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Mailing list quirks
by Ralf Mardorf 20 Sep '22

20 Sep '22

Dear mailing list admin, while I still received emails from the mailing list, I couldn't log in. After (re-)subscribing I can log in again. Please add "[arch-general] " to the subject. Some mailing lists don't use such an identifier in the subject, but a lot of mailing lists for good reasons do. It's apparently possible to prepend the list name and to keep the DKIM signature intact or they break it, but it doesn't matter. I don't know. Why is this identifier useful? For example, if you have got a virtual search folder with a filter, that searches the email bodies for "x11" in folders for different mailing lists, it can be very helpful, if the subject lines mention "[arch- general] ", "[Alsa-user] ", "[Evolution] ", "[lubuntu-users] " etc. to get a first overview. For several reasons such an identifier can be useful. For each of those reasons somebody probably has got an objection, how to do things different, so that the identifier is unneeded. Yes, it's not needed, but it's useful/helpful for some people, in some cases, while there's unlikely a good reason to be annoyed by "[arch-general] ". Regards, Ralf

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Re: [arch-announce] Arch Linux mailing list changes
by Genes Lists 18 Sep '22

18 Sep '22

Mail List Admins: Following up to my prev post (arch-general) about DMARC rejections from arch-general from domain zoho.com ( I checked it too has 'p=reject') My own messages to the list are also being rejected by our border mailer with same dmarc rejection - so indeed, I suspect something is not quite right with the list configs. Can you all please check that incoming mail to lists from domains with 'p=reject' DMARC policy work ok. Seems not to be working from what I see. thanks.

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All certificates missing after update
by James Crake-Merani 18 Sep '22

18 Sep '22

Hello, After my last update, I noticed a strange issue: I could not do anything that required HTTPS. I could not use curl, update the system etc. I eventually traced the problem back to ca-certificates. I noticed that /etc/ca-certificates/extracted/tls-ca-bundle.pem , which although still existed on the system, was just a completely empty file while on my laptop it was filled with certificates. What I had to do was copy over the missing certificates from my laptop, and then it was working. But what I noticed is that previously I had downgraded some ca-certificates packages (specifically the utils, and mozilla one I think),and when I upgraded the system the certificates were all once again missing, and I had to replace them for a second time. I am not educated at all on the ca-certificates package. I assume it has something to do with SSL but I know little beyond that. I therefore can't deduce whether this issue is the fault of a bug, or if I have done something wrong. I'd like to know if anyone has experienced this problem as well, or if someone has knowledge that might be of use. Thanks. James Crake-Merani

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[arch-general] egrep error after update
by pete 16 Sep '22

16 Sep '22

Hi folks I did my normal nightly update last night no issues but now every time i open an terminal i get the following egrep: warning: egrep is obsolescent; using grep -E system as follows Operating System: Arch Linux KDE Plasma Version: 5.25.5 KDE Frameworks Version: 5.97.0 Qt Version: 5.15.6 Kernel Version: 5.19.7-arch1-1 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: X11 Processors: 8 × AMD FX-8370E Eight-Core Processor Memory: 15.6 GiB of RAM Graphics Processor: AMD HAWAII Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. Thanks Pete .

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[arch-general] dev-public: Future build infrastructure for Arch Linux
by David C. Rankin 05 Sep '22

05 Sep '22

What does: Future build infrastructure for Arch Linux "We decided on supporting the x86_64-v3 microarchitecture" Does that mean Arch will break on anything older than Haswell for Intel will no longer be supported on Arch? Or am I missing something? SUSE going to ALP is doing the v3 baseline for it's "containerized" Micro Leap, but what does this mean for Arch. With SUSE, it means just that, if you have an i7 Sandy Lake or older -- your just not invited to the party. That seems completely counter to what Arch should do for a main distro. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[arch-general] Openbox screen locker
by paulf＠quillandmouse.com 04 Sep '22

04 Sep '22

Folks: Was running i3wm, just installed Openbox. As with i3, after a certain period of time, the screen goes black. So far so good. However, when I move the mouse or hit a key, now I get some sort of xfce screen locker. It has a banner at the top with my system name, the date, and a lock symbol in the far right corner. In the center middle is XFCE's mouse icon. And it insists I enter my password. I don't like or want this program running, but I don't know what's spawning it. There is nothing which calls an XFCE program in my Openbox config files, or the global ones in /etc. According to htop, this program is apparently a child of systemd --user. This isn't helpful. Can anyone provide assistance in finding and fixing what's calling this program? Paul -- Paul M. Foster Personal Blog: http://noferblatz.com Company Site: http://quillandmouse.com Software Projects: https://gitlab.com/paulmfoster

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[arch-general] mkpkg : A new tool to auto rebuild packages when makedepends have updated
by Genes Lists 03 Sep '22

03 Sep '22

When building packages (makepkg + PKGBUILD), It would be useful if there was a way to easily rebuild the package whenever a make dependency is updated. One can do this manually of course, by bumping the pkgrel and rebuilding. To make it easier I built a tool to do that for me. For example: When a tool chain used to build a package is updated, it's good practice to rebuild those which use that tool chain. For example, when gcc, cargo, binutils et al are updated packages using those tools should also be updated. While static linked libraries surely don't demand a rebuild to function, because the prior, older library is part of the binary itself, it's still a good idea to rebuild it. This will pick up fixes, including security related ones, as well as improvements. Of course, it's always sensible to confirm that the application properly builds and works with the newer tool or library. I've made the code available should it be useful to others. https://github.com/gene-git/Arch-mkpkg best gene

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[arch-general] QEMU Networking
by 2QdxY4RzWzUUiLuE＠potatochowder.com 03 Sep '22

03 Sep '22

Greetings, I think my question is: now that I have a new laptop and a slightly different networking setup, how do I get QEMU to work with systemd-resolved, but if I had all the answers, then I wouldn't be asking for help. :-) My symtoms are that QEMU guests (various live Linux CDs) can ping IP addresses, but not resolve names: $ ping -c1 archlinux.org ping: archlinux.org: Name or service not known $ resolvectl query archlinux.org archlinux.org: resolve call failed: Lookup failed due to system error: Network is unreachable $ ping -c1 95.217.163.246 PING 95.217.163.246 (95.217.163.246) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 95.217.163.246: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=414 ms [statistics elided to conserve bandwidth] On my old laptop, I used NetworkManager resolvconf, but on the new one, I'm using iwctl/iwd and systemd-resolved, so I'm assuming that that's the culprit. In any case, I'm using the following command to start QEMU (various live CDs boot and run with various options, but they all exhibit the same networking symptoms; vm.qcow2 is newly created): qemu-system-x86_64 -m 8G -enable-kvm -drive file=vm.qcow2 -cdrom /path/to/iso-image I have no access to a wired network. I do have access to two WiFi networks. One is from my cell phone provider. The other goes through a captive portal over which I have no control. I get the same symptoms in my guests either way. When using the network connection from my cell phone provider (some output removed to remove obviously irrelevant data and/or formatting meant for humans): $ ping -c1 archlinux.org PING archlinux.org (95.217.163.246) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from archlinux.org (95.217.163.246): icmp_seq=1 ttl=41 time=210 ms $ pacman -Q qemu qemu-desktop 7.0.0-1 $ ip a 4: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether b0:3c:dc:82:f1:ea brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.0.131/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global noprefixroute wlan0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 fe80::b23c:dcff:fe82:f1ea/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever $ resolvectl Global Protocols: +LLMNR +mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported resolv.conf mode: foreign Link 4 (wlan0) Current Scopes: DNS LLMNR/IPv4 LLMNR/IPv6 Protocols: +DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported Current DNS Server: 208.67.222.222 DNS Servers: 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220 $ iwctl device list Name Address Powered Adapter Mode wlan0 b0:3c:dc:82:f1:ea on phy0 station $ iwctl adapter list Name Powered Vendor Model phy0 on Intel Corporation Alder Lake-P PCH CNVi WiFi [Then I found <https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=253005>.] $ drill archlinux.org Error: error sending query: No (valid) nameservers defined in the resolver $ cat /etc/resolv.conf # Resolver configuration file. # See resolv.conf(5) for details. What am I missing? Do I care that drill doesn't work on my host? Thanks, Dan -- I can eat glass, it does not hurt me. Dan Sommers, http://www.tombstonezero.net/dan

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[arch-general] ruby 3.0.4-10 issue
by Genes Lists 31 Aug '22

31 Aug '22

FYI - Causes this at end of every call ti pacman -Syu therafter: (6/8) Checking which packages need to be rebuilt <internal:/usr/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:85:in `require': cannot load such file -- timeout (LoadError) from <internal:/usr/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb>:85:in `require' from /usr/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/command_manager.rb:107:in `initialize' from /usr/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/command_manager.rb:85:in `new' from /usr/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/command_manager.rb:85:in `instance' from /usr/lib/ruby/3.0.0/rubygems/gem_runner.rb:38:in `run' from /usr/bin/gem:13:in `<main>'

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[arch-general] Python nightmare
by admin＠linuxsrv.org 20 Aug '22

20 Aug '22

Hi guys, Recently tried to install Spyder IDE but i got a ton of errors, so after trying different approaches I found that probably doing it through Anaconda would be better. And try first with AUR, but never could, so I download Anacondas installer and after a huge amount of time it got installed. So there it was Anaconda + Spyder etc.... however I started to get a ton of Python related warnings and error every time I updated (pacman -Syu), so i ended up removing Anconda and everything else. But now i still getting errors like... advertencia: no se pudo obtener información del archivo usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/btrfsutil.cpython-310-x86_64-linux-gnu.so advertencia: no se pudo obtener información del archivo usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/_distutils_hack/__pycache__/override.cpython-310.pyc advertencia: no se pudo obtener información del archivo usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/jaraco.text-3.8.1.dist-info/ for instance this packages are indeed installed, but I keep gettin the warning, and like that I get for a ton of files ls -l /usr/lib/python3.10/site-packages/jaraco.text-3.9.0.dist-info/ total 20 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1050 ago 15 10:38 LICENSE -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3916 ago 15 10:38 METADATA -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1102 ago 15 10:38 RECORD -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7 ago 15 10:38 top_level.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 92 ago 15 10:38 WHEEL And even worse, whenever i tried to run certain apps (like gnome-tweaks, bpython, ipyhton) now i get errors when they work before without a problem.. this is the outrput. $ gnome-tweaks Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/gnome-tweaks", line 13, in <module> import gi ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'gi' $ ipython Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/ipython", line 5, in <module> from IPython import start_ipython File "/home/acgx/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/IPython/__init__.py", line 55, in <module> from .core.application import Application File "/home/acgx/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/IPython/core/application.py", line 23, in <module> from traitlets.config.application import Application, catch_config_error ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'traitlets' $ bpython Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/bpython", line 33, in <module> sys.exit(load_entry_point('bpython==0.22.1', 'console_scripts', 'bpython')()) File "/usr/bin/bpython", line 22, in importlib_load_entry_point for entry_point in distribution(dist_name).entry_points File "/usr/lib/python3.10/importlib/metadata/__init__.py", line 957, in distribution return Distribution.from_name(distribution_name) File "/usr/lib/python3.10/importlib/metadata/__init__.py", line 548, in from_name raise PackageNotFoundError(name) importlib.metadata.PackageNotFoundError: No package metadata was found for bpython Checking out my python binaries i get.. $ ls -l /usr/bin/python* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 ago 3 12:39 /usr/bin/python -> python3 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 oct 10 2021 /usr/bin/python2 -> python2.7 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14168 oct 10 2021 /usr/bin/python2.7 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1681 oct 10 2021 /usr/bin/python2.7-config lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 oct 10 2021 /usr/bin/python2-config -> python2.7-config -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 94 dic 13 2021 /usr/bin/python2-pyuic4 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 ago 3 12:39 /usr/bin/python3 -> python3.10 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14280 ago 3 12:39 /usr/bin/python3.10 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3299 ago 3 12:39 /usr/bin/python3.10-config lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 ago 3 12:39 /usr/bin/python3-config -> python3.10-config lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 ago 3 12:39 /usr/bin/python-config -> python3-config So, does anybody has seen or been in something like this? any hints how can I "purge" "remove" or deinstall properly the buggy libraries and reinstall everything properly? Hope someone have a good pointer. Thanks in advance. Regards Adriel CG

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