsb ld-lsb /usr/ ld-lsb /usr/lib/ ld-lsb /usr/lib/ld-lsb-x86-64.so.2 ld-lsb /usr/lib/ld-lsb-x86-64.so.3 ld-lsb /usr/lib/ld-lsb.so.2 ld-lsb /usr/lib/ld-lsb.so.3 $ /bin/ls -l /usr/lib/ld-lsb* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 May 13 2021 /usr/lib/ld-lsb-x86-64.so.2 -> ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 May 13 2021 /usr/lib/ld-lsb-x86-64.so.3 -> ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 May 13 2021 /usr/lib/ld-lsb.so.2 -> ld-linux.so.2 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 May 13 2021 /usr/lib/ld-lsb.so.3 -> ld-linux.so.2 "The standard stopped being updated in 2015 and current Linux distributions do not adhere to or offer it" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Standard_Base Let alone that it always has been a standard in name only. Regards, Ralf

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[arch-general] nvidia-utils=510.68.02
by 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE＠potatochowder.com 02 May '22

02 May '22

Greetings, I got an error message from pacman this morning: -> Could not find all required packages: nvidia-utils=510.68.02 (Wanted by: nvidia-lts) According to <https://archlinux.org/packages/?sort=&q=nvidia-utils>, that version of nvidia-utils is still in Testing. I can't tell whether nvidia-lts=510.68.02 or nvidia-utils=510.68.02 is in the wrong place, but they're a pair, right? Can someone look into this? Thanks, Dan -- I can eat glass, it does not hurt me. Dan Sommers, http://www.tombstonezero.net/dan

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[arch-general] not able to execute commands on tty
by Frank 26 Apr '22

26 Apr '22

Hi, I'm having an issue with tty. When loogin on I get the following error messages: -bash: /etc/profile: Permission denied -bash: PATH: Command not found ... This is my bashrc: # # ~/.bashrc # # If not running interactively, don't do anything [[ $- != *i* ]] && return #fix VTE issue for tilix if [ $TILIX_ID ] || [ $VTE_VERSION ]; then source /etc/profile.d/vte.sh fi alias ls='ls --color=auto' alias ll='ls -l' alias la='ls -a' alias diff='diff --color=auto' alias grep='grep --color=auto' alias mpv='mpv --vo=gpu' #command not found #source /usr/share/doc/find-the-command/ftc.bash powerline-daemon -q POWERLINE_BASH_CONTINUATION=1 POWERLINE_BASH_SELECT=1 . /usr/share/powerline/bindings/bash/powerline.sh and here's my .profile: #set vim as default editor export EDITOR=vim #prevent logging identical commands and commands starting with a space export HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth #append to history on exit shopt -s histappend #store multiline commands in one entry shopt -s cmdhist #line wrap on windowresize shopt -s checkwinsize ##tell apps to use Wayland #Firefox export MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1 #prevent accessibility tools export NO_AT_BRIDGE=1 #add Perl and Perl modules to file path export PATH="$(PATH):/usr/bin/core_perl/" export PATH="$(PATH):/usr/bin/vendor_perl/" export PATH="$(PATH):/usr/bin/site_perl/" [[ -f ~/.bashrc ]] && . ~/.bashrc I'm not able to execute any commands, getting the command not found, and have no idea what wnet wrong here. All is fine when on wayland using a treminal emulator. THX Frank

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[arch-general] any IEEE 802.11ax wifi 6 USB devices supported by gnu+linux (even external dkms)?
by Javier 15 Apr '22

15 Apr '22

I’m looking for upgrading to wifi 6 (802.11ax), but I’m not able to find gnu+linux supported usb devices. WPA3 seems a winner, and the fact devices don’t interfere with each others (at least not as much as wifi 5 and lesser), plus better signal spectrum, and perhaps getting where it was harder before, then I’m willing to upgrade, however, it seems only ms-windows and maybe some mac supported, usb devices can be found. Could it be it’ll take even further to get them into gnu+linux? Thanks ! -- Javier

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