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[arch-general] package name foo vs libfoo (eg. clutter vs libclutter)
by Andre "Osku" Schmidt 04 Aug '10

04 Aug '10

Hello, this may be a minor issue, but it's bugging me so much that i had to write it here. and please link me to any previous discussion if this was asked before, i was kinda lazy to really search and http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Packaging_Standards didn't mention anything about it. is there any rule on how to name packages ? lets take clutter as an example. it's named "clutter" everywhere in upstream, git, tarball, docs etc. but, it only builds libraries, and names those libclutter* (and really is only usable as library) so why are these (or only this?) packages named foo and not libfoo ? cheers .andre ps. im here to fix, not flame :)

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[arch-general] Interesting tidbit from other distros latest releases - kde3 is still there and maintained.
by David C. Rankin 04 Aug '10

04 Aug '10

Guys, This is just a point of interest more than anything else. Many of you know I came to Arch from suse and one of the reasons was suse announced plan to eliminate kde3 in its 11.2 release in early 2009. Arch had chakra and it worked great so Arch was a great logical choice. It seems that some desktops can't be replaced or removed that easily. Going against a solid year of policy to the contrary, suse's 7/15/10 new release (11.3) included a kde3 repository that will be available and maintained at least until 11.3 EOL. (usually 18 months) The only discussion on the suse list was the fact that the cost of offering kde3 is basically zero and other than a few updated libs (poppler-qt3, libpng, libjpeg), etc.., kde3 is static requiring nothing more than a few hundred meg of storage at this point. More resources are spent building and offering LXDE, openbox, etc. than kde3 required so it made sense to continue the desktop as an offering. What's that got to do with Arch? If Novell has come to the conclusion that it makes business sense to continue kde3 for the time being, then it may at least be something the Arch devs want to talk about and at least try to figure out the "why?" part of Novell's continuation of kde3 in case there is anything that Arch wants to do to maintain its offerings comparable with distro X, Y or Z. I have no information there. Currently kdemod3 is still in really good shape for Arch, but with the loss of Jan, I don't know what that means for the continuation of its hosting on the charkra servers. That might at least be worth knowing. None of this needs any type of reply, but with kde4 still in a massive state of flux (i.e. you can't even get to your kabc categories at present), at least having Arch know what it's thoughts or wishes are in this area before be faced with any changes, may just help the distro be ready for what ever comes along. Food for thought for the powers that be -- all others, just hit 'del'. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] [signoff] kernel26-lts 2.6.32.17-1
by Andreas Radke 04 Aug '10

04 Aug '10

Am Mon, 2 Aug 2010 21:31:09 +0200 schrieb Andreas Radke <a.radke(a)arcor.de>: > Upstream update, please signoff. > > http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.32.17 > > -Andy > Bump. It's a security related update. -Andy

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[arch-general] Fwd: *** Dark Ones August Party ***
by Patrick Burroughs 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Let me know if any of you are already getting this, and I'll take you off the forward. ~celti ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marg Grady <marg1066(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 08:55 Subject: *** Dark Ones August Party *** To: "J.L. Ali" <wolfglen(a)cox.net> THE DARK ONES PRESENT: AUGUST PARTY – “ARABIAN NIGHTS” Join the Dark Ones for our August Party extravaganza... Escape to where East meets West... Where fantasy comes alive... and where you can enjoy the poolside cool on another hot August night... Caravans cross the desert, majestic camels transport Sultans and Rogues alike, all converge on the oasis of Shadowhaven ... What draws them all here, this night of nights? Is it the promise of fine food and drink? Or the manipulations of evil Djinn from the depths of Hell? Only one way to find out... hop on your magic carpet, camel or caravan and come to the Dark Ones "Arabian Nights" Party. Also, The DarkCon Promotions Caravan will be there -- don't miss out on the special membership rates at the Bazaar in the DarkCon Pavilion! A limited number of VIP Memberships are now available for sale (deposits accepted) while they last... Site: "Oasis Shadowhaven" -- 8726 N 48th Ave, Glendale, AZ 85302 Date: Saturday, 08/28/10 Site opens: 7 pm Party Starts: 8 pm Anthem: Midnight Bar Closes: 2 am Site Closes: 3 am Costume Theme Ideas: Harem Dancer, Snake Charmer, Sultan/Sheik, Djinn/Devil from Hell, Medieval Garb. **NEW** -- Donations for the party can now be made ONLINE! Go to http://www.darkones.org/Resources/MARKETPLACE/tabid/96/Default.aspx -- CHOOSE “August Party – Arabian Nights Event” Each "registration" is a $12 donation to the event. Buy as many as you want :) (There is no cost to attend the party, but your donations make it all possible.) There will be NO Kids Keep, so children should be sent elsewhere or risk being sold into slavery. Please do nothing to attract the local watch, as no one wants to be caned. We will of course need help with Set Up / Break Down and money to pay for the planned debauchery... please contact Ozzy to offer donations of Time or Money at wolfglen(a)cox.net .... Thank you, and see you at the Party, with bells on! :)

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[arch-general] Image my installed Arch into a USB pendrive
by Martín Cigorraga 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Hi, is possible to image my current Arch system into a USB pendrive and use it from there? Many thanks! Martín

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[arch-general] Unload module after printer startup
by Mario Daniel Carugno 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Hi list I've a hp 1020 printer. In order to work, the module usblp must not be loaded. So, i remove that from DAEMONS section at /etc/rc.conf When i boot Arch, that works fine. The module is not loaded, and the printer works. But when i turn off, and then turn on the printer, the usblp module is loaded, and the printer doesn't print. How can i prevent this loading ? I guess it's a udev rule, but i don't know how to configure it. Please, anybody can give a hand on this ? Thanks !

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[arch-general] Unificate login credentials in Arch's website
by Martín Cigorraga 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

I don't know if this was addressed before, I'm sorry to say this and you'll probably hate me but it's something that get my attention: the authentication in Arch's website is, at least, very unefficient. At worst, it's directly against Arch's Way, I think (I'm not the best guy to say this, just giving my first steps in Arch). Why should someone need to register at least three times, one for the forums, one for the wiki and one for the AUR? Shoudn't be sufficient with just one-time login/registration? And what about editing own nick or password? You know, at any time you may want to uniform all your passwords to a master one or just change it from the default you get when registered. I would like to know if there's any specific reason to have three separate accounts for the same website sections. Regards, Martín

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[arch-general] No updates in a while - Is this the 'untiered mirror' thing?
by David C. Rankin 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

Guys, It is rare I go a week without some type of update. My last update was: [2010-07-25 04:49] upgraded wavegain (1.2.8-1 -> 1.2.8-2) Looking at archdev-public, there is a 7/24 "no more untiered mirrors" post from Roman about the need to shut down mirrors. Is this what is behind no more updates for me? If so, what do I need to change in my mirror list, pacman.conf, etc. to make sure I can get updates again? If it is just because Arch is perfect and there will no longer be a need for any updates -- I'm good with that too. Just let me know :p -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] howto fix log errors: avahi-daemon[1954]: Invalid query packet.
by David C. Rankin 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Guys, My logs have been filling up with avahi-daemon messages. The avahi errors always appear in groups of 3: Aug 2 16:05:03 nirvana avahi-daemon[1954]: Invalid query packet. Aug 2 16:05:03 nirvana avahi-daemon[1954]: Invalid query packet. Aug 2 16:05:03 nirvana avahi-daemon[1954]: Invalid query packet. Anybody know what we need to do to fix the query packet error? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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[arch-general] Better NILFS2 Support
by Alex Matviychuk 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

I just spent some time setting up my new laptop with an SSD to use NILFS2 as its root filesystem and I'm very pleased with the performance. In an effort to get better support for NILFS2 in arch I've added a request to move nilfs-utils to the base group and submitted a patch to initscripts to bring up the nlfs_cleanerd daemon if root is formatted as NILFS2. If NILFS2 is used on other partitions the mount command brings up the daemon on it's own. These two bugs should make it easier to add NILFS2 support to the Arch Installation Framework. Related bugs here, patch comments welcome: http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/20260 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/20261 Cheers, alexmat

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